Multiculturalism is a failure

[Mr.Fitnah]

Spin it any way you want to suni man.

The only spinning going on in this thread Syrenn.

Is your inflammatory posts based on zero facts or intellectual substance.

What part pf the bold type do you disagree wit based on scripture ?

Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”


The passage itself can be found in two places. It is on page "39" ( my copy)of the Noble Qur’an translation by Muhammad Khan and distributed by “King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur’an—The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques. It is a footnote to Qur’an 2.190 and is designed to explain Jihad according to Allah as this is the first time the word is used, explaining the concept of jihad as it was taught and used at the time .
And it can be found on page 580 of the Islamic University of Medina’s translation of Sahih al-Bukhari’s Hadith. There it opens Bukhari’s Book of Jihad.

In both cases, the Islamic scholars are condensing Allah’s and Muhammad’s teachings on Jihad to a single paragraph.

 

[Sunni Man]

Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars.

Once again Mr. Fitnuts;

#1) A footnote is just an opinion.

#2) There are only 5 "Pillars of Islam", and Jihad isn't one of them.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars.

Once again Mr. Fitnuts;

#1) A footnote is just an opinion.

#2) There are only 5 "Pillars of Islam", and Jihad isn't one of them.

What part do you disagree wit based on scripture.

Sixth Pillar of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seven pillars of Ismailism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The passage itself can be found in two places. It is on page "39" ( my copy)of the Noble Qur’an translation by Muhammad Khan and distributed by “King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Qur’an—The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques. It is a footnote to Qur’an 2.190 and is designed to explain Jihad according to Allah as this is the first time the word is used, explaining the concept of jihad as it was taught and used at the time .

And it can be found on page 580 of the Islamic University of Medina’s translation of Sahih al-Bukhari’s Hadith. There it opens Bukhari’s Book of Jihad.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Noble Qur’an 2:190 Footnote: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars.

Once again Mr. Fitnuts;

#1) A footnote is just an opinion.

#2) There are only 5 "Pillars of Islam", and Jihad isn't one of them.

You dont have the intellectual chops to offer a scriptural based criticism one way or the other of an opinion?

 

[Sunni Man]

This is from the link you just posted Mr. Fitnuts.

(btw Sunni Islam represents 85-90% of all muslims in the world)

Sixth Pillar of Islam

Sunni Muslims believe there are precisely five Pillars of Islam, and the idea of there being more than five pillars is not a mainstream idea; Sunni leaders have taught that there are only five major pillars of the faith. Traditionalists say that no 6th pillar should be added, because changing the pillars would be altering the religion and its beliefs, and so one who believes that there is a sixth is committing a sin.

Sixth Pillar of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You dont have the intellectual chops to offer a scriptural based criticism one way or the other of an opinion?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

You can shorten prayers do to jihad .
Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives.' (4.95)

Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 44
Narrated Abu Huraira:

A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad (in reward)." He replied, "I do not find such a deed." Then he added, "Can you, while the Muslim fighter is in the battle-field, enter your mosque to perform prayers without cease and fast and never break your fast?" The man said, "But who can do that?" Abu- Huraira added, "The Mujahid (i.e. Muslim fighter) is rewarded even for the footsteps of his horse while it wanders bout (for grazing) tied in a long rope."



Islam Question and Answer - Judging by that which Allaah has revealed

Islam Question and Answer - Should he turn to the human rights organizations to get his rights?
Islam Question and Answer - The kufr of one who rules according to other than what Allaah revealed

Allaah has commanded us to refer matters to His judgement and to establish Sharee‘ah, and He has forbidden us to rule with anything else, as is clear from a number of aayaat in the Qur’aan, such as the aayaat in Soorat al-Maa’idah (5) which discuss ruling according to what Allaah has revealed, and mention the following topics:

The command to rule according to what Allaah has revealed: “And so judge between them by what Allaah has revealed . . .” [aayah 49]

Warning against ruling by other than what Allaah has revealed: “. . . and follow not their vain desires . . .” [aayah 49]

Warning against compromising on any detail of Sharee‘ah, no matter how small: “. . . but beware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allaah has sent down to you . . .” [aayah 49]

Forbidding seeking the ruling of jaahiliyyah, as is expressed in the rhetorical question “Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance?” [aayah 50]

The statement that nobody is better than Allaah to judge: “. . . and who is better in judgement than Allaah for a people who have firm Faith?” [aayah 50]

The statement that whoever does not judge according to what Allaah revealed is a kaafir, a zaalim (oppressor or wrongdoer) and a faasiq (sinner), as Allaah says: “. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon.” [aayah 44]; “. . . And whoever does not judge by that which Allaah has revealed, such are the zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)” [aayah 45]; “. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed (then) such (people) are the faasiqoon (rebellious or disobedient).” [aayah 47].

The statement that it is obligatory for the Muslims to judge according to what Allaah has revealed, even if those who seek their judgement are not Muslim, as Allaah says: “. . . And if you judge, judge with justice between them. . .” [aayah 42]

Islam Question and Answer - Ruling on jihad and kinds of jihad

 

[syrenn]

The reason Europe is having problems is they are doing separate but equal crap.

They dont mix together.

That is why it doesnt work.

Go to New york and take a look there.

It works even though you dont want it to work.

Racists never want it to work.

No you idiot... how fucking dumb and blind are you?

THEY ARE DEMANDING SEPARATE BUT EQUAL

THEY DONT WANT TO MIX TOGETHER

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The reason Europe is having problems is they are doing separate but equal crap.

They dont mix together.

That is why it doesnt work.

Go to New york and take a look there.

It works even though you dont want it to work.

Racists never want it to work.

No you idiot... how fucking dumb and blind are you?

THEY ARE DEMANDING SEPARATE BUT EQUAL

THEY DONT WANT TO MIX TOGETHER

Islam Question and Answer

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I fear for the future of the constitution and the world.

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance that vigilance does not arrive prepackaged and delivered fresh daily on your door step.

It takes effort to know things, it is not emotional but may stir emotion.
Its clinical and honest and requires the ability and courage to judge, to say these principles are good right and worth preserving .

It is wise to discriminate between good and bad right and wrong.

Islam is an ideology that that Muslims believe will bring a replacement for our current system, a system of law and government free of oppression for Muslims.
Islam promotes the belief that by removing distraction from the worship of god mans life will be fulfilled ,that is the reason for burhkas. A valueless virtue.

I do not know how to encourage people to give Islam a fair hearing and report an honest appraisal. Many lack the courage to undertake the challenge to discover for themselves the facts.

I belief the fear of proof is greater then the weight of loathing to go against the ingrained teachings of political correctness.

 

[Tank]

Do you know that the US is a multicultural country?

Are we also a failure in your mind?

As we become less white and more "multicultural", we become more of a failure.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Do you know that the US is a multicultural country?

Are we also a failure in your mind?

As we become less white and more "multicultural", we become more of a failure.

Its about values, not skin color .

 

[Tank]

Different skin colors have different values.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Different skin colors have different values.

You're an idiot .
welcome 2 19

 

[Tank]

Blacks have less value in children and family.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Blacks have less value in children and family.

You're a racist.

 

[American_Jihad]

The Problem With Multiculturalism​

November 29, 2012
By David Solway

Most conservative observers are of the opinion that multiculturalism as it has been understood and practiced is nothing short of a social and economic disaster. And it must be said they are largely, if not entirely, correct. The multicultural project in its contemporary form suffers from two grievous flaws: the filter is too wide, allowing into the country unskilled people who are poorly equipped to participate in a modern, technologically oriented economy and who consequently become a financial burden to the nation, disproportionately swelling the welfare rolls; and, no less critical, many of these immigrant groups import the hatreds, prejudices and conflicts of their countries of origin, sequester themselves with official approval into closed or aggressive enclaves, and often cause violence and disruption in the public life of their new home. (Rape and “grooming” statistics compiled in the U.K. give a dataset that leaves in no doubt the ethnic make-up of the great majority of offenders.)

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The principle holds. Immigration policy in general should be louvered toward the proper criteria of admissibility: capacity to contribute to the life and prosperity of the nation, and willingness to integrate. Anything less produces costs in political dissidence, cultural upheaval and fiscal extortion we are increasingly unable to defray.

The Problem With Multiculturalism

 

[Political Junky]

Multiculturalism sure whuped GOP butt, didn't it?

 

[Old Rocks]

Nothing more iconic than the American cowboy of the Wild West.

Lariat: comes from the word "la riata," Spanish for the rope used by Mexican cowboys to rope steers and bulls.

Rodeo: originated in Spain as a competitive demonstration of certain herding skills and was later exported to Mexico, Canada, Australia and South America.

Buckaroo: derived from "vaquero," Spanish term for men who worked with cattle. Loosely translated, the term literally means cattlemen but later became "cowboys." Those who could not pronounce the Spanish word vaquero settled for "buckaroo." The original cowboys were Spaniards of mixed descent and Native Americans who would later become Mexicans. The job was beneath the Spanish aristocracy.

Chaps: derived from "chaparreras" and "chaparro." Chaparreras referred to the garment worn by cowboys to protect their legs from short scrubby bushes that tore pants up. Chaparro is the Spanish word for "short," which was a reference to those bushes also known as chaparral.

Montana: derived from the Spanish word for mountain.
Nevada: derived from the Spanish word for snow-covered.
Florida: originally called "la florida" by Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de Leon meaning "the flowery land."
California: originated from a Spanish legend about a paradise ruled by Queen Calafia whose land had strange animals and lots of gold. Spanish explorers names the land that would eventually be broken up into modern day California, Baja California, Nevada, Wyoming, Utah and Arizona.
Arizona: dubbed by Spanish explorers but originated from Arizonac for an area known as "small spring." The term was Native American and is traced to the O'odham people who are of Aztecan origin.
Texas: derived from the Caddo term for "friends." The Caddo Nation were allies of different tribal groups who referred to the alliance as "tejas." Spanish explorers applied the term loosely to what would eventually become modern day Texas and portions of Oklahoma, New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming.

Just something to think about before saying that multiculturalism doesn't work.

That's not an example of "multiculturalism" in the sense we are talking about here.....that is actually a good example of cultures absorbing into the American culture...

An example of the "multiculturalism" that we are talking about would be the separatist group "La Raza".....a culture as well as radical group here in the U.S. which advocates Mexicans taking back the southwest part of the U.S....in other words....these people do not want to absorb into the culture of America....they wish to remain separate and apart...

So, you are telling me that the Highland Games are anti-american. One caber headed your way

 

[JakeStarkey]

All of us know that is not true, Sunni Man.

Which is the Advancement of Sharia Law.

Jihad isn't for the advancement of Sharia Law.

Islamic jihad is for defense of muslim land and property.

And is not offensive or pre-emptive.

We both know you are lying.