Nanny State: Feds Warn Of 'Salt Abuse'; Too Much Bread...

[paulitician]

I love Nanny State terms like 'Salt Abuse.' I guess those terms make it easier for many to accept the Nanny State's possible coming 'War on Salt.' Such dark & ominous terms.

 

[paulitician]

Maybe the Nanny State should ban killing babies rather than light bulbs or salt? Now there's a real health hazard no?...Uh oh, now watch all the Socialist Nanny Staters freak out. Can't possibly talk about saving the babies huh?

 

[Katzndogz]

I remember when admonishments against smoking was just information. Then there was all that information about trans-fats. The government tries to be kindly. First it gives you information, if you do not comply, then they'll force you.

a large majority did not comply with the tobacco warnings.

Did they ban cigarettes?

So where are they forcing us?

No they did not ban cigarettes. They have made illegal many places where cigarettes can be smoked, including the outdoors. They don't need to ban the product if they can ban the use of the product. Depending on the location, smoking in your home might be prohibited, or in your yard. The newest thing is to ban smoking in cars.

 

[paulitician]

We need a 'War on Fried Foods' too. Right after the 'War on Salt' is over. Way too much 'Fried Food Abuse' going on. The Nanny State no like that.

 

[kiwiman127]

Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat

This week confirmed two important facts -- that health-care costs are the key to our fiscal future, and that even doctors and hospitals agree that substantial efficiency improvements are possible in how medicine is practiced.

The numbers speak for themselves. The Medicare and Social Security trustees' reports released this week show that health-care costs drive our long-term entitlement problem. An example illustrates the point: If costs per enrollee in Medicare and Medicaid grow at the same rate over the next four decades as they have over the past four, those two programs will increase from 5% of GDP today to 20% by 2050. Despite the attention often paid to Social Security, spending on that program rises much more modestly -- from 5% to 6% of GDP -- over the same time period. Over the long run, the deficit impact of every other fiscal policy variable is swamped by the impact of health-care costs.

Spiraling health-care costs are not just some future abstraction, however. Right now, families across America who have health insurance are seeing their take-home pay reduced and their household budgets strained by high costs and spiraling premiums. State and local governments also are feeling this pinch. And the growing weight of health costs on state budgets translates into an inability to make investments in areas such as education, hindering our overall economic growth.
Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat - WSJ.com

Reducing Health Care Costs by Reducing the Need and Demand for Medical Services

MMS: Error

The cost of health care insurance for employees is a huge cost of doing business in America.Recently the Pentagon complained that the cost of health care insurance was cutting into their budget. More and more people are going without health care insurance because of the cost.

So anything that will help businesses individuals/families and even our government to be able to save money which would contribute to the business environment, Americans pocketbook and help reduce this country's deficit isn't bad.

Sometimes people's paranoia about Big Government is just that,,,,,,unfounded paranoia!

 

[paulitician]

Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat

This week confirmed two important facts -- that health-care costs are the key to our fiscal future, and that even doctors and hospitals agree that substantial efficiency improvements are possible in how medicine is practiced.

The numbers speak for themselves. The Medicare and Social Security trustees' reports released this week show that health-care costs drive our long-term entitlement problem. An example illustrates the point: If costs per enrollee in Medicare and Medicaid grow at the same rate over the next four decades as they have over the past four, those two programs will increase from 5% of GDP today to 20% by 2050. Despite the attention often paid to Social Security, spending on that program rises much more modestly -- from 5% to 6% of GDP -- over the same time period. Over the long run, the deficit impact of every other fiscal policy variable is swamped by the impact of health-care costs.

Spiraling health-care costs are not just some future abstraction, however. Right now, families across America who have health insurance are seeing their take-home pay reduced and their household budgets strained by high costs and spiraling premiums. State and local governments also are feeling this pinch. And the growing weight of health costs on state budgets translates into an inability to make investments in areas such as education, hindering our overall economic growth.
Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat - WSJ.com

Reducing Health Care Costs by Reducing the Need and Demand for Medical Services

MMS: Error

The cost of health care insurance for employees is a huge cost of doing business in America.Recently the Pentagon complained that the cost of health care insurance was cutting into their budget. More and more people are going without health care insurance because of the cost.

So anything that will help businesses individuals/families and even our government to be able to save money which would contribute to the business environment, Americans pocketbook and help reduce this country's deficit isn't bad.

Sometimes people's paranoia about Big Government is just that,,,,,,unfounded paranoia!

Yup the ole 'Health Care' excuse. Same ole same ole.

 

[kiwiman127]

Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat

This week confirmed two important facts -- that health-care costs are the key to our fiscal future, and that even doctors and hospitals agree that substantial efficiency improvements are possible in how medicine is practiced.

The numbers speak for themselves. The Medicare and Social Security trustees' reports released this week show that health-care costs drive our long-term entitlement problem. An example illustrates the point: If costs per enrollee in Medicare and Medicaid grow at the same rate over the next four decades as they have over the past four, those two programs will increase from 5% of GDP today to 20% by 2050. Despite the attention often paid to Social Security, spending on that program rises much more modestly -- from 5% to 6% of GDP -- over the same time period. Over the long run, the deficit impact of every other fiscal policy variable is swamped by the impact of health-care costs.

Spiraling health-care costs are not just some future abstraction, however. Right now, families across America who have health insurance are seeing their take-home pay reduced and their household budgets strained by high costs and spiraling premiums. State and local governments also are feeling this pinch. And the growing weight of health costs on state budgets translates into an inability to make investments in areas such as education, hindering our overall economic growth.
Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat - WSJ.com

Reducing Health Care Costs by Reducing the Need and Demand for Medical Services

MMS: Error

The cost of health care insurance for employees is a huge cost of doing business in America.Recently the Pentagon complained that the cost of health care insurance was cutting into their budget. More and more people are going without health care insurance because of the cost.

So anything that will help businesses individuals/families and even our government to be able to save money which would contribute to the business environment, Americans pocketbook and help reduce this country's deficit isn't bad.

Sometimes people's paranoia about Big Government is just that,,,,,,unfounded paranoia!

Yup the ole 'Health Care' excuse. Same ole same ole.

I challenge you to prove my post wrong!

 

[paulitician]

Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat

This week confirmed two important facts -- that health-care costs are the key to our fiscal future, and that even doctors and hospitals agree that substantial efficiency improvements are possible in how medicine is practiced.

The numbers speak for themselves. The Medicare and Social Security trustees' reports released this week show that health-care costs drive our long-term entitlement problem. An example illustrates the point: If costs per enrollee in Medicare and Medicaid grow at the same rate over the next four decades as they have over the past four, those two programs will increase from 5% of GDP today to 20% by 2050. Despite the attention often paid to Social Security, spending on that program rises much more modestly -- from 5% to 6% of GDP -- over the same time period. Over the long run, the deficit impact of every other fiscal policy variable is swamped by the impact of health-care costs.

Spiraling health-care costs are not just some future abstraction, however. Right now, families across America who have health insurance are seeing their take-home pay reduced and their household budgets strained by high costs and spiraling premiums. State and local governments also are feeling this pinch. And the growing weight of health costs on state budgets translates into an inability to make investments in areas such as education, hindering our overall economic growth.
Health Costs Are the Real Deficit Threat - WSJ.com

Reducing Health Care Costs by Reducing the Need and Demand for Medical Services

MMS: Error

The cost of health care insurance for employees is a huge cost of doing business in America.Recently the Pentagon complained that the cost of health care insurance was cutting into their budget. More and more people are going without health care insurance because of the cost.

So anything that will help businesses individuals/families and even our government to be able to save money which would contribute to the business environment, Americans pocketbook and help reduce this country's deficit isn't bad.

Sometimes people's paranoia about Big Government is just that,,,,,,unfounded paranoia!

Yup the ole 'Health Care' excuse. Same ole same ole.

I challenge you to prove my post wrong!

Don't care. You're a silly Socialist Nanny Stater who will defend anything they do. So enjoy your 'War on Salt', but count me out.

 

[kiwiman127]

Well, I'm off to work out. My Blue Cross/Blue Shield pays $25 each month for my membership to the club I go to because it's preventative medicine. Working out has been proven to keep one healthier than doing nothing but sitting in front of a PC posting dribble all day with close to 50 posts daily, like some people here.

 

[paulitician]

Well, I'm off to work out. My Blue Cross/Blue Shield pays $25 each month for my membership to the club I go to because it's preventative medicine. Working out has been proven to keep one healthier than doing nothing but sitting in front of a PC posting dribble all day with close to 50 posts daily, like some people here.

Well, bully for you. Off ya go. But keep your Socialist/Nanny Stater hands off my Salt. Just mind your own business. See Ya.

 

[kiwiman127]

Yup the ole 'Health Care' excuse. Same ole same ole.

I challenge you to prove my post wrong!

Don't care. You're a silly Socialist Nanny Stater who will defend anything they do. So enjoy your 'War on Salt', but count me out.

You don't care because you can't do it, can you? And then there's the old socialist claim, man how lame is that? I've worked in Corporate America all my life and at the same time ran a business, very, very capitalistic, wouldn't you say?
Now why not go start your 56th thread of the day while spending all day on USMB. Don't you have a job or is posting on these boards your job?

 

[paulitician]

I challenge you to prove my post wrong!

Don't care. You're a silly Socialist Nanny Stater who will defend anything they do. So enjoy your 'War on Salt', but count me out.

You don't care because you can't do it, can you? And then there's the old socialist claim, man how lame is that? I've worked in Corporate America all my life and at the same time ran a business, very, very capitalistic, wouldn't you say?
Now why not go start your 56th thread of the day while spending all day on USMB. Don't you have a job or is posting on these boards your job?

Whatever. Just keep your grubby little Socialist/Nanny Stater paws off my Salt.

 

[Decepticon]

What's next? A 'War on Light Bulbs?' Oh wait, they already did that one.

So, let me guess, you are one of those people who are upset that this country sets STANDARDS for some of our stuff?

Yes, just IMAGINE if every lamp manufacturer used a DIFFERENT NON-GOVERNMENTAL mandated standard? Need a bulb for your GE lamp? Why you HAVE to use GE bulbs as others aren't compatible.

Why it would be almost as efficient as having several different sewer companies take the place of your local municipality. Imagine how much better and MORE EFFICIENT 5 private companies could dig up you and your neighbors lawn and set standards for their own private sewer systems. Yup...no waste or inefficiencies to overcome with the private sector.

Tell me, how many phone chargers have you owned in the last 10 years?
How many of them are compatible with each other? How hard would it have been for all players in the industry to get together and create ONE standard power plug? But then they couldn't sell THEIR BRAND of power plug to their captive consumers, could they? OH NOES!

Conservatives especially often think that the public sector is inefficient, but sometimes I'd rather live with inefficiency than be blatantly ripped off of much more of my cash by companies only interested in a buck.

Oh and how much money have you saved by having your light bulbs switched to CFLs? They use one half to one third the energy.
Why don't you complain about someone else that made your life better?



But you didn't even notice, did you?

 

[paulitician]

What's next? A 'War on Light Bulbs?' Oh wait, they already did that one.

So, let me guess, you are one of those people who are upset that this country sets STANDARDS for some of our stuff?

Yes, just IMAGINE if every lamp manufacturer used a DIFFERENT NON-GOVERNMENTAL mandated standard? Need a bulb for your GE lamp? Why you HAVE to use GE bulbs as others aren't compatible.

Why it would be almost as efficient as having several different sewer companies take the place of your local municipality. Imagine how much better and MORE EFFICIENT 5 private companies could dig up you and your neighbors lawn and set standards for their own private sewer systems. Yup...no waste or inefficiencies to overcome with the private sector.

Tell me, how many phone chargers have you owned in the last 10 years?
How many of them are compatible with each other? How hard would it have been for all players in the industry to get together and create ONE standard power plug? But then they couldn't sell THEIR BRAND of power plug to their captive consumers, could they? OH NOES!

Conservatives especially often think that the public sector is inefficient, but sometimes I'd rather live with inefficiency than be blatantly ripped off of much more of my cash by companies only interested in a buck.

Oh and how much money have you saved by having your light bulbs switched to CFLs? They use one half to one third the energy.
Why don't you complain about someone else that made your life better?



But you didn't even notice, did you?

Banning light bulbs is just plain stupid. The Consumer/Citizen should have the right to decide which product they prefer to purchase. You love the new light bulbs and that's cool with me. I promise you i'll never demand they be banned. See how that works? It's called Freedom & Liberty. The Nanny State is out of control these days. So like i said ealier to another Nanny Stater...Keep your grubby little Socialist/Nanny Stater paws off my Salt!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Uh oh, I sense another Socialist/Nanny Stater Ban coming on. Could Salt go the way of your old light bulbs? Stay tuned i guess.


CDC: Bread beats out chips as biggest salt source.

Bread and rolls are the No. 1 source of salt in the American diet, accounting for more than twice as much sodium as salty junk food like potato chips.

That surprising finding comes in a government report released Tuesday that includes a list of the top 10 sources of sodium. Salty snacks actually came in at the bottom of the list compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Potato chips, pretzels, and popcorn - which we think of as the saltiest foods in our diet - are only No. 10," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden.

Breads and rolls aren't really saltier than many of the other foods, but people tend to eat a lot of them, said Mary Cogswell, a CDC senior scientist who co-authored the report.

Salt is the main source of sodium for most people, and sodium increases the risk of high blood pressure, a major cause of heart disease and stroke. Health officials say most Americans get too much salt, mostly from processed and restaurant foods - not added from the salt shaker.

Experts have known that the sodium in breads and certain other foods can add up, but even CDC officials were amazed that just 10 foods are responsible for 44 percent of the sodium consumed.

"It's possible to eat a whole bunch of sodium without it seeming salty," noted John Hayes, an assistant professor of food science at Penn State, who was not involved in the report.

According to the CDC, breads and rolls account for about 7 percent of the salt that the average American eats in a day. Next on the list: cold cuts and cured meats; pizza; fresh and processed poultry; soups; fast-food hamburgers and sandwiches and cheese.

Read More:
News from The Associated Press
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Sorry, where does it say anything about banning salt?

 

[paulitician]

Uh oh, I sense another Socialist/Nanny Stater Ban coming on. Could Salt go the way of your old light bulbs? Stay tuned i guess.


CDC: Bread beats out chips as biggest salt source.

Bread and rolls are the No. 1 source of salt in the American diet, accounting for more than twice as much sodium as salty junk food like potato chips.

That surprising finding comes in a government report released Tuesday that includes a list of the top 10 sources of sodium. Salty snacks actually came in at the bottom of the list compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Potato chips, pretzels, and popcorn - which we think of as the saltiest foods in our diet - are only No. 10," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden.

Breads and rolls aren't really saltier than many of the other foods, but people tend to eat a lot of them, said Mary Cogswell, a CDC senior scientist who co-authored the report.

Salt is the main source of sodium for most people, and sodium increases the risk of high blood pressure, a major cause of heart disease and stroke. Health officials say most Americans get too much salt, mostly from processed and restaurant foods - not added from the salt shaker.

Experts have known that the sodium in breads and certain other foods can add up, but even CDC officials were amazed that just 10 foods are responsible for 44 percent of the sodium consumed.

"It's possible to eat a whole bunch of sodium without it seeming salty," noted John Hayes, an assistant professor of food science at Penn State, who was not involved in the report.

According to the CDC, breads and rolls account for about 7 percent of the salt that the average American eats in a day. Next on the list: cold cuts and cured meats; pizza; fresh and processed poultry; soups; fast-food hamburgers and sandwiches and cheese.

Read More:
News from The Associated Press
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Sorry, where does it say anything about banning salt?

It doesn't. I never claimed it did.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Uh oh, I sense another Socialist/Nanny Stater Ban coming on. Could Salt go the way of your old light bulbs? Stay tuned i guess.


CDC: Bread beats out chips as biggest salt source.

Bread and rolls are the No. 1 source of salt in the American diet, accounting for more than twice as much sodium as salty junk food like potato chips.

That surprising finding comes in a government report released Tuesday that includes a list of the top 10 sources of sodium. Salty snacks actually came in at the bottom of the list compiled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Potato chips, pretzels, and popcorn - which we think of as the saltiest foods in our diet - are only No. 10," said CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden.

Breads and rolls aren't really saltier than many of the other foods, but people tend to eat a lot of them, said Mary Cogswell, a CDC senior scientist who co-authored the report.

Salt is the main source of sodium for most people, and sodium increases the risk of high blood pressure, a major cause of heart disease and stroke. Health officials say most Americans get too much salt, mostly from processed and restaurant foods - not added from the salt shaker.

Experts have known that the sodium in breads and certain other foods can add up, but even CDC officials were amazed that just 10 foods are responsible for 44 percent of the sodium consumed.

"It's possible to eat a whole bunch of sodium without it seeming salty," noted John Hayes, an assistant professor of food science at Penn State, who was not involved in the report.

According to the CDC, breads and rolls account for about 7 percent of the salt that the average American eats in a day. Next on the list: cold cuts and cured meats; pizza; fresh and processed poultry; soups; fast-food hamburgers and sandwiches and cheese.

Read More:
News from The Associated Press
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

Sorry, where does it say anything about banning salt?

It doesn't. I never claimed it did.

Uh oh, I sense another Socialist/Nanny Stater Ban coming on. Could Salt go the way of your old light bulbs? Stay tuned i guess.

Oh, OK, you're just whining like a bitch for no reason, got it.

 

[paulitician]

Nanny State terms like "Salt Abuse" are pretty funny, but also pretty disturbing. The term 'Salt Abuse' makes one think 'Drug Abuse.' And this is done intentionally.

 

[paulitician]

Sorry, where does it say anything about banning salt?

It doesn't. I never claimed it did.

Uh oh, I sense another Socialist/Nanny Stater Ban coming on. Could Salt go the way of your old light bulbs? Stay tuned i guess.

Oh, OK, you're just whining like a bitch for no reason, got it.

Whatever dipshit. Why don't you go pussy-fart in another thread?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

The term 'Salt Abuse' makes one think 'Drug Abuse.'.

Sure, if one is stupid and doesn't know the difference between the words "drug" and "salt"

Are you stupid?

I'm sorry you think stupid things, but do you have to whine to us about it?