Navy Detected Titanic Sub Implosion Sunday But Biden Waited Till Today To Tell Us About It

What information is that ?
All concerned ignored a very, very important engineer who warned early that descending that submersible would result in an IMPLOSION and might only provide "milliseconds of warning" before a catastrophic implosion.

Some things about engineering are EXTREMELY unpleasant to listen to when the evidence foretells of a bad outcome.

I recommend that anyone who is truly concerned about this issue would get on a soapbox and say "YOU IDIOTS. PAY ATTENTION TO THE ENGINEER that is saying things you hate to hear. IGNORING THE TRUTH HAS CONSEQUENCES!!!!!

Here is only a part of the travesty best explained: A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired.
He knew that for sure ? Where does it say that….show us.
The director of marine operations at OceanGate, the company whose submersible went missing Sunday on an expedition to the Titanic in the North Atlantic, was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull and other systems before its maiden voyage, according to a filing in a 2018 lawsuit first reported by Insider and New Republic.
David Lochridge was terminated in January 2018 after presenting a scathing quality control report on the vessel to OceanGate’s senior management, including founder and CEO Stockton Rush, who is on board the missing vessel.
According to a court filing by Lochridge, the preamble to his report read: “Now is the time to properly address items that may pose a safety risk to personnel. Verbal communication of the key items I have addressed in my attached document have been dismissed on several occasions, so I feel now I must make this report so there is an official record in place.”
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The report detailed “numerous issues that posed serious safety concerns,” according to the filing. These included Lochridge’s worry that “visible flaws” in the carbon fiber supplied to OceanGate raised the risk of small flaws expanding into larger tears during “pressure cycling.” These are the huge pressure changes that the submersible would experience as it made its way and from the deep ocean floor. He noted that a previously tested scale model of the hull had “prevalent flaws.”
Carbon fiber composites can be stronger and lighter than steel, making a submersible naturally buoyant. But they can also be prone to sudden failure under stress. The hull that Lochridge was writing about was made by Spencer Composites, the only company to have previously made a carbon fiber hull for a manned submersible. (That submersible was commissioned by explorer Steve Fossett for a record-breaking dive, but he died in a light aircraft crash before it could be used.)
Lochridge’s recommendation was that non-destructive testing of the Titan’s hull was necessary to ensure a “solid and safe product.” The filing states that Lochridge was told that such testing was impossible, and that OceanGate would instead rely on its much touted acoustic monitoring system.
The company claims this technology, developed in-house, uses acoustic sensors to listen for the tell-tale sounds of carbon fibers in the hull deteriorating to provide “early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface.”

Lochridge, however, worried in the lawsuit that the system would not reveal flaws until the vessel was descending, and then might only provide “milliseconds” of warning before a catastrophic implosion.

Russell McDuff, a veteran oceanographer and chairman of OceanGate’s scientific and research foundation for three years, noted that contact with the Titan was lost on Sunday after only an hour and 45 minutes. “This suggests to me that they might have still been in the water column, descending to the Titanic,” told TechCrunch in a phone interview.

Lochridge also strongly encouraged OceanGate to have a classification agency, such as the American Bureau of Shipping, inspect and certify the Titan.
A day after filing his report, Lochridge was summoned to a meeting with Rush and company’s human resources, engineering and operations directors. There, the filing states, he was also informed that the manufacturer of the Titan’s forward viewport would only certify it to a depth of 1,300 meters due to OceanGate’s experimental design. The filing states that OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the Titan’s intended depth of 4,000 meters. The Titanic lies about 3,800 meters below the surface.
The filing also claims that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible.
At the end of the meeting, after saying that he would not authorize any manned tests of Titan without a scan of the hull, Lochridge was fired and escorted from the building.

Lochridge, who claimed he was discharged in retaliation for being a whistleblower, made his filing after OceanGate sued him in federal court in Seattle that June. OceanGate has accused him of sharing confidential information with two individuals, as well as with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). In the lawsuit, OceanGate characterized Lochridge’s report as false, and accused him of committing fraud by manufacturing a reason to be fired.
The lawsuit was settled in November 2018. Neither OceanGate nor Lochridge responded to requests for comment. OSHA could not immediately provide details of the alleged report. A routine OSHA inspection of OceanGate in 2021 found only three minor workplace safety violations resulting in no financial penalties.
A few months after Lochridge’s dismissal, the company published a blog post that laid out its reasons for not having Titan certified by the American Bureau of Shipping or a similar organization.
“The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure,” it reads. “As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.”

In 2019, Rush gave an interview to Smithsonian magazine, in which he said: “There hasn’t been an injury in the commercial sub industry in over 35 years. It’s obscenely safe, because they have all these regulations. But it also hasn’t innovated or grown—because they have all these regulations.”
Following Lochridge’s departure, the Titan was tested safely on increasingly deep dives, including to 4,000 meters in the Bahamas. However, it seems one of Lochridge’s concerns would soon be borne out. In January 2020, Rush gave an interview to GeekWire in which he admitted that the Titan’s hull “showed signs of cyclic fatigue.” Because of this, the hull’s depth rating had been reduced to 3,000 meters. “Not enough to get to the Titanic,” Rush said.
During 2020 and 2021, the Titan’s hull was either repaired or rebuilt by two Washington state companies, Electroimpact and Janicki Industries, that largely work in aerospace. In late 2021, the Titan made its first trip down to the wreck of the Titanic.
Spencer Composites says that the Titan was not using its carbon fiber hull on Sunday’s dive. Presumably apart from the hull work, one source familiar with the company told TechCrunch that not much with Titan had changed at all since 2018.

At the time of publication, the Titan remains missing, with Rush, French diver Paul-Henri Nargeolet, British billionaire Hamish Harding, Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son reportedly on board. A massive search and rescue operation is underway.
“They’re doing everything that they logically can,” McDuff said. “But I’m a little pessimistic because of the amount of time that’s gone by.”
More TechCrunch

David Lockridge told the truth. It wasn't pleasant. Because the owners of the Ocean submersible decided he was wrong, it cost the lives of 5 men. They couldn't cope with milliseconds to make a decision, as David Lockridge stated a couple of years and a lawsuit earlier.

There's more: 'Extreme danger': Ex OceanGate employee alleges firing for raising concerns over missing Titanic sub

Location of the Wreck

13410311_062123-cc-titanic-wreck-map-img.jpeg

Mr. Dagosa, you seem a principled man. The company hired a man highly experienced in the pressure of ocean depths and submarines. His engineering argument wasn't intended to be a noose for the goose, but it was taken that way. Inexperienced mathematitians should listen to the experts they hired. They hired the best man. Then they fired him because his cautionary was as crass as the result this past week. They didn't believe their own expert and experienced expert at that. Engineers save lives. They should be treated with the greatest of trust because their math is generally accurate and considers more than may be understood by their bosses. Actually, all that is left are their families tears. Rehashing the coulda woulda shouldas will never bring these men back. :( My husband was a professional engineer. His safety meetings drew him a lot of ire from the company's administration, so he pulled out his notebook that compared deaths in the company due to a lack of safety knowledge (2 per annum for 30 years = 60 electrocutions) and his 25-year safety-taught crews (25 years, zero deaths due to electrocution and no lost time for 25 years). In lawsuits alone, he saved his company $120,000,000.00. To their credit albiet grudgingly, they let him hand out expensive cold weather coats for his linemen to climb high wires at 50' in the air in windy chill factors of 80 below zero in the state of Wyoming..

If anyone here is in administration and doubts the value of one engineer, read the above paragraph. I cannot say enough good about engineers, and how my late husband's faithfulness to the most important things in his industry saved lives, saved lost-time pay for accidents, and other details of a person dedicated to excellence of care for other people's lives. I bless his instructors at the University of Texas and the University of Illinois for their excellence and producing people with more than just mathematical excellence--they included some common sense professors in there somewhere. His was a life well-lived. I can't describe the joy he was to be around for 44 short years.


 
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The navy knew Sunday. You mean to tell me that Biden doesn't know anything about major news events? He is that clueless? Lol, I already know the answer, but it must suck being you.
It was the coast guard Alone who made the final determination. You want Biden to make guesses like Ztrump does and say Covid will be gone by spring ? Or do you make announcements when you only have all the facts,.
Tell us….guess like Trump ?

 
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Now they're covering this fake Russian Civil War that appears to be just a photo-op.
Anything to keep the media from covering the disastrous Biden Adm.

The Biden Adm. is going down. It's all over the internet, and I bet they try to shut down the truth before all is said and done. I think it's a little bit late for Biden to do the right thing now.
 
If that can be proven, will you admit Biden is corrupted or you going to continue being a jackass?
You’re making up shit now.
If that can be proven, will you admit Biden is corrupted or you going to continue being a jackass?
If if if if if if
Is that the way you do business…..if.
the coast guard makes the final announcement, NOT THE PRESIDENT

I suppose MTG knew everything right bubba ?
 
The Biden Adm. is going down. It's all over the internet, and I bet they try to shut down the truth before all is said and done. I think it's a little bit late for Biden to do the right thing now.

More made up shit.
The Biden Adm. is going down. It's all over the internet, and I bet they try to shut down the truth before all is said and done. I think it's a little bit late for Biden to do the right thing now.

wow, people are talking. It must be true when Humpers make up shit…
 
The Navy detected the implosion and probably figured that it was the baby sub. It's just that they needed more proof, than just the sound. When the debris field was discovered, Biden released the information. The OP makes it sound like it was a conspiracy. To what end?
 
The Navy detected the implosion and probably figured that it was the baby sub. It's just that they needed more proof, than just the sound. When the debris field was discovered, Biden released the information. The OP makes it sound like it was a conspiracy. To what end?
And it was the coast guard who headed the search, not the navy. Tne coast guard isn’t going to stop a search based upon the navy’s input without more physical eveidence.
 
The Navy detected the implosion and probably figured that it was the baby sub. It's just that they needed more proof, than just the sound. When the debris field was discovered, Biden released the information. The OP makes it sound like it was a conspiracy. To what end?
They have no end. They are groping after supporting the worse president in human history soon to be on trial for federal crimes.
 
All concerned ignored a very, very important engineer who warned early that descending that submersible would result in an IMPLOSION and might only provide "milliseconds of warning" before a catastrophic implosion.

Some things about engineering are EXTREMELY unpleasant to listen to when the evidence foretells of a bad outcome.

I recommend that anyone who is truly concerned about this issue would get on a soapbox and say "YOU IDIOTS. PAY ATTENTION TO THE ENGINEER that is saying things you hate to hear. IGNORING THE TRUTH HAS CONSEQUENCES!!!!!

Here is only a part of the travesty best explained: A whistleblower raised safety concerns about OceanGate’s submersible in 2018. Then he was fired.

The director of marine operations at OceanGate, the company whose submersible went missing Sunday on an expedition to the Titanic in the North Atlantic, was fired after raising concerns about its first-of-a-kind carbon fiber hull and other systems before its maiden voyage, according to a filing in a 2018 lawsuit first reported by Insider and New Republic.
David Lochridge was terminated in January 2018 after presenting a scathing quality control report on the vessel to OceanGate’s senior management, including founder and CEO Stockton Rush, who is on board the missing vessel.
According to a court filing by Lochridge, the preamble to his report read: “Now is the time to properly address items that may pose a safety risk to personnel. Verbal communication of the key items I have addressed in my attached document have been dismissed on several occasions, so I feel now I must make this report so there is an official record in place.”
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The report detailed “numerous issues that posed serious safety concerns,” according to the filing. These included Lochridge’s worry that “visible flaws” in the carbon fiber supplied to OceanGate raised the risk of small flaws expanding into larger tears during “pressure cycling.” These are the huge pressure changes that the submersible would experience as it made its way and from the deep ocean floor. He noted that a previously tested scale model of the hull had “prevalent flaws.”
Carbon fiber composites can be stronger and lighter than steel, making a submersible naturally buoyant. But they can also be prone to sudden failure under stress. The hull that Lochridge was writing about was made by Spencer Composites, the only company to have previously made a carbon fiber hull for a manned submersible. (That submersible was commissioned by explorer Steve Fossett for a record-breaking dive, but he died in a light aircraft crash before it could be used.)
Lochridge’s recommendation was that non-destructive testing of the Titan’s hull was necessary to ensure a “solid and safe product.” The filing states that Lochridge was told that such testing was impossible, and that OceanGate would instead rely on its much touted acoustic monitoring system.
The company claims this technology, developed in-house, uses acoustic sensors to listen for the tell-tale sounds of carbon fibers in the hull deteriorating to provide “early warning detection for the pilot with enough time to arrest the descent and safely return to surface.”

Lochridge, however, worried in the lawsuit that the system would not reveal flaws until the vessel was descending, and then might only provide “milliseconds” of warning before a catastrophic implosion.

Russell McDuff, a veteran oceanographer and chairman of OceanGate’s scientific and research foundation for three years, noted that contact with the Titan was lost on Sunday after only an hour and 45 minutes. “This suggests to me that they might have still been in the water column, descending to the Titanic,” told TechCrunch in a phone interview.

Lochridge also strongly encouraged OceanGate to have a classification agency, such as the American Bureau of Shipping, inspect and certify the Titan.
A day after filing his report, Lochridge was summoned to a meeting with Rush and company’s human resources, engineering and operations directors. There, the filing states, he was also informed that the manufacturer of the Titan’s forward viewport would only certify it to a depth of 1,300 meters due to OceanGate’s experimental design. The filing states that OceanGate refused to pay for the manufacturer to build a viewport that would meet the Titan’s intended depth of 4,000 meters. The Titanic lies about 3,800 meters below the surface.
The filing also claims that hazardous flammable materials were being used within the submersible.
At the end of the meeting, after saying that he would not authorize any manned tests of Titan without a scan of the hull, Lochridge was fired and escorted from the building.

Lochridge, who claimed he was discharged in retaliation for being a whistleblower, made his filing after OceanGate sued him in federal court in Seattle that June. OceanGate has accused him of sharing confidential information with two individuals, as well as with the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). In the lawsuit, OceanGate characterized Lochridge’s report as false, and accused him of committing fraud by manufacturing a reason to be fired.
The lawsuit was settled in November 2018. Neither OceanGate nor Lochridge responded to requests for comment. OSHA could not immediately provide details of the alleged report. A routine OSHA inspection of OceanGate in 2021 found only three minor workplace safety violations resulting in no financial penalties.
A few months after Lochridge’s dismissal, the company published a blog post that laid out its reasons for not having Titan certified by the American Bureau of Shipping or a similar organization.
“The vast majority of marine (and aviation) accidents are a result of operator error, not mechanical failure,” it reads. “As a result, simply focusing on classing the vessel does not address the operational risks. Maintaining high-level operational safety requires constant, committed effort and a focused corporate culture – two things that OceanGate takes very seriously and that are not assessed during classification.”

In 2019, Rush gave an interview to Smithsonian magazine, in which he said: “There hasn’t been an injury in the commercial sub industry in over 35 years. It’s obscenely safe, because they have all these regulations. But it also hasn’t innovated or grown—because they have all these regulations.”
Following Lochridge’s departure, the Titan was tested safely on increasingly deep dives, including to 4,000 meters in the Bahamas. However, it seems one of Lochridge’s concerns would soon be borne out. In January 2020, Rush gave an interview to GeekWire in which he admitted that the Titan’s hull “showed signs of cyclic fatigue.” Because of this, the hull’s depth rating had been reduced to 3,000 meters. “Not enough to get to the Titanic,” Rush said.
During 2020 and 2021, the Titan’s hull was either repaired or rebuilt by two Washington state companies, Electroimpact and Janicki Industries, that largely work in aerospace. In late 2021, the Titan made its first trip down to the wreck of the Titanic.
Spencer Composites says that the Titan was not using its carbon fiber hull on Sunday’s dive. Presumably apart from the hull work, one source familiar with the company told TechCrunch that not much with Titan had changed at all since 2018.

At the time of publication, the Titan remains missing, with Rush, French diver Paul-Henri Nargeolet, British billionaire Hamish Harding, Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son reportedly on board. A massive search and rescue operation is underway.
“They’re doing everything that they logically can,” McDuff said. “But I’m a little pessimistic because of the amount of time that’s gone by.”
More TechCrunch

David Lockridge told the truth. It wasn't pleasant. Because the owners of the Ocean submersible decided he was wrong, it cost the lives of 5 men. They couldn't cope with milliseconds to make a decision, as David Lockridge stated a couple of years and a lawsuit earlier.

There's more: 'Extreme danger': Ex OceanGate employee alleges firing for raising concerns over missing Titanic sub

Location of the Wreck

13410311_062123-cc-titanic-wreck-map-img.jpeg

Mr. Dagosa, you seem a principled man. The company hired a man highly experienced in the pressure of ocean depths and submarines. His engineering argument wasn't intended to be a noose for the goose, but it was taken that way. Inexperienced mathematitians should listen to the experts they hired. They hired the best man. Then they fired him because his cautionary was as crass as the result this past week. They didn't believe their own expert and experienced expert at that. Engineers save lives. They should be treated with the greatest of trust because their math is generally accurate and considers more than may be understood by their bosses. Actually, all that is left are their families tears. Rehashing the coulda woulda shouldas will never bring these men back. :( My husband was a professional engineer. His safety meetings drew him a lot of ire from the company's administration, so he pulled out his notebook that compared deaths in the company due to a lack of safety knowledge (2 per annum for 30 years = 60 electrocutions) and his 25-year safety-taught crews (25 years, zero deaths due to electrocution and no lost time for 25 years). In lawsuits alone, he saved his company $120,000,000.00. To their credit albiet grudgingly, they let him hand out expensive cold weather coats for his linemen to climb high wires at 50' in the air in windy chill factors of 80 below zero in the state of Wyoming..

If anyone here is in administration and doubts the value of one engineer, read the above paragraph. I cannot say enough good about engineers, and how my late husband's faithfulness to the most important things in his industry saved lives, saved lost-time pay for accidents, and other details of a person dedicated to excellence of care for other people's lives. I bless his instructors at the University of Texas and the University of Illinois for their excellence and producing people with more than just mathematical excellence--they included some common sense professors in there somewhere. His was a life well-lived. I can't describe the joy he was to be around for 44 short years.


No, I seem a logical man. The rescue mission was conducted by the Canadian coast guard, not the US navy. They make all the formal announcements, not Biden, not the US navy.
 
More made up shit.

wow, people are talking. It must be true when Humpers make up shit…
None of this was made up, Mr. Dagosa. I read through 30 different sources before picking the two that are the least likely to be trashed by someone who does not value the mathematics behind an engineer who had the future of the vessel down to milliseconds. Here's a little gift to help you get your scatology out of your mouth:

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None of this was made up, Mr. Dagosa. I read through 30 different sources before picking the two that are the least likely to be trashed by someone who does not value the mathematics behind an engineer who had the future of the vessel down to milliseconds. Here's a little gift to help you get your scatology out of your mouth:

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You read. Wow. What makes you think Biden is responsible to upset everyone instead of the Canadian coast guard who are RESPONSIBLE for the rescue operation.

Youre used to Trump making up shit , like covid will be gone in the spring five years ago. That’s what made up shit sounds like
 
You read. Wow. What makes you think Biden is responsible to upset everyone instead of the Canadian coast guard who are RESPONSIBLE for the rescue operation.

Youre used to Trump making up shit , like covid will be gone in the spring five years ago. That’s what made up shit sounds like
(1) I did not mention either the US Navy nor the Canadian Coast Guard, someone else did.
(2) (scatology, etc.) Yes, Biden is going down. It's sad that his advisers have not approached him about resigning. And I do not "make up" gossip when it's official House business.

 
You read. Wow. What makes you think Biden is responsible to upset everyone instead of the Canadian coast guard who are RESPONSIBLE for the rescue operation.

Youre used to Trump making up shit , like covid will be gone in the spring five years ago. That’s what made up shit sounds like
I did not initiate nor say President Biden was responsible for the Titan tragedy. Not a word. What meds are you on? :blahblah:
 
It was the coast guard Alone who made the final determination. You want Biden to make guesses like Ztrump does and say Covid will be gone by spring ? Or do you make announcements when you only have all the facts,.
Tell us….guess like Trump ?

Actually they knew it was the vessel because their first excuse was the sonar system was top secret. Then they got caught in that lie and nothing. That sonar system can detect a propeller, you say they can't tell an implosion at the exact same location of where the vessel is suppose to be? Quit lying, I mean Biden didn't break any laws but proved how corrupt he is.
 
You’re making up shit now.

If if if if if if
Is that the way you do business…..if.
the coast guard makes the final announcement, NOT THE PRESIDENT

I suppose MTG knew everything right bubba ?
But look at the first post in this forum, it gives you the links to the navy knowing about it on Sunday.
Now the question is, you ready to call Biden corrupt? Why hold breaking news from the American people, to cover up your mess up's? He did that.
 
Sleepy Joe only withheld information about the implosion of the craft for a couple of day's. So he could hide the Hunter and his impeachment proposal.
You guys know if an oil barrel rolls off a ship eventually it implodes, right?
 

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