Netanyahu's Big Tuesday

[Preacher]

I SWORE we lived in America...oh damn that's right we do! SO how about you israel loving traitorous scum wake up and realize we don't live in Israel and owe them NOTHING and they don't need our permission to attack anyone...so Netanyahu my war criminal pal...from the american people who want NOTHING to do with your war with Iran. GO FUCK YOURSELF. Oh and hey bring a few more planes and take these israel firster scum back to Israel with you.

Hey odium, we get it already, you hate Jews!

What you "get" is you have no reply to the truth and just throw the same ole bullshit out there. I do hate jews. I love my country but hate what the government running it has made it into. What you don't realize is your israel firsters are traitors to this country. If you want to attack Iran so badly move to Israel and start pushing the Israeli government to attack them. Iran is NO THREAT to the US and if recent history is any clue we both can associate peacefully together and talk like civilized countries are supposed to do. Take your war monger hate filled hearts back to Israel and push them towards war. WE DON'T WANT IT!

Would you be so brave and declare in similar fashion:

I hate blacks.
I hate homos.
I hate Indians.
I hate Muslims.
I hate Cripples.
Probably not, because the backlash would be severe.

But have at it and declare in the same brave fashion as you declared that you hate Jews how you feel:

I hate white people.
I hate Christians.
I hate the bastards who think that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Rest assured on the last three you will get not only a free pass but an accolade from the so-called neutral media.

Yes,Yes,Yes,No,No although depending on if they were born "cripple" or not Eugenics should come into play and they be sterilized.I hate christians yep.

As a typical liberal/Democrat, you were unable or perhaps unwilling complete a debate and to address my question how you feel about white people and Christians. Or the bastards who think that marriage is between a man and a woman.

So, regarding cripples. Would you eliminate Stephen Hawking?
Would you terminate all those who question - note NOT DENY just question - the validity of man made climate change?
Would you exterminate all those who refuse to believe that the best thing ever happen to America was the election of Obama?
Would you refuse to send children with high potential to private schools where they COULD develop and realize that potential?
Would you deny a person the right to refuse a person to pay dues to belong to an organization that he has no desire to belong to?
Would you refuse to take the day off at Christmas, because your morality would dictate that the birth of the most influential person in history offends you?
Would you approve unconditional government-approved extermination of all fetuses that don't register "normal"?
And if that is your criterion how do you justify your own existence?

Odium, you had your podium. Fade into unknowdium.

Was he born that way or did it happen afterwords? He is a brilliant mind I know that.
Nope
Nope
Nope
Depends
Nope I enjoy christmas as well. We call it Yule
Yes. Eugenics creates a healthy populace and superior race
I am a brilliant person. I don't need to justify anything.

 

[Sunni Man]

Have you seen the Israeli movie (English subtitles), Ushpizin? It's about this old Israeli gangster-turned-Rabbi, who's trying to celebrate Sukkot but the only guests he's attracting are other gangsters from his sordid past. It's pretty funny.

Thanks for the heads up Tom.

I just watched the movie on Youtube. .....

 

[The Irish Ram]

Obama has people in Israel walking the streets with pamphlets that say, "Anybody but BiBi" regarding the upcoming election. And he's lying. He has indeed met with other foreign candidates prior to their elections in case you believe that garbage excuse. He's already involved in Israel's election. He's campaigning for one of the candidates.
He has completely and as a monarch, reversed our allies to join forces with terrorists. We have always backed Israel. Now he has turned America's back on them and instead has chosen to back Hamas, a terrorist group, and insists Israel give them their Capitol. That is tantamount to us giving half of Washington D. C. to ISIS. And now, unstable maniacal Iran?

Ask yourself what business we had overthrowing our Egyptian ally in favor of the terrorist group, The Muslim Brotherhood.
And he has chosen Iran over our ally. The writing is on the wall.

Listen to what Netanyahu says. He lives in that war zone. He understands the consequences of a clueless President empowering terrorists.

So does this former head of Mossad and various other warriors.Dagan’s intervention follows that of fellow former Mossad head Shabtai Shavit and the former head of the elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit who are among scores of former commanders involved in a video published on Facebook calling for Israel to replace Netanyahu.
Former Mossad head urges Israeli voters to oust Binyamin Netanyahu


Meir Dagan says prime minister’s policies are ‘destructive to the future and security of Israel’



Binyamin Netanyahu has said he believes that his speech is necessary to strengthen opposition to a potential nuclear deal with Iran being negotiated by the US and key allies. Photograph: Abir Sultan/AP
Peter Beaumont in Jerusalem

Friday 27 February 2015 19.09 GMTLast modified on Saturday 28 February 201500.07 GMT

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A former head of Israel’s foreign intelligence service Mossad is urging voters to oust Binyamin Netanyahu in the next general election, accusing the prime minister of endangering the country’s security with his stance on the Iranian nuclear programme.

Meir Dagan, a vocal critic of Netanyahu’s Iran policy since stepping down as Mossad chief four years ago, is to be a keynote speaker at a rally in Tel Aviv next weekend, calling on the public to turf the prime minister out of office on 17 March.

Netanyahu was due to fly to Washington on Friday.

In a trenchant critique of Netanyahu’s leadership, delivered in a long interview in Israel’s biggest-selling newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, Dagan said the prime minister’s policies were “destructive to the future and security of Israel”.

Netanyahu’s planned speech has brought the already uncomfortable state of relations with the Obama administration to a new low amid suspicion that the speech – at the invitation of Republican house speaker John Boehner – was designed to enhance the Israeli prime minister’s electoral prospects.

Netanyahu has said he believes that his speech is necessary to strengthen opposition to a potential nuclear deal with Iran being negotiated by the US and key allies.

The intervention by Dagan – who ended his tenure as the head of Mossad in 2011 – is doubly significant because he shares the prime minister’s view over the risk posed by a nuclear Iran and is regarded as generally hawkish on defence and security matters.

Netanyahu has made security and the Iranian nuclear programme – and the US-led negotiations to contain it – his key election issue.

Recent days have also seen anonymous criticism of Netanyahu’s speech from serving intelligence officers as well as from former diplomats and political figures in Israel, including Isaac Herzog, the leader of the opposition.

Saying that he was aware that Israel was already “paying a high price” over the confrontation with the Obama administration – albeit in ways he could not disclose – Dagan said: “The person causing the most strategic harm to Israel on the Iranian issue is the prime minister.

“As someone who has served Israel in various security capacities for 45 years, including during the country’s most difficult hours, I feel that we are now at a critical point regarding our existence and our security.

“Our standing in the world is not brilliant right now. The question of Israel’s legitimacy is up for debate. We should not erode our relations with our most important friend. Certainly not in public, certainly not by becoming involved in its domestic politics. This is not proper behaviour for a prime minister.”

Insisting he held no personal animus towards Netanyahu, who had helped him get a liver transplant, he said: “I have no personal issue with the prime minister, his wife, his spending and the way he conducts himself. I’m talking about the country he leads.

“An Israeli prime minister who clashes with the US administration has to ask himself what the risks are. On the matter of settlements, there is no difference between the two [US] parties. And even so, they provide us with a veto umbrella. In a situation of a confrontation, this umbrella is liable to vanish, and within a short time, Israel could find itself facing international sanctions.

“The risks of such a clash are intolerable. We are already today paying a high price. Some of them I know and cannot elaborate.

“I would not have confronted the United States and its president. Netanyahu may get applause in Congress, but all the power is in the White House. What will Netanyahu gain by addressing Congress? I just don’t understand it. Is his goal to get a standing ovation? This trip to Washington is doomed to failure.”

Dagan’s intervention follows that of fellow former Mossad head Shabtai Shavit and the former head of the elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit who are among scores of former commanders involved in a video published on Facebook calling for Israel to replace Netanyahu.

Netanyahu’s determination to push on with his speech has seen unusually critical remarks from senior US administration officials in the last week who have gone out of their way to express their displeasure.

Among them was John Kerry, the secretary of state, who openly questioned Netanyahu’s judgment on the issue, and Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice who warned that it was “destructive to the fabric” of US-Israeli relations.

Netanyahu’s plans to speak to Congress have also irritated many Democratic party members who view the speech as a partisan intervention in US politics on the side of the Republican party, prompting a number of Democrats to say they would not attend the speech.

The speech is also being snubbed by Obama and Joe Biden, his vice president.

After leaving Mossad, Dagan went public with his criticism of Netanyahu’s Iran policy, saying a military attack on Iran was “the stupidest thing I have ever heard”.

Gee IPFreely, sounds like election time in Israel. Remove the rhetoric and ask Dagan if there are any drawbacks to Iran getting the weapon necessary to wipe Israel off the map. I don't remember Ajad excluding any of Netanyahu's opposition when he told us what Iran's goal was.

 

[hangover]

Netanyahu's Big Tuesday

As the cons point their fingers at Clinton for foreign fundraising. That's extra hippo in their crit.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Obama has people in Israel walking the streets with pamphlets that say, "Anybody but BiBi" regarding the upcoming election. And he's lying. He has indeed met with other foreign candidates prior to their elections in case you believe that garbage excuse. He's already involved in Israel's election. He's campaigning for one of the candidates.
He has completely and as a monarch, reversed our allies to join forces with terrorists. We have always backed Israel. Now he has turned America's back on them and instead has chosen to back Hamas, a terrorist group, and insists Israel give them their Capitol. That is tantamount to us giving half of Washington D. C. to ISIS. And now, unstable maniacal Iran?

Ask yourself what business we had overthrowing our Egyptian ally in favor of the terrorist group, The Muslim Brotherhood.
And he has chosen Iran over our ally. The writing is on the wall.

Listen to what Netanyahu says. He lives in that war zone. He understands the consequences of a clueless President empowering terrorists.

So does this former head of Mossad and various other warriors.Dagan’s intervention follows that of fellow former Mossad head Shabtai Shavit and the former head of the elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit who are among scores of former commanders involved in a video published on Facebook calling for Israel to replace Netanyahu.
Former Mossad head urges Israeli voters to oust Binyamin Netanyahu


Meir Dagan says prime minister’s policies are ‘destructive to the future and security of Israel’



Binyamin Netanyahu has said he believes that his speech is necessary to strengthen opposition to a potential nuclear deal with Iran being negotiated by the US and key allies. Photograph: Abir Sultan/AP
Peter Beaumont in Jerusalem

Friday 27 February 2015 19.09 GMTLast modified on Saturday 28 February 201500.07 GMT

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A former head of Israel’s foreign intelligence service Mossad is urging voters to oust Binyamin Netanyahu in the next general election, accusing the prime minister of endangering the country’s security with his stance on the Iranian nuclear programme.

Meir Dagan, a vocal critic of Netanyahu’s Iran policy since stepping down as Mossad chief four years ago, is to be a keynote speaker at a rally in Tel Aviv next weekend, calling on the public to turf the prime minister out of office on 17 March.

Netanyahu was due to fly to Washington on Friday.

In a trenchant critique of Netanyahu’s leadership, delivered in a long interview in Israel’s biggest-selling newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth, Dagan said the prime minister’s policies were “destructive to the future and security of Israel”.

Netanyahu’s planned speech has brought the already uncomfortable state of relations with the Obama administration to a new low amid suspicion that the speech – at the invitation of Republican house speaker John Boehner – was designed to enhance the Israeli prime minister’s electoral prospects.

Netanyahu has said he believes that his speech is necessary to strengthen opposition to a potential nuclear deal with Iran being negotiated by the US and key allies.

The intervention by Dagan – who ended his tenure as the head of Mossad in 2011 – is doubly significant because he shares the prime minister’s view over the risk posed by a nuclear Iran and is regarded as generally hawkish on defence and security matters.

Netanyahu has made security and the Iranian nuclear programme – and the US-led negotiations to contain it – his key election issue.

Recent days have also seen anonymous criticism of Netanyahu’s speech from serving intelligence officers as well as from former diplomats and political figures in Israel, including Isaac Herzog, the leader of the opposition.

Saying that he was aware that Israel was already “paying a high price” over the confrontation with the Obama administration – albeit in ways he could not disclose – Dagan said: “The person causing the most strategic harm to Israel on the Iranian issue is the prime minister.

“As someone who has served Israel in various security capacities for 45 years, including during the country’s most difficult hours, I feel that we are now at a critical point regarding our existence and our security.

“Our standing in the world is not brilliant right now. The question of Israel’s legitimacy is up for debate. We should not erode our relations with our most important friend. Certainly not in public, certainly not by becoming involved in its domestic politics. This is not proper behaviour for a prime minister.”

Insisting he held no personal animus towards Netanyahu, who had helped him get a liver transplant, he said: “I have no personal issue with the prime minister, his wife, his spending and the way he conducts himself. I’m talking about the country he leads.

“An Israeli prime minister who clashes with the US administration has to ask himself what the risks are. On the matter of settlements, there is no difference between the two [US] parties. And even so, they provide us with a veto umbrella. In a situation of a confrontation, this umbrella is liable to vanish, and within a short time, Israel could find itself facing international sanctions.

“The risks of such a clash are intolerable. We are already today paying a high price. Some of them I know and cannot elaborate.

“I would not have confronted the United States and its president. Netanyahu may get applause in Congress, but all the power is in the White House. What will Netanyahu gain by addressing Congress? I just don’t understand it. Is his goal to get a standing ovation? This trip to Washington is doomed to failure.”

Dagan’s intervention follows that of fellow former Mossad head Shabtai Shavit and the former head of the elite Sayeret Matkal commando unit who are among scores of former commanders involved in a video published on Facebook calling for Israel to replace Netanyahu.

Netanyahu’s determination to push on with his speech has seen unusually critical remarks from senior US administration officials in the last week who have gone out of their way to express their displeasure.

Among them was John Kerry, the secretary of state, who openly questioned Netanyahu’s judgment on the issue, and Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice who warned that it was “destructive to the fabric” of US-Israeli relations.

Netanyahu’s plans to speak to Congress have also irritated many Democratic party members who view the speech as a partisan intervention in US politics on the side of the Republican party, prompting a number of Democrats to say they would not attend the speech.

The speech is also being snubbed by Obama and Joe Biden, his vice president.

After leaving Mossad, Dagan went public with his criticism of Netanyahu’s Iran policy, saying a military attack on Iran was “the stupidest thing I have ever heard”.

Gee IPFreely, sounds like election time in Israel. Remove the rhetoric and ask Dagan if there are any drawbacks to Iran getting the weapon necessary to wipe Israel off the map. I don't remember Ajad excluding any of Netanyahu's opposition when he told us what Iran's goal was.

Gee Paddy you really think its election rhetoric. As you are the font of all rhetoric adjudication, do you think that Ahmadinejad the very ex President of Iran's threats were nothing more than RHETORIC as well.
Ps how much of the American tax payer $ have the Israelis received this year? and is it significantly less than under Dubya?

 

[The Irish Ram]

I prefer Irish since Paddy is usually used for males. Never claimed to be a font of anything, but I am as allowed as you are to voice an opinion. Yes, I do think the whole thing is election manipulation. Obama's campaign manager is in Israel, actively campaigning against Netanyahu. No, I believe a-jad will be coming back into the picture and don't believe he was just kidding when he said Iran wants to remove Israel from the face of the earth. While you play Dubya politics, Iran is on the move, and working hard to make nuclear bombs. How much tax payer money has gone to overthrow governments, and fund Muslim nations?

So are you for withdrawing our financial support from Israel? How much of the Muslim cut would you like to see withdrawn as well? If Obama allows Iran to start building bombs and they sell them to the various terrorist organizations, and those "organizations' surround tiny little Israel, what would you do if you were Israel?
Since one is an ally and the others are in a holy war against us, what is the logical paring for America? Should we support a democratic nation, or all the others who practice Sharia law and who have made their brutal intentions quite clear?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Netanyahu's Big Tuesday

As the cons point their fingers at Clinton for foreign fundraising. That's extra hippo in their crit.

No, one is an ally. Support should be able to be counted on for an ally and by an ally. Our allies are being replaced with regimes Obama wants in place. This is not con vs lib, tap dance busy work. This is an American Security issue.
My fingers close my nose at the mention of Bill Clinton and my political affiliation has 0 to do with it. I believe he is an immoral slug. And I believe his wife is ruthless.

What is hippo are the Clinton's sucking at the teat of the very people libs target to occupy, because of their 1% status, and greed, and manipulation. Wall Street. When you vote for Billary, understand who they really belong to. Wall Street is funding them and Wall Street will be expecting a return on their investment.
The other hippo, is wanting to elect an American for pres. that is beholden to radical Islam. The Muslims placed their money wisely and will be expecting a return on their "investment".

 

[I.P.Freely]

I prefer Irish since Paddy is usually used for males. Never claimed to be a font of anything, but I am as allowed as you are to voice an opinion. Yes, I do think the whole thing is election manipulation. Obama's campaign manager is in Israel, actively campaigning against Netanyahu. No, I believe a-jad will be coming back into the picture and don't believe he was just kidding when he said Iran wants to remove Israel from the face of the earth. While you play Dubya politics, Iran is on the move, and working hard to make nuclear bombs. How much tax payer money has gone to overthrow governments, and fund Muslim nations?

So are you for withdrawing our financial support from Israel? How much of the Muslim cut would you like to see withdrawn as well? If Obama allows Iran to start building bombs and they sell them to the various terrorist organizations, and those "organizations' surround tiny little Israel, what would you do if you were Israel?
Since one is an ally and the others are in a holy war against us, what is the logical paring for America? Should we support a democratic nation, or all the others who practice Sharia law and who have made their brutal intentions quite clear?

Are you a castrated Irish Ram Paddy? who is paying for the campaign staff in Israel? America should stop funding Israel ? NO is my answer as it frees up funding for example to create the most liberal abortion programme in the world. The rest of your rhetoric is twaddle. I applaud Obama for his actions in Iran and hope Hilary will carry them on.
PS I hope Obama lends Hillary his campaign manager. Israel election Labor challenger catches up with Netanyahu as vote nears World news The Guardian
In many respects Herzog is the antithesis of Netanyahu, with an understated and careful lawyerly delivery in contrast to Netanyahu’s gimmicks, rhetorical flourishes and hyperbole.

 

[The Irish Ram]

No, I am a girl who knows there is more than one meaning of ram. In my case, it is the name of an ancestor's ship. And
IPFreely on your post. A vote for Obama was a vote for Soros and radical Islam, and a vote for Hillary is a vote for radical Islam, and Soros.

 

[I.P.Freely]

No, I am a girl who knows there is more than one meaning of ram. In my case, it is the name of an ancestor's ship. And
IPFreely on your post. A vote for Obama was a vote for Soros and radical Islam, and a vote for Hillary is a vote for radical Islam, and Soros.

OK Ms Paddy, are you a fenian catholic ? The rest is just hyperbolic dross.

 

[The Irish Ram]

You haven't been right yet. Not a Catholic, fenian or otherwise. Why do you feel the need to move from opinions on the OP, to personal attacks to fill up your posts?

 

[I.P.Freely]

You have thin skin Ms Paddy, I'm just interested in those I educate.Are you goyim?
Netanyahu has caused Israel the most strategic damage on Iran - Israel News Ynetnews
"Some 65 percent of the world's oil reserves are in Iran and the countries surrounding it. So, it's a global problem. As for Israel, it enters the fray from a tricky place. Until now, Israel has never signed any international convention concerning nuclear weapons. Israel refuses to lay itself open to international supervision. It would best, therefore, for Israel not to place itself at the forefront. We'll support any effort, intelligence or political, but we will always be on the sidelines."

 

[The Irish Ram]

Well you're 0 for 3. Your posts have 0 effect on my demeanor/skin, and I don't need to resort to personal attacks to make a point concerning the OP.
Thanks for the tutelage offer, but not necessary, and no, not Jewish.
Bombs for Muslims = Bad for World. Israel has not threatened to wipe anyone off the map. Iran has. Which should we support?

 

[I.P.Freely]

Well Ms Paddy how long has Pakistan been nuclear?
Country Warheads (Active/Total) Date of first test CTBT status Delivery methods
Pakistan n.a. / 100–120 28 May 1998 ("Chagai-I") Non-signatory Land-based and air-based

 

[TemplarKormac]

Took me just a minute to get that one... LOL.

 

[hangover]

Netanyahu's Big Tuesday

As the cons point their fingers at Clinton for foreign fundraising. That's extra hippo in their crit.

No, one is an ally. Support should be able to be counted on for an ally and by an ally. Our allies are being replaced with regimes Obama wants in place. This is not con vs lib, tap dance busy work. This is an American Security issue.
My fingers close my nose at the mention of Bill Clinton and my political affiliation has 0 to do with it. I believe he is an immoral slug. And I believe his wife is ruthless.

What is hippo are the Clinton's sucking at the teat of the very people libs target to occupy, because of their 1% status, and greed, and manipulation. Wall Street. When you vote for Billary, understand who they really belong to. Wall Street is funding them and Wall Street will be expecting a return on their investment.
The other hippo, is wanting to elect an American for pres. that is beholden to radical Islam. The Muslims placed their money wisely and will be expecting a return on their "investment".

Not an ally. a welfare child of the cons.

 

[The Irish Ram]

An absolute ally. Always has been. Never declared jihad against us, and receives less than half as much aid as you lib's hand out to your Muslim buddies.

You have Israel confused with your friends that fly our planes into buildings, and cut people's heads off, and slaughter children row after row and they sit at their desks. You have been too busy with your con/lib war to realize the difference between an ally and an enemy.

 

[BlindBoo]

How many lies this time Bibi?

Leaked cables show Netanyahu s Iran bomb claim contradicted by Mossad World news The Guardian

Binyamin Netanyahu’s dramatic declaration to world leaders in 2012 that Iranwas about a year away from making a nuclear bomb was contradicted by his own secret service, according to a top-secret Mossad document.

It is part of a cache of hundreds of dossiers, files and cables from the world’s major intelligence services – one of the biggest spy leaks in recent times.

Brandishing a cartoon of a bomb with a red line to illustrate his point, the Israeli prime minister warned the UN in New York that Iran would be able to build nuclear weapons the following year and called for action to halt the process.

But in a secret report shared with South Africa a few weeks later, Israel’s intelligence agency concluded that Iran was “not performing the activity necessary to produce weapons”.

 

[The Irish Ram]

And that tell is:
special report shared with South Africa.........
How many believe Iran has no activity necessary to produce weapons?
Those hidden bunkers must be producing counterfeit Milky Way bars, not Nukes. That's why they hide their work from the peace keeping envoys sent by the UN. They don't really want to wipe Israel off the map. That's just a ploy to hide their candy making potential.

 

[I.P.Freely]

And that tell is:
special report shared with South Africa.........
How many believe Iran has no activity necessary to produce weapons?
Those hidden bunkers must be producing counterfeit Milky Way bars, not Nukes. That's why they hide their work from the peace keeping envoys sent by the UN. They don't really want to wipe Israel off the map. That's just a ploy to hide their candy making potential.

Learn goy they have no nukes,180 former Israeli Commanders think America should keep on negotiating with Iran, and that Netanyahu the big mouthed wanker is jeopardising Israel's security.
Former Israeli security commanders Benjamin Netanyahu speech will bring Iran closer to the bomb - Israel News - Jerusalem Post
The press conference featured Commanders for Israel's Security founder Maj.-Gen. (res.) Amnon Reshef, former deputy Mossad chief Maj.-Gen. (res.) Amiram Levin, former IDF Central Command chief Maj.-Gen. (res.) Avi Mizrachi, former executive director of the Defense Ministry Maj.-Gen. (res.) Amos Yaron and senior former IAF pilot, Brig.Gen.(res.) Ran Pecker.

"We called this press conference in order to call on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to cancel his upcoming speech to Congress and to stop before it is too late. It is no longer possible to hide the rift with the Americans, a rift that cannot be accepted. We believe that this poses a clear and present danger to the security of the State of Israel," Reshef said.

"When the prime minister of Israel presents a speech as if it can stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, he damages Israeli deterrence because there is not a single security expert that doesn't understand that after this speech, Iran will not be distanced from the nuclear option it is attempting to achieve. The people of the US see the rift between the countries and the leaders, the people of Israel see it, and no less importantly, the people of Iran see it," he added.