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Mueller intended for Congress to decide if trump obstructed justice....NOT BARR!
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This is the way it came down...
-Rosenstein made the egg head comment about wearing a wire. trump knew he had him then. He called him in and said either you clear me of Obstruction or your job and your retirement are gone."
-Rosenstein knew Mueller was not going to file on Obstruction....so he waited to obey trump's order
-Barr was approved and when he learned about the deal trump made with Rosenstein....he was so excited he wet his pants after devouring a refrigerator full of chocolate donuts....
- Barr and Rosenstein were NEVER gonna find for Obstruction....
"THE FIX IS IN!"
-Rosenstein made the egg head comment about wearing a wire. trump knew he had him then. He called him in and said either you clear me of Obstruction or your job and your retirement are gone."
-Rosenstein knew Mueller was not going to file on Obstruction....so he waited to obey trump's order
-Barr was approved and when he learned about the deal trump made with Rosenstein....he was so excited he wet his pants after devouring a refrigerator full of chocolate donuts....
- Barr and Rosenstein were NEVER gonna find for Obstruction....
"THE FIX IS IN!"
Ambivalent1
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This is the way it came down...
-Rosenstein made the egg head comment about wearing a wire. trump knew he had him then. He called him in and said either you clear me of Obstruction or your job and your retirement are gone."
-Rosenstein knew Mueller was not going to file on Obstruction....so he waited to obey trump's order
-Barr was approved and when he learned about the deal trump made with Rosenstein....he was so excited he wet his pants after devouring a refrigerator full of chocolate donuts....
- Barr and Rosenstein were NEVER gonna find for Obstruction....
"THE FIX IS IN!"
Did you masturbate to this story?
DJT for Life
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Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...Here is the quote from the Mueller document
Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
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The lying POS needs to be handled!
Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.
Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.
We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.
None of what you write is really correct.
Mueller answered to Barr and only Barr.
Mueller's report is for Barr's eyes only, unless Barr wanted to share it with others.
Congress is not allowed to see the report if Barr doesn't want them to see it, It is confidential to Barr's eyes.
I'm not sure about Jaworski, but Ken Starr was an Independent Prosecutor that reported to Congress along with the AG.
He was instructed to report to Congress at the outset of his appointment. Mueller was a Special Prosecutor that reported
only to the AG. When Mueller testifies before Congress there will be portions that he can give no answers on. Especially
on his own beliefs. Not without permission of the AG.
Barr was the only one who belonged.
"Civics for Dummies" is going fast. Please send me your 19.99 and I'll get your copy in the mail on Monday.
The haters need some time to digest this loss. And, it is a complete victory for Trump. Pelosi and the house will never act to impeach. The house is all bark and no bite. So, Trump is in the clear. It has to be difficult to accept Mueller didn't come through. But, he is not a super hero.
Now that it is over, and Barr is on the case, we can finally look into the failed coup attempt and bring some real criminals to justice!
Now that it is over, and Barr is on the case, we can finally look into the failed coup attempt and bring some real criminals to justice!
/---/ Go for it Libtards --- Make historyCorrect.Here is the quote from the Mueller document
Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
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The lying POS needs to be handled!
It’s the role and responsibility of the people to hold Trump accountable for his actions via the political process – either by impeachment or at the ballot box.
trump needs to be held accountable for his Suborning Perjury....for his fabrication of false evidence....and his violation of federal election laws....!
Voters need to rise up and DEMAND that he does not get away with his criminal acts!
basquebromance
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you know Trump's lying. i know Trump's lying. Trump knows Trump's lying. everybody in America knows Trump's lying. but he just keeps lying!
you know Trump's lying. i know Trump's lying. Trump knows Trump's lying. everybody in America knows Trump's lying. but he just keeps lying!
DJT for Life
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The haters need some time to digest this loss. And, it is a complete victory for Trump. Pelosi and the house will never act to impeach. The house is all bark and no bite. So, Trump is in the clear. It has to be difficult to accept Mueller didn't come through. But, he is not a super hero.
Now that it is over, and Barr is on the case, we can finally look into the failed coup attempt and bring some real criminals to justice!
You're pretty much spot on.
They would be fools to impeach knowing they are not going to win. Mueller left it up to the AG and the AG agreed with Mueller's
closing statement on Obstruction. We cannot conclude that a crime was committed. Game Over at that point. If the Prosecutor
cannot conclude that a crime was committed...that's it.
The Libs are having some conf call on Monday. (For those members that know how to use a telephone). That'll give some clue
what they will do. But I'm waiting to see if Biden does announce on Wednesday. You know the first question he will be asked is...
"Do you support Impeachment?" His answer is going to set the table for him in the General Election, one way or another. If he says
"No" and I believe Warren and others think he will say that. (That's why they have already gone on record wanting impeachment
hearings to begin to grab the far left base). If he tries to give some political, chicken-shit response, he will remain what Ed Rollins,
Reagan's Campaign Chairman, always said about Biden. He's an empty glass.
They need to be preparing for Horowitz's report and how to respond to that. If they think beating a dead horse is going to help them
garner Independent votes, from a damaging Horowitz report, they are sadly mistaken. Not only will Trump win another 4 years, but the
GOP will reclaim the House.
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you know Trump's lying. i know Trump's lying. Trump knows Trump's lying. everybody in America knows Trump's lying. but he just keeps lying!
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Take the efforts that trump made to stop the investigation....and apply it to any other person in this country and THEY ARE GUILTY.
Barr cooked this as a Sham from Day One...
I disagree. Comey has stated on record that deleting 33,000 e-mails under subpoena, destroying mobile devices with a hammer, creating secret servers and using it to send classified e-mails and then using bleachbit to wipe that server clean was extremely careless, but no reasonable prosecutor would take those kinds of actions to trial. So, I think Trump is definitely in the clear based on prior FBI/DOJ determinations.
lantern2814
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Gawd almighty, are you disingenuous, to say the least!And yet Mueller, with grand-jury powers, choose NOT TO INDICT. Why would that be? No evidence to support the charge? Naw that couldn't be it.... Could it?Here's the honest to God, thing....At the end of all that they said "Sorry, there was NO Robbery after all". But we dont like it you got angry during the three years and lashed out verbally. President Trump behaved better than most would.
the report does not say there was no robbery at all....
that is what the right wing media is saying to you, what the president is brainwashing you with....
Just TRY to read some of the two reports, even if you can not take the time to read it all.... (I don't work, and I am anal when it comes to researching things and getting the facts, thus, I just do it... yet I certainly can understand that you want to read the report as much as going to the Dentist...) but just pick a couple of things to read about in it, and you will see that everything you are being told, is a lie.
Exactly!
trump was NOT EXONERATED
trump did NOT fully cooperate with Mueller
trump lied his ASS off
trump told people to lie
trump fabricated evidence
trump intimidated witnesses
The report says all this and Barr says NO OBSTRUCTION.
You can bet your ass if you or I did all those things in an attempt to stop an investigation....we would be guilty!
You folks are so pathetic. If Mueller had the goods, he sure as hell would have perp-walked Trump from the oval office. He did not. So its all bull shit, all the time from you retards.
Mueller's FAILURE to indict is evidence he didn't have a case and HE KNEW IT! Barr simply agreed with Mueller's choice to not indict and you idiots are all butt hurt..
Mueller could NOT INDICT HIM, the Grand Jury COULD NOT INDICT him, because he is a sitting President.... Mueller explains this in the report.
It is NOT that he did not have a case, or evidence.... He had 10 instances, that he spelled out one by one, that could be obstruction.... so he passed a road map, for Congress to follow, for impeachment inquiries... because the Justice Department Rules STATE that a President can NOT be indicted.... EVEN IF they had all the evidence in the world that a President committed a crime.... the step to follow, according to the Justice dept rule, is for Congress to impeach him from office before indicting a president for his alleged crimes, or for the President to be out of office due to his term ending, before they can indict him for alleged crimes.
IGNORANCE is not an excuse to pass along these lies that you are spreading... seriously!!!!!
Just stop lying! Your ignorance would be funny if you weren't so pathetically trying to spin things that didn't happen. See moron, thinking about doing something you did not do is NOT obstruction. Trump had EVERY right to fire Mueller or stop the investigation. He fully cooperated, unlike Obozo and Hillary. All your crying about "even if they had evidence" is a deflection fom the FACT that they didn't have any. Trump cooperated FULLY you blatant ignorant LIAR! Poor baby, your saint Mueller failed and you're reduced to the whining, ignorant, lying little hack we know you to be. Bottom line:YOU LOST AGAIN!
Gawd almighty, are you disingenuous, to say the least!And yet Mueller, with grand-jury powers, choose NOT TO INDICT. Why would that be? No evidence to support the charge? Naw that couldn't be it.... Could it?Here's the honest to God, thing....At the end of all that they said "Sorry, there was NO Robbery after all". But we dont like it you got angry during the three years and lashed out verbally. President Trump behaved better than most would.
the report does not say there was no robbery at all....
that is what the right wing media is saying to you, what the president is brainwashing you with....
Just TRY to read some of the two reports, even if you can not take the time to read it all.... (I don't work, and I am anal when it comes to researching things and getting the facts, thus, I just do it... yet I certainly can understand that you want to read the report as much as going to the Dentist...) but just pick a couple of things to read about in it, and you will see that everything you are being told, is a lie.
Exactly!
trump was NOT EXONERATED
trump did NOT fully cooperate with Mueller
trump lied his ASS off
trump told people to lie
trump fabricated evidence
trump intimidated witnesses
The report says all this and Barr says NO OBSTRUCTION.
You can bet your ass if you or I did all those things in an attempt to stop an investigation....we would be guilty!
You folks are so pathetic. If Mueller had the goods, he sure as hell would have perp-walked Trump from the oval office. He did not. So its all bull shit, all the time from you retards.
Mueller's FAILURE to indict is evidence he didn't have a case and HE KNEW IT! Barr simply agreed with Mueller's choice to not indict and you idiots are all butt hurt..
Mueller could NOT INDICT HIM, the Grand Jury COULD NOT INDICT him, because he is a sitting President.... Mueller explains this in the report.
It is NOT that he did not have a case, or evidence.... He had 10 instances, that he spelled out one by one, that could be obstruction.... so he passed a road map, for Congress to follow, for impeachment inquiries... because the Justice Department Rules STATE that a President can NOT be indicted.... EVEN IF they had all the evidence in the world that a President committed a crime.... the step to follow, according to the Justice dept rule, is for Congress to impeach him from office before indicting a president for his alleged crimes, or for the President to be out of office due to his term ending, before they can indict him for alleged crimes.
IGNORANCE is not an excuse to pass along these lies that you are spreading... seriously!!!!!
Just stop lying! Your ignorance would be funny if you weren't so pathetically trying to spin things that didn't happen. See moron, thinking about doing something you did not do is NOT obstruction. Trump had EVERY right to fire Mueller or stop the investigation. He fully cooperated, unlike Obozo and Hillary. All your crying about "even if they had evidence" is a deflection fom the FACT that they didn't have any. Trump cooperated FULLY you blatant ignorant LIAR! Poor baby, your saint Mueller failed and you're reduced to the whining, ignorant, lying little hack we know you to be. Bottom line:YOU LOST AGAIN!
Trump is in the clear. The anger is understandable. Next we will tell them the Easter Bunny won't be coming this Sunday.
basquebromance
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"The reason I’ve never supported @realDonaldTrump is right in front us with the Mueller Report. It’s behavior not fit for a president." - Kasich on CNN
"The reason I’ve never supported @realDonaldTrump is right in front us with the Mueller Report. It’s behavior not fit for a president." - Kasich on CNN
Next you will tell me Jeff Flake and Romney are pissed off.
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I have not been following details. How does Barr's decision prevent Congress from opening their own investigations and proceeding with impeachment? I did not think they needed a "crime" in order to impeach. Is that what you are thinking? That since Barr did not find a crime, Congress no longer has a leg to stand on?Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...Here is the quote from the Mueller document
Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________
The lying POS needs to be handled!
Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.
Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.
We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.
Please read the statement from Mueller....he is, as the Constitution allows, giving Congress the right to decide if trump obstructed justice...Barr steps in and rules otherwise....
The report was a report to Congress....not to Barr....they fat ass overstepped his bounds....
The allegations were about "collusion". Does the angry crazy left concede that (candidate) Trump never colluded with the Russians? That would be a major step to achieving mental stability. It's difficult understand how in the world an investigation that took two years and over 3,000 subpoenas was designed to entrap the President in an obstruction web. The left is drifting into fantasy land.
/——/ Make efforts to jay walk but as long as you don’t cross the street, there’s no crime. Sorry Spanky.Take the efforts that trump made to stop the investigation....and apply it to any other person in this country and THEY ARE GUILTY.
Barr cooked this as a Sham from Day One...
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