Myth of Republican fiscal responsibility

[Oddball]

Hence the term "first round"

Nice try at covering for your boy there Dude...but how does one issue a "second round" of tax cuts when you have brought your country into two wars?

GOP.....Party of Fiscal Responsibility

Where were those cuts touted as a way to pay for the wars? Who made that purely asinine assertion?

C'mon...Dazzle us.

Come on Dude...try to keep up

The thread is about "Fiscal Responsibility"....you know, paying your way

Show us how responsible it is to cut taxes after you have started two wars

The tax cuts and paying for the wars are mutually exclusive, as the money for the wars was borrowed from the Chinese rather than as an on-budget expense.

Therefore the "tax-cuts-to-pay-for-the-war-" blabbering point, which you invoked, is just that...Blabber.

While fiscal irresponsibility of republicans is given, making up screwy non sequiturs as a way to squawk about it does nothing for the left's credibility, in either the areas of fiscal responsibility or being rooted in fact.

 

[Bfgrn]

Nice try at deflection, Dude

Bush's "timid" tax cuts would have financed the war. Instead he hid the cost of the war from the budget

Pure nonsense.

Shrubbie's first round tax cuts were passed prior to 9/11™ and waaaaay in advance of the Afghanistan and Iraq debacles.

The buffoonish claim that they were touted as a way to pay for the wars is...well...buffoonish.

Hey Jethro, try to keep up. RW is not claiming the Bush regime touted tax cuts as a WAY to pay for the war. He is saying the revenues LOST because of the Bush tax cuts WOULD HAVE PAID FOR the war. It may not be totally accurate, but is is surly much more reality based than WHAT the Bush regime DID say...

Hawks Didn't See What Was Coming in Iraq

In the world of nature, hawks are renowned for their keen eyesight. But the hawks on Iraq policy have not displayed that quality of their avian models. Indeed, they have failed to see the most obvious pitfalls of their strategy from day one.

Take their prediction that the Iraq mission would be, in the words of Kenneth Adelman, former head of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, a "cake walk." It has proven to be anything but.

Then there was Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz's prediction last spring that Iraqi oil revenues would pay all the costs of reconstructing the country. Instead, we have already spent nearly $20 billion in reconstruction aid -- with no end in sight.

Hawks Didn't See What Was Coming in Iraq | Ted Galen Carpenter | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

 

[Oddball]

Leftwinger seemed to make that absurd connection, to wit:

Are you implying that starting two wars and cutting taxes to pay for them is not fiscally responsible?

Fool.

 

[Toro]

The only way that tax cuts "cost" anything is if you presume that the money belongs to the gubmint first.

That dog don't hunt.

Semantics.

If somebody cuts your salary, it costs you. The money would have been there had there been no tax cuts.

It costs the Treasury if they don't cut spending. They didn't cut spending. Hence, the tax cuts cost the Treasury $1.5-$2 trillion.

And BTW, interest on the debt is a direct cost borne by the taxpayer and all holders of US dollars.

 

[Oddball]

Semantics is how the statist manipulates and destroys the language. Both Orwell and Rand proved that in spades.

It's not the fault of the taxpayer that gubmint spends too much..."Tax cuts cost..." removes the responsibility of their overspending and basically blames the taxpayer for being stingy.

 

[Toro]

Semantics is how the statist manipulates and destroys the language. Both Orwell and Rand proved that in spades.

It's not the fault of the taxpayer that gubmint spends too much..."Tax cuts cost..." removes the responsibility of their overspending and basically blames the taxpayer for being stingy.

Actually, it is the fault of the taxpayer. Most government money spent flows back to the taxpayer. That's why the Republicans don't talk about cutting spending for SS, Medicare or defense, which is 75% of the federal budget. You can talk about cutting wages for government workers and "eliminating waste" - both probably necessary - but it would merely be a drop in the bucket.

 

[Oddball]

I'm not going to stand for blaming the customer.

Politicians get elected to make tough decisions, too...One of those decisions is telling people "no".

 

[Truthmatters]

Republicans spend more then democrats.

That is a fact.

Democrats are better fiscally than republicans.


To pretend the oppisite is true is lying to yourself.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What's the Exit Strategy for the War on Poverty?

 

[Truthmatters]

Stop allowing the corps to rape the American people

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stop allowing the corps to rape the American people

Corpse men?

What?

What are you babbling about?

 

[Oddball]

Stop allowing the corps to rape the American people

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Stop allowing the corps to rape the American people

Her stupidity is a hard hobbit to break

Corpse men? What?

 

[Oddball]

 

[Gunny]

Semantics is how the statist manipulates and destroys the language. Both Orwell and Rand proved that in spades.

It's not the fault of the taxpayer that gubmint spends too much..."Tax cuts cost..." removes the responsibility of their overspending and basically blames the taxpayer for being stingy.

The leftoid idiots still in this thread perpetrating propaganda?

The smear machine never quits.

 

[Truthmatters]

The corps gave us this finacial mess and a huge oil spill and some idiots still dont get who it is raping them.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The corps gave us this finacial mess and a huge oil spill and some idiots still dont get who it is raping them.

Did you major in dumb?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Semantics is how the statist manipulates and destroys the language. Both Orwell and Rand proved that in spades.

It's not the fault of the taxpayer that gubmint spends too much..."Tax cuts cost..." removes the responsibility of their overspending and basically blames the taxpayer for being stingy.

Because they want you to believe that the federal government and the US economy are the same thing and based on what I read here and elsewhere they've fooled a good portion of the population

 

[Oddball]

Semantics is how the statist manipulates and destroys the language. Both Orwell and Rand proved that in spades.

It's not the fault of the taxpayer that gubmint spends too much..."Tax cuts cost..." removes the responsibility of their overspending and basically blames the taxpayer for being stingy.

The leftoid idiots still in this thread perpetrating propaganda?

The smear machine never quits.

Well, I am talking to Toro there.

I still have that awful habit of dealing with gentlemanly gentleman, no matter how terribly misguided, in a gentlemanly manner.

 

[Oddball]

The corps gave us this finacial mess and a huge oil spill and some idiots still dont get who it is raping them.

You're like a pithy mascale...Brevity is the soul of incomprehensibility.