peacefan
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summary :
* Israel can not make peace with the Palestinians yet because the Palestinians still want Israel wiped off the map (although i will say i don't know if this is true, i'd have to do more media research).
* Israel is more likely to make a lasting peace with the Palestinians if the 'circle of peace' is expanded from having good relations with Saudi Arabia to other Arab countries
* Iran would be emboldened (pehaps notably in the *conventional war dimensions*) by attaining nuclear weapons.
* Biden admitted that the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) is dead[1], but that he (for some reason) was not going to announce it.
* Netanyahu, when asked by the reporters what would stop a rogue nation (Iran) from acquiring nuclear weapons, was clear : only a credible military threat can[2]. economic sanctions don't matter much[2].
[1] and i agree that it is dead, look at how the Iranians have stonewalled us like small children and expanded their nuclear program like a chokehold that is slowly increasing in pressure[1a].
[1a] much like governments in the western world are outlawing smoking at the moment, or stiffling hetro rights in favor of gay rights.
[2] i agree with both of these good points, but i'd like to point out that Iran has a lot of fundamentalist muslims living there, people who are unwilling to be ruled by the Iranian Green Party, much like Afghanistan is full of extremists who want to live under ancient rules that are only slightly modernized.
therefore, *actual regime change* (i think) should not be considered a realistic option (at this point or in the near to mid-range future, say up to 20 years from now) - the Iranian Green Party first has to show the *patience* that the women's rights movements showed in the West, before they can start to infiltrate Iranian politics - VERY GRADUALLY - a political chokehold move that could take decades to complete and which would result in a more moderate theocracy in Iran, something which i know would be the only option that would please Allah[3].
[3] i am an omni-Theist, i believe that the Christian God is The Creator and i believe in the validity of all major and minor religions and their Gods.
in my view, The Creator, at crucial points in Humanity's history, handed out the title of 'legitimate God' to several beings, like Allah, *and* the Jewish God.
summary :
* Israel can not make peace with the Palestinians yet because the Palestinians still want Israel wiped off the map (although i will say i don't know if this is true, i'd have to do more media research).
* Israel is more likely to make a lasting peace with the Palestinians if the 'circle of peace' is expanded from having good relations with Saudi Arabia to other Arab countries
* Iran would be emboldened (pehaps notably in the *conventional war dimensions*) by attaining nuclear weapons.
* Biden admitted that the JCPOA (Iran nuclear deal) is dead[1], but that he (for some reason) was not going to announce it.
* Netanyahu, when asked by the reporters what would stop a rogue nation (Iran) from acquiring nuclear weapons, was clear : only a credible military threat can[2]. economic sanctions don't matter much[2].
[1] and i agree that it is dead, look at how the Iranians have stonewalled us like small children and expanded their nuclear program like a chokehold that is slowly increasing in pressure[1a].
[1a] much like governments in the western world are outlawing smoking at the moment, or stiffling hetro rights in favor of gay rights.
[2] i agree with both of these good points, but i'd like to point out that Iran has a lot of fundamentalist muslims living there, people who are unwilling to be ruled by the Iranian Green Party, much like Afghanistan is full of extremists who want to live under ancient rules that are only slightly modernized.
therefore, *actual regime change* (i think) should not be considered a realistic option (at this point or in the near to mid-range future, say up to 20 years from now) - the Iranian Green Party first has to show the *patience* that the women's rights movements showed in the West, before they can start to infiltrate Iranian politics - VERY GRADUALLY - a political chokehold move that could take decades to complete and which would result in a more moderate theocracy in Iran, something which i know would be the only option that would please Allah[3].
[3] i am an omni-Theist, i believe that the Christian God is The Creator and i believe in the validity of all major and minor religions and their Gods.
in my view, The Creator, at crucial points in Humanity's history, handed out the title of 'legitimate God' to several beings, like Allah, *and* the Jewish God.