Netanyahu = Hitler

[AnjelicaT]

Hamas is a big supporter of nazi's

how exactly is HAMAS a big supporter of "nazis". as far as i can tell, the only "nazis" in the mideast today are jewish immigrants to israel from russia.

Mein Kampf was 5th on the best seller list in Palestine for a long time, the Hamas Charter could have been lifted straight out of Mein Kampf.

 

[Roudy]

how exactly is HAMAS a big supporter of "nazis". as far as i can tell, the only "nazis" in the mideast today are jewish immigrants to israel from russia.

And amazingly Mein Kampf is a huge seller in Muslim countries.

and you prove that one with a reliable, unbiased source...and make sure those muslims we are talking about are members of HAMAS, because that is the claim i disputed.

SMACK! I love slapping Nazi cocksuckers like you. Ha ha ha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf_in_the_Arabic_language

Mein Kampf (English: My Struggle, Arabic: كفاحي* kifāḥ&#299, Adolf Hitler's 900-page autobiography outlining his political views, has been translated into Arabic a number of times since the early 1930s.

Mein Kampf has been pointed to as an example of the influence of Nazism for Arab nationalists. According to Stefan Wild of the University of Bonn, Hitler's philosophy of National Socialism – of a state headed by a single, strong, charismatic leader with a submissive and adoring people – was a model for the founders of the Arab nationalist movement. Arabs favored Germany over other European powers, because "Germany was seen as having no direct colonial or territorial ambitions in the area. This was an important point of sympathy", Wild wrote.[2] They also saw German nationhood—which preceded German statehood—as a model for their own movement.
In October 1938, anti-Jewish treatises that included extracts from Mein Kampf were disseminated at an Islamic parliamentarians' conference "for the defense of Palestine" in Cairo.[11][2][12]

A new translation was published in 1963, translated by Luis al-Haj, a Nazi war criminal originally named Luis Heiden who fled to Egypt after World War II. The book was republished in 1995 by Bisan Publishers in Beirut.[6] According to a September 8, 1999, Agence France Presse report, Mein Kampf ranked sixth on the bestseller list compiled by Dar el-Shuruq bookshop in Ramallah, with sales of about 10 copies a week.[7][8] The bookshop owner attributed its popularity to its having been unavailable in the Palestinian territories due to an Israeli ban, and the Palestinian National Authority recently allowing it to be sold.[8] As of 2002, newsdealers on Edgware Road in central London, an area with a large Arab population, were selling the translation.[6] In 2005, the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, an Israeli think tank, confirmed the continued sale of the Bisan edition in bookstores on Edgeware.[9] In 2007 an Agence France-Presse reporter interviewed a bookseller at the Cairo International Book Fair who stated he had sold many copies of Mein Kampf.[10]

 

[sealadaigh]

On what basis do you conclude that "israeli citisends [sic] from russia" are supporters of the Nazis?

what leads me to conclude that "the only real supporters of the NAZIs that i have seen in the mideast and particularly among the palestinians and israelis, are israeli citisens from russia" is this...

Israeli neo-Nazi ring caught after attacks on synagogues | World news | The Guardian

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Israeli anger over 'Nazi' group

Neo-Nazism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel’s neo-Nazi gang: A symptom of a deeper malaise

More crap. "Israeli neo Nazsim". Ha ha ha. Some mental case like yourself decided to make waves.

make waves about what. i was asked for proof and i provided proof that the only real supporters of the nazis in the mideast among the palestinians and israelis was a group of jewish immigrants from russia.

 

[AnjelicaT]

You should try using credible news sources.

Eye-witness testimony, is not credible?

Where's your evidence that prove the story's false?

Do you think 'eye witnesses' always tell the truth? Are always credible? You should look up what lawyers, the police, the courts, judges and psychiatrists and psychologists have to say about that, loinboy. You seem to being particularly dumb today .

 

[AnjelicaT]

Just how barbaric and inhuman are the Israeli's?

How 'bout killing a pregnant women, then stopping to open up her stomach, pull out the dead baby and place it on the dead mother, to send a message to Gazans, this is our "Final Solution".

In the early hours of the morning [Sabra and Shatila witness testimony], about 16-17 armed soldiers entered her home and shot her husband, brother and cousin dead in front of her and children. She related that militia entered homes and shot at everyone including children and animals.

“Along the way to the stadium, I saw my cousin’s daughter who was pregnant lying dead. The murderers had opened her body and taken out her baby and put the baby on her. The child was dead as well. She was lying on the street.”

“Along the street there were a lot of dead bodies. Hundreds of bodies were strewn all over. We climbed a hill to the stadium. At the nearest houses I could see bodies of children. Between the houses, which had been half destroyed, there were bodies of men, and also women and children and animals.”

Shit like this makes me think, maybe Israel should be wiped out.

That's what we did to Hitler's Germany.

I see.
So you reject Irose's innocuous first-hand stories because she can't prove their veracity yet you not only embrace the unsubstantiated stories from unidentified "Palestinians" as reported by Global Research, you deem Israel to be worthy of destruction.
I can tell you all Nazis share your methodology and POV, Princess.

He's unbelievable, isn't he!

 

[AnjelicaT]

You should try using credible news sources.

Eye-witness testimony, is not credible?

Where's your evidence that prove the story's false?

Neither you nor your source, Global Research, have provided any evidence that the story is true.

The onus is on Loiny to prove it true, you don't ask someone to prove the dog didn't bark

 

[AnjelicaT]

You just have to look at Lamb Chop as a source of free entertainment. Apparently he has no problem at all with Syria using planes to bomb and bomb and bomb, but he never wants Israel to defend itself. With the stupid title of this thread, in his mind he probably wishes Hitler would have finished the job.

There you go, trying to hijack the thread,

You're a cyber terrorist! Not a very good one, either.

Start a thread on Syria and I'll tell you what my problems are.

We can already see what your problems are

 

[sealadaigh]

And amazingly Mein Kampf is a huge seller in Muslim countries.

and you prove that one with a reliable, unbiased source...and make sure those muslims we are talking about are members of HAMAS, because that is the claim i disputed.

SMACK! I love slapping Nazi cocksuckers like you. Ha ha ha.
Mein Kampf in the Arabic language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mein Kampf (English: My Struggle, Arabic: كفاحي* kifāḥ&#299, Adolf Hitler's 900-page autobiography outlining his political views, has been translated into Arabic a number of times since the early 1930s.

Mein Kampf has been pointed to as an example of the influence of Nazism for Arab nationalists. According to Stefan Wild of the University of Bonn, Hitler's philosophy of National Socialism – of a state headed by a single, strong, charismatic leader with a submissive and adoring people – was a model for the founders of the Arab nationalist movement. Arabs favored Germany over other European powers, because "Germany was seen as having no direct colonial or territorial ambitions in the area. This was an important point of sympathy", Wild wrote.[2] They also saw German nationhood—which preceded German statehood—as a model for their own movement.
In October 1938, anti-Jewish treatises that included extracts from Mein Kampf were disseminated at an Islamic parliamentarians' conference "for the defense of Palestine" in Cairo.[11][2][12]

A new translation was published in 1963, translated by Luis al-Haj, a Nazi war criminal originally named Luis Heiden who fled to Egypt after World War II. The book was republished in 1995 by Bisan Publishers in Beirut.[6] According to a September 8, 1999, Agence France Presse report, Mein Kampf ranked sixth on the bestseller list compiled by Dar el-Shuruq bookshop in Ramallah, with sales of about 10 copies a week.[7][8] The bookshop owner attributed its popularity to its having been unavailable in the Palestinian territories due to an Israeli ban, and the Palestinian National Authority recently allowing it to be sold.[8] As of 2002, newsdealers on Edgware Road in central London, an area with a large Arab population, were selling the translation.[6] In 2005, the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center, an Israeli think tank, confirmed the continued sale of the Bisan edition in bookstores on Edgeware.[9] In 2007 an Agence France-Presse reporter interviewed a bookseller at the Cairo International Book Fair who stated he had sold many copies of Mein Kampf.[10]

pay attention..."HAMAS".

secondly, i do not agree with loinboy that eyewitness accounts are particularly reliable. i regard wiki as a reliable source for the most part, and if you read the above CAREFULLY, it does not dispel that rumour.

if one takes the time to read the whole article by wiki, one will find that, by and large, most arabs and muslims reject mein kampf, thaat it sold a bit in ramallah (10 copies/week)
after israel, that light unto nations and beacon of democracy (see the first amendment to the constitution of the United States of America) took it off their banned book list, which was very green of the israelis, as i imagine the book burnings that occurred in NAZI germany contribute to pollution. an outright ban prevents that.

i did like the last sentence. i do not rely on eyewitness accounts myself, although i do take them into consideraation, that last bit of "proof" you offer is a second hand eyewitnees account, something i think those protesting loinboy's sources would eschew.

the body of your "evidence" is second hand anecdotal stories at best, much of it describes events that, and consists of opinion, which wiki makes clear...and not once is HAMAS mentioned, which is what we were discussing.

maybe you should go back to the "slapping nazi cocksuckers" drawing board and come up with a better strategy.

 

[SAYIT]

"Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission" is your source? Really? It's nothing but an Islamic kangaroo court, you fucking ignorant illiterate nincompoop.

Kuala Lumpur is the forum, the source are the survivers of the violence.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? That the Kuala Kangaroo Court is legit? I don't believe you are a Muslim so you can only be a Nazi.

 

[sealadaigh]

the samouni family...

if there is a dispute as to the actual facts of the incident, the IDF admits to killing the samouni family.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...hat-killed-21-members-of-gaza-family-1.427583

of course, they find these killings regrettable and are excused by the "fog of war" explanation, which has been the go to excuse for many israeli actions that has resulted in the deaths of noncombatants ever since it worked so well on a clear eighth of june day in 1967 on the eastern mediterranean.

 

[SAYIT]

Haha I know ! If it makes Israel look bad, than it's believable

It's believable because of posts like yours.

Nope.
It's not believable thanks to posts like yours, the lack of corroboration and the nature of those "peaceful Palestinians."
The Jenin "Massacre" is a prime example of how they roll:
"Jenin remained sealed throughout the invasion and claims of a massacre were circulated in the mass media by Palestinian officials. Stories of hundreds or thousands of civilians being killed in their homes as they were demolished spread throughout international media. Subsequent investigations found no evidence to substantiate claims of a massacre, and official totals from Palestinian and Israeli sources confirmed between 52 and 54 Palestinians, mostly gunmen, and 23 IDF soldiers as having been killed in the fighting."
Battle of Jenin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SAYIT]

Good grief. Folks will believe anything.

Provide proof that they're lying.

If you can't, why should we believe you?

You still have provided no proof they're not lying.

 

[SAYIT]

Ah, the old "prove that I'm wrong or else you're wrong" tactic. Never gets old, eh loiney?

Hey, I provided my evidence for the claim. If you object, you need to show evidence that proves your objection has merit. If you tried to pull this shit in a court of law, the judge wouldn't even hear what you had to say.

You consider the unsubstantiated camel crap from "Palestinians" to be evidence?" you are either naive or full of shit (or both). You can't even admit Jenin was camel crap.
Battle of Jenin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Jenin remained sealed throughout the invasion and claims of a massacre were circulated in the mass media by Palestinian officials. Stories of hundreds or thousands of civilians being killed in their homes as they were demolished spread throughout international media. Subsequent investigations found no evidence to substantiate claims of a massacre, and official totals from Palestinian and Israeli sources confirmed between 52 and 54 Palestinians, mostly gunmen, and 23 IDF soldiers as having been killed in the fighting."

 

[SAYIT]

Loinboy = sucker retard.

Is that your best?

He chose to be diplomatic.

 

[SAYIT]

Good Gaea, what makes you think you deserve anything better?

Because I'm a pretty kick-ass guy!

Yeah... a regular legend in your own very small mind.

 

[SAYIT]

You just have to look at Lamb Chop as a source of free entertainment. Apparently he has no problem at all with Syria using planes to bomb and bomb and bomb, but he never wants Israel to defend itself. With the stupid title of this thread, in his mind he probably wishes Hitler would have finished the job.

There you go, trying to hijack the thread,

You're a cyber terrorist! Not a very good one, either.

Start a thread on Syria and I'll tell you what my problems are.

It seems no one here cares about your problems, Princess, but I certainly hope you seek professional help for them.

 

[SAYIT]

You should try using credible news sources.

Eye-witness testimony, is not credible?

Where's your evidence that prove the story's false?

Do you think 'eye witnesses' always tell the truth? Are always credible? You should look up what lawyers, the police, the courts, judges and psychiatrists and psychologists have to say about that, loinboy. You seem to being particularly dumb today .

He seems particularly dumb everyday.

 

[SAYIT]

Just how barbaric and inhuman are the Israeli's?

How 'bout killing a pregnant women, then stopping to open up her stomach, pull out the dead baby and place it on the dead mother, to send a message to Gazans, this is our "Final Solution".


Shit like this makes me think, maybe Israel should be wiped out.

That's what we did to Hitler's Germany.

I see.
So you reject Irose's innocuous first-hand stories because she can't prove their veracity yet you not only embrace the unsubstantiated stories from unidentified "Palestinians" as reported by Global Research, you deem Israel to be worthy of destruction.
I can tell you all Nazis share your methodology and POV, Princess.

He's unbelievable, isn't he!

He's just a dime-a-dozen goose-stepper.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Just how barbaric and inhuman are the Israeli's?

How 'bout killing a pregnant women, then stopping to open up her stomach, pull out the dead baby and place it on the dead mother, to send a message to Gazans, this is our "Final Solution".

In the early hours of the morning [Sabra and Shatila witness testimony], about 16-17 armed soldiers entered her home and shot her husband, brother and cousin dead in front of her and children. She related that militia entered homes and shot at everyone including children and animals.

“Along the way to the stadium, I saw my cousin’s daughter who was pregnant lying dead. The murderers had opened her body and taken out her baby and put the baby on her. The child was dead as well. She was lying on the street.”

“Along the street there were a lot of dead bodies. Hundreds of bodies were strewn all over. We climbed a hill to the stadium. At the nearest houses I could see bodies of children. Between the houses, which had been half destroyed, there were bodies of men, and also women and children and animals.”

Shit like this makes me think, maybe Israel should be wiped out.

That's what we did to Hitler's Germany.

This particular story is hardly news. It happened in 1982, and these atrocities were committed by Lebanese Christians in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla, near Beirut. Whether the Israelis were accomplices or not, is open to different viewpoints. But this incident did not happen now, or under Netanyahu.
But with respect to the Gaza War fought recently, we should remember that Lincoln and Grant maintained a scorched earth policy during the Civil War, that eliminated slavery. War is war.

 

[Billo_Really]

This particular story is hardly news. It happened in 1982, and these atrocities were committed by Lebanese Christians in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla, near Beirut. Whether the Israelis were accomplices or not, is open to different viewpoints. But this incident did not happen now, or under Netanyahu.

Not according to the link. It happened in Gaza, 2009.

But with respect to the Gaza War fought recently, we should remember that Lincoln and Grant maintained a scorched earth policy during the Civil War, that eliminated slavery. War is war.

Ever since the nazis got done doing their thing, the civilized world created some international laws preventing the atrocities that were committed in WWII.