Mulvaney Admits Quid Pro Quo In Trump Ukraine Call, Says ‘Get Over It’

[Jitss617]

What a pity you can't answer the question I asked, comrade.

Jitss617 is a democrat?

Used to be. I walked away

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

This is tiresome. The QPQ was for corruption and not for investigation of the Bidens. QPQ for corruption is perfectly legal and practiced all the time. The OP is either an idiot or a troll.

 

[Jitss617]

Now you don’t want to stop foreign interference?

How does identifying a purported hack that took place 3 years ago, or a purported quid pro quo from 3 years ago about a prosecutor who's no longer a prosecutor, a vice president who's no longer a vice president, or said VP's son who no longer works in Ukraine .... stopping interference?

If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference, wouldn't he express even some interest in looking for currently ongoing interference and corruption??

Oh that’s easy.. He’s covering all international interference

You see you can’t have it both ways lol

What a pity you can't answer the question I asked, comrade.

Your question was a hypothetical I don’t answer hypotheticals

You clearly don't know what hypothetical means if you think my question was hypothetical. Learn English, comrade.

Ditto

 

[Uncensored2008]

The acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted on Thursday that President Donald Trump withheld foreign aid in order to get Ukraine’s help in the U.S. election.

“We do that all the time with foreign policy,” Mulvaney responded when a reporter pointed out that withholding funding from Ukraine “unless the investigation into the Democrats’ server happens” is a “quid pro quo.”

“Get over it,” he added later. “There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy. ... That is going to happen. Elections have consequences.”

Mulvaney Acknowledges Quid Pro Quo In Trump Ukraine Call, Says ‘Get Over It’

So, Mulvaney admits there was a quid pro quo. Get over it, he says. Sounds like he is trying to normalize criminal behavior.

President Trump asked for Ukrainian help in resolving the problems with collusion in the 2016 election. Ukraine's previous regime was colluding with the Democrats and almost fixed the 2016 election for Trump's adversary.

Not good.

But they've had regime change in Ukraine, and the new President is interesting in rooting out Liberal Corruption.

Is that why they hacked and released the DNC's emails, cultist? To hurt Trump? What a goofball.

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Now you don’t want to stop foreign interference?

How does identifying a purported hack that took place 3 years ago, or a purported quid pro quo from 3 years ago about a prosecutor who's no longer a prosecutor, a vice president who's no longer a vice president, or said VP's son who no longer works in Ukraine .... stopping interference?

If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference, wouldn't he express even some interest in looking for currently ongoing interference and corruption??

Oh that’s easy.. He’s covering all international interference

You see you can’t have it both ways lol

What a pity you can't answer the question I asked, comrade.

Your question was a hypothetical I don’t answer hypotheticals

You clearly don't know what hypothetical means if you think my question was hypothetical. Learn English, comrade.

I bet he knows what QE is. LOL. You don’t.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted on Thursday that President Donald Trump withheld foreign aid in order to get Ukraine’s help in the U.S. election.

“We do that all the time with foreign policy,” Mulvaney responded when a reporter pointed out that withholding funding from Ukraine “unless the investigation into the Democrats’ server happens” is a “quid pro quo.”

“Get over it,” he added later. “There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy. ... That is going to happen. Elections have consequences.”

Mulvaney Acknowledges Quid Pro Quo In Trump Ukraine Call, Says ‘Get Over It’

So, Mulvaney admits there was a quid pro quo. Get over it, he says. Sounds like he is trying to normalize criminal behavior.

President Trump asked for Ukrainian help in resolving the problems with collusion in the 2016 election. Ukraine's previous regime was colluding with the Democrats and almost fixed the 2016 election for Trump's adversary.

Not good.

But they've had regime change in Ukraine, and the new President is interesting in rooting out Liberal Corruption.

Is that why they hacked and released the DNC's emails, cultist? To hurt Trump? What a goofball.

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

CallIng Faun stupid is like calling the Sun hot.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You clearly don't know what hypothetical means if you think my question was hypothetical. Learn English, comrade.

I get that you're a pathological liar, but you're really stupid:

"If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference, wouldn't he express even some interest in looking for currently ongoing interference and corruption??"

You are saying that is NOT hypothetical? You posit (from one of the hate sites that programs you) a hypothesis that "If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference" (which is the logical fallacy of a loaded question) and then are STUPID enough to claim it is NOT hypothetical?



What fucking retard.

You're a hack with zero integrity, but you're also really, really stupid.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What a pity you can't answer the question I asked, comrade.

Jitss617 is a democrat?

Used to be. I walked away

In that case, you don't go by "Comrade" anymore.

Fawn is a bit slow. Okay, Fawn is REALLY slow, mentally retarded in fact....

 

[Uncensored2008]

This is tiresome. The QPQ was for corruption and not for investigation of the Bidens. QPQ for corruption is perfectly legal and practiced all the time. The OP is either an idiot or a troll.

Or both!

 

[Faun]

This is tiresome. The QPQ was for corruption and not for investigation of the Bidens. QPQ for corruption is perfectly legal and practiced all the time. The OP is either an idiot or a troll.

Great, so show what corruption trump asked Zelensky to look into other than the Bidens and the DNC server.....

 

[Faun]

The acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted on Thursday that President Donald Trump withheld foreign aid in order to get Ukraine’s help in the U.S. election.

“We do that all the time with foreign policy,” Mulvaney responded when a reporter pointed out that withholding funding from Ukraine “unless the investigation into the Democrats’ server happens” is a “quid pro quo.”

“Get over it,” he added later. “There’s going to be political influence in foreign policy. ... That is going to happen. Elections have consequences.”

Mulvaney Acknowledges Quid Pro Quo In Trump Ukraine Call, Says ‘Get Over It’

So, Mulvaney admits there was a quid pro quo. Get over it, he says. Sounds like he is trying to normalize criminal behavior.

President Trump asked for Ukrainian help in resolving the problems with collusion in the 2016 election. Ukraine's previous regime was colluding with the Democrats and almost fixed the 2016 election for Trump's adversary.

Not good.

But they've had regime change in Ukraine, and the new President is interesting in rooting out Liberal Corruption.

Is that why they hacked and released the DNC's emails, cultist? To hurt Trump? What a goofball.

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

Prove it, insane poster....

 

[Uncensored2008]

[Great, so show what corruption trump asked Zelensky to look into other than the Bidens and the DNC server.....

Why?

I thought getting to the bottom of the Russian interference into the 2016 election (Crowdstrike and the Clinton server were a big part) was super important. You Communists lied that that was the reason for the Grand Inquisition under Mewler. Are you now being programmed by the hate sites that it never mattered?

 

[Uncensored2008]

President Trump asked for Ukrainian help in resolving the problems with collusion in the 2016 election. Ukraine's previous regime was colluding with the Democrats and almost fixed the 2016 election for Trump's adversary.

Not good.

But they've had regime change in Ukraine, and the new President is interesting in rooting out Liberal Corruption.

Is that why they hacked and released the DNC's emails, cultist? To hurt Trump? What a goofball.

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

Prove it, insane poster....

Prove what? That you have no integrity and cannot read a simple sentence? Already done.

You're as stupid as you are dishonest. Fawn.

 

[Faun]

You clearly don't know what hypothetical means if you think my question was hypothetical. Learn English, comrade.

I get that you're a pathological liar, but you're really stupid:

"If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference, wouldn't he express even some interest in looking for currently ongoing interference and corruption??"

You are saying that is NOT hypothetical? You posit (from one of the hate sites that programs you) a hypothesis that "If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference" (which is the logical fallacy of a loaded question) and then are STUPID enough to claim it is NOT hypothetical?



What fucking retard.

You're a hack with zero integrity, but you're also really, really stupid.

It's not hypothetical, fruitcake, because trump never asked Ukraine to look into any corruption other than the two 3 year old purported cases I mentioned. But that's ok, you're a conservative, no one really expects you to comprehend anything above 'See Spot Run.'

 

[Faun]

Is that why they hacked and released the DNC's emails, cultist? To hurt Trump? What a goofball.

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

Prove it, insane poster....

Prove what? That you have no integrity and cannot read a simple sentence? Already done.

You're as stupid as you are dishonest. Fawn.

No, fruitcake, prove your claim. Obviously you can't or you would have

 

[Uncensored2008]

You clearly don't know what hypothetical means if you think my question was hypothetical. Learn English, comrade.

I get that you're a pathological liar, but you're really stupid:

"If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference, wouldn't he express even some interest in looking for currently ongoing interference and corruption??"

You are saying that is NOT hypothetical? You posit (from one of the hate sites that programs you) a hypothesis that "If Trump were truly concerned with rooting out interference" (which is the logical fallacy of a loaded question) and then are STUPID enough to claim it is NOT hypothetical?



What fucking retard.

You're a hack with zero integrity, but you're also really, really stupid.

It's not hypothetical, fruitcake, because trump never asked Ukraine to look into any corruption other than the two 3 year old purported cases I mentioned. But that's ok, you're a conservative, no one really expects you to comprehend anything above 'See Spot Run.'

What fucking retard.

You should have stuck it out all the way through second grade.

Seriously...

 

[Uncensored2008]

No one was proven to have "hacked" the DNC server at all. Law Enforcement never looked at the server, only CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit.

As far as Wikileaks is concerned, they did release certain DNC emails. But Mr. Assange admitted the Russians weren't involved, it was most likely a Whistleblower in the DNC. Perhaps one that was killed in a whacking made to look like a "botched robbery"

Crowdstrike is not a "Ukrainian outfut." You cultists are fucking brain damaged.

Learn to read Comrade.

Your reading comprehension is like your integrity - nonexistent.

"CrowdStrike, a Ukraine linked outfit."

I get that you're stupid, but I think that your dishonesty was at work this time, psychopath.

Prove it, insane poster....

Prove what? That you have no integrity and cannot read a simple sentence? Already done.

You're as stupid as you are dishonest. Fawn.

No, fruitcake, prove your claim. Obviously you can't or you would have

My claim is that you have no integrity and cannot read a simple sentence.

Already proven, stupid.

 

[Dana7360]

"Mulvaney denied, however, that investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden were factored into considerations about releasing military aid to Ukraine."

THAT MEANS IT NEVER HAPPENED!

Hey fucking idiot, just because Trump's lackey said something DOES NOT MEAN IT'S TRUE.

Bidens were SPECIFICALLY brought up on the call as a recieprocating opportunity for Ukraine for generous American aid.

Yeah.....with Trump in that phone call mentioning the Bidens 3 times and Crowdstrike only once.....and Mulveney explicitly admitting that the funding to the Ukraine was held up to get them to conduct corruption investigations.

And the Ukraine completely and utterly getting that message:

Here's the Ukraine's summary of the call with Trump BEFORE the whistleblower complaint was publicly known.

"Donald Trump expressed his conviction that the new Ukrainian government will be able to quickly improve Ukraine’s image and complete the investigation of corruption cases that have held back cooperation between the Ukraine and the United States."

There were only two cases mentioned in the call: Crowdstrike once. And the Bidens 3 times.

We have explicit admission by Trump officials of the quid quo pro.

Man you guys can spin.

Here is what Trump said about Crowdstrike and the "server" and the origins of the Mueller investigation:

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.

This was all stated first. President Zelenskyy then had a lengthy reply on how the steps they were taking to curb corruption. Later on Trump said the following:

Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that.

Then, as almost a side note, Trump said the following:

The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

Notice the difference. Yes, he did mention Biden's name 3 times and Crowdstrike only once, but that has nothing to do with the actual content, just the structure of the sentence. He was clearly adamant about the overall corruption in Ukraine and the Mueller probe. Biden's name came up because if you are talking about corruption, it is kind of hard to ignore with his son working for the company that the former prosecutor said he was investigating.

Adamant about overal corruption? WHERE? The ONLY concerns he had were about his political opposition - Crowdstrike who he thinks had alot to do with Russia investigation and Biden who was part of Obama administration and is his foremost contender for 2020 election.

There is not a single word from Trump in that call about the general corruption problems in Ukraine.

Trump was asked MULTIPLE TIMES by the reporters to name ANYONE ELSE who is not on his personal political shit list that he wanted Ukraine to investigate. Our dear Corruption Fighter still can't name anyone.

If you read the summary of the call, we never got there full transcript, you will see that the word corruption was never used at all by trump.

This was never about corruption.

This was about getting lies about Biden and his son.

How low does a person have to be to go after his opponent's child? And what does a parent's child's actions have to do with the parent? So we are now making families guilty for the actions of one member of the family?

If all trump can do is use Biden's son's actions against Biden, then Biden must not have anything that he did himself that trump can use against him.

The truth of all this, is that trump was trying to add to the Ukraine corruption. He was trying to get friends of rick perry onto the board of the state energy company. Basically trying to get some cronies from Houston to take over the Ukraine's state energy company.

That is corruption.

I find it very ironic that the most corrupt president in the history of our nation is running around screaming about corruption. LOL. The republican projection. Accuse your opponent of the crimes the republicans are guilty of committing.

This whole thing stinks. People need to be held accountable for their crimes.

 

[edthecynic]

This is tiresome. The QPQ was for corruption and not for investigation of the Bidens. QPQ for corruption is perfectly legal and practiced all the time. The OP is either an idiot or a troll.

Great, so show what corruption trump asked Zelensky to look into other than the Bidens and the DNC server.....

Even better just show Tramp using the word "CORRUPTION" even once in the phone call!!!!!

 

[Dana7360]

Hey fucking idiot, just because Trump's lackey said something DOES NOT MEAN IT'S TRUE.

Bidens were SPECIFICALLY brought up on the call as a recieprocating opportunity for Ukraine for generous American aid.

Yeah.....with Trump in that phone call mentioning the Bidens 3 times and Crowdstrike only once.....and Mulveney explicitly admitting that the funding to the Ukraine was held up to get them to conduct corruption investigations.

And the Ukraine completely and utterly getting that message:

Here's the Ukraine's summary of the call with Trump BEFORE the whistleblower complaint was publicly known.

"Donald Trump expressed his conviction that the new Ukrainian government will be able to quickly improve Ukraine’s image and complete the investigation of corruption cases that have held back cooperation between the Ukraine and the United States."

There were only two cases mentioned in the call: Crowdstrike once. And the Bidens 3 times.

We have explicit admission by Trump officials of the quid quo pro.

Man you guys can spin.

Here is what Trump said about Crowdstrike and the "server" and the origins of the Mueller investigation:

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you saw yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it's very important that you do it if that's possible.

This was all stated first. President Zelenskyy then had a lengthy reply on how the steps they were taking to curb corruption. Later on Trump said the following:

Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that.

Then, as almost a side note, Trump said the following:

The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.

Notice the difference. Yes, he did mention Biden's name 3 times and Crowdstrike only once, but that has nothing to do with the actual content, just the structure of the sentence. He was clearly adamant about the overall corruption in Ukraine and the Mueller probe. Biden's name came up because if you are talking about corruption, it is kind of hard to ignore with his son working for the company that the former prosecutor said he was investigating.

Adamant about overal corruption? WHERE? The ONLY concerns he had were about his political opposition - Crowdstrike who he thinks had alot to do with Russia investigation and Biden who was part of Obama administration and is his foremost contender for 2020 election.

There is not a single word from Trump in that call about the general corruption problems in Ukraine.

Trump was asked MULTIPLE TIMES by the reporters to name ANYONE ELSE who is not on his personal political shit list that he wanted Ukraine to investigate. Our dear Corruption Fighter still can't name anyone.

Crowdstrikes acutally the unwitting punchline. Mulwhacky actually trotted out to the media that Crowdstrike was a legitmate reason to hold up aid. I mean we all know even Romney won't vote to remove Trump, but damn, the WH might want a plausible lie. LOL

We're at the stage where the White House starts to argue that crimes aren't crimes. Trump follows a predictable pattern:

Step One: Suppress evidence behind the scenes and try and cover up the event: Ordering the creation of fake documents, directing staff to lie, trying to hide information on secret servers, order that investigators be fired, etc.

Step Two: When info is leaked to the press, insist its all 'fake news': Trump's reaction to payments to Stormy Daniels, numerous connections between his campaign and Russia, to the whistleblower complaint and the call to the Ukraine.

Step Three: When additional sources corroborate info, admit to it but insist that it lacked a key element of criminality: Admitting to soliciting the Ukrainian government to open investigations into the bidens, for example....but insisting that there was no quid quo pro. Or payments to Stormy Daniels days before his campaign had nothing to do with his campaign. Or insisting he has the 'absolute right' to do things like order his people to create fake documents and lie to investigators.

Step Four: Admit to the criminal conduct, but insist criminal conduct isn't a crime: "It happens all the time....get over it".

Step Five: Repeat. This time with an even more serious and brazen crime.

There is no requirement of a quid pro quo for what trump did to be criminal.

Election law is very clear. No one can solicit anything of value from a foreign nation. Period.

Just asking the president of the Ukraine to do those investigations was illegal.

The fact that there was a quid pro quo just added to the crimes and impeachable offenses.