Mueller intended for Congress to decide if trump obstructed justice....NOT BARR!

[JimH52]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

 

[Oddball]

No collusion...So the goalposts need to be moved to alleged obstruction.

SSDD...Move the fuck on.

 

[Care4all]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Correct.

It’s the role and responsibility of the people to hold Trump accountable for his actions via the political process – either by impeachment or at the ballot box.

 

[JimH52]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

There is no doubt about it. This WH and the cabinet trump chose is the largest group of snakes ever assembled in Washington, DC....

 

[JimH52]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Correct.

It’s the role and responsibility of the people to hold Trump accountable for his actions via the political process – either by impeachment or at the ballot box.

trump needs to be held accountable for his Suborning Perjury....for his fabrication of false evidence....and his violation of federal election laws....!

Voters need to rise up and DEMAND that he does not get away with his criminal acts!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

The AG is who decides criminality or not. The Congress is in charge of impeachment. Just like the Congress is not in charge of prosecution, the AG is not in charge of impeachment.

Now it's a question if the Democrats want to move on this. I think if they did, it would help us greatly regaining leadership of the House again, and perhaps shoring up our Senate a little more. Piglosi knows this. She's been in politics a long time. However the New Kids On The Block think they have a better way.

So let's see what they do.

 

[percysunshine]

Y’all are silly. Separation of powers makes Impeachment a political process involving the Legislative, Judicial, and Executive branches of government. Both Mueller and Barr are in the Executive branch of government.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Congress cannot pass a Bill of Attainder.

Thus without an actual felony or misdemeanor conviction through the justice system, they cannot proceed with actual impeachment.

The Bill of Attainder clause in the Constitution was specifically added to prevent a partisan Congress from abusing impeachment powers. Once again, the Founder Fathers cockblocked you.

 

[Mike473]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

You guys are going to freak out like fans watching Hulk Hogan run out of the locker room to save the day when Clinton announces. Here she comes to save the day!

 

[Geaux4it]

lol.... Who cares what Mueller wanted?

-Geaux

 

[Care4all]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

The AG is who decides criminality or not. The Congress is in charge of impeachment. Just like the Congress is not in charge of prosecution, the AG is not in charge of impeachment.

Now it's a question if the Democrats want to move on this. I think if they did, it would help us greatly regaining leadership of the House again, and perhaps shoring up our Senate a little more. Piglosi knows this. She's been in politics a long time. However the New Kids On The Block think they have a better way.

So let's see what they do.

View attachment 256921

No, it is not up to the AG to determine this, on a sitting president. A sitting president can NOT be charged, according to their rules...

It was not up to the AG in the Clinton or Nixon case either....
as per our constitution of the United States, it was passed on to Congress to decide, NOT the AG. Congress and only congress, has that power, while a president is in office.

The AG is as crooked as they come.... and completely out of bounds and unprecedented, in what he did.

 

[OldLady]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

I have not been following details. How does Barr's decision prevent Congress from opening their own investigations and proceeding with impeachment? I did not think they needed a "crime" in order to impeach. Is that what you are thinking? That since Barr did not find a crime, Congress no longer has a leg to stand on?

 

[hadit]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Correct.

It’s the role and responsibility of the people to hold Trump accountable for his actions via the political process – either by impeachment or at the ballot box.

trump needs to be held accountable for his Suborning Perjury....for his fabrication of false evidence....and his violation of federal election laws....!

Voters need to rise up and DEMAND that he does not get away with his criminal acts!

Chuckle.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

The AG is who decides criminality or not. The Congress is in charge of impeachment. Just like the Congress is not in charge of prosecution, the AG is not in charge of impeachment.

Now it's a question if the Democrats want to move on this. I think if they did, it would help us greatly regaining leadership of the House again, and perhaps shoring up our Senate a little more. Piglosi knows this. She's been in politics a long time. However the New Kids On The Block think they have a better way.

So let's see what they do.

View attachment 256921

No, it is not up to the AG to determine this, on a sitting president. A sitting president can NOT be charged, according to their rules...

It was not up to the AG in the Clinton or Nixon case either....
as per our constitution of the United States, it was passed on to Congress to decide, NOT the AG. Congress and only congress, has that power, while a president is in office.

The AG is as crooked as they come.... and completely out of bounds and unprecedented, in what he did.

He didn't do anything. That's what your problem is. He read the Mueller report for what it was, a failed investigation into wrongdoing that never took place.

So now that Democrats failed once again on that count, they are going for the consolation prize. In the meantime, Americans get sick of this endless pursuit of the President simply because they hate him, and nothing more; trying to reverse the election by the people even if it's using some phony process crime in a fake investigation to do it.

 

[hadit]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

The AG is who decides criminality or not. The Congress is in charge of impeachment. Just like the Congress is not in charge of prosecution, the AG is not in charge of impeachment.

Now it's a question if the Democrats want to move on this. I think if they did, it would help us greatly regaining leadership of the House again, and perhaps shoring up our Senate a little more. Piglosi knows this. She's been in politics a long time. However the New Kids On The Block think they have a better way.

So let's see what they do.

View attachment 256921

No, it is not up to the AG to determine this, on a sitting president. A sitting president can NOT be charged, according to their rules...

It was not up to the AG in the Clinton or Nixon case either....
as per our constitution of the United States, it was passed on to Congress to decide, NOT the AG. Congress and only congress, has that power, while a president is in office.

The AG is as crooked as they come.... and completely out of bounds and unprecedented, in what he did.

Chuckle.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

I have not been following details. How does Barr's decision prevent Congress from opening their own investigations and proceeding with impeachment? I did not think they needed a "crime" in order to impeach. Is that what you are thinking? That since Barr did not find a crime, Congress no longer has a leg to stand on?

What is Congress going to find that a special prosecutor couldn't find in over two years? It's the same argument about Trump's taxes: that there is something Congress should see as if they know more than the IRS does.

 

[Care4all]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Congress cannot pass a Bill of Attainder.

Thus without an actual felony or misdemeanor conviction through the justice system, they cannot proceed with actual impeachment.

The Bill of Attainder clause in the Constitution was specifically added to prevent a partisan Congress from abusing impeachment powers. Once again, the Founder Fathers cockblocked you.

You are way off the wall on this....

NO BILL OF ATTAINDER is needed for Congress to begin impeachment hearings...
no new law is needed for them to start impeachment hearings.... they have the constitution on their side.

they do not need to charge the president with any criminal law and do not ever charge the President with a criminal offense with criminal punishment....

They write articles of impeachment and the president has a trial to defend himself against these articles of impeachment.

These are NOT criminal charges in our criminal system.... the president can NOT be sent to jail on articles of impeachment... even if found guilty, he can be removed from office, if they choose to do so, THEN the criminal justice system can charge him with any criminal offenses once he is removed from office.

 

[Hellokitty]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Sounds like you're acknowledging the entire purpose of the Mueller SC was political...Democrats subpoenaing Mueller will only help Barr with his investigation of how the Obama administration and the CIA/FBI were illegally spying on TRUMP in order to take down his presidency.

 

[hadit]

Here is the quote from the Mueller document

Under OLC's analysis, Congress can permissibly criminalize certain obstructive conduct
by the President, such as suborning perjury , intimidating witnesses, or fabricating evidence ,
because those prohibitions raise no separation-of-powers questions. See Application of 28 U.S.C.
§ 458 to Presidential Appointments of Federal Judges, 19 Op. O.L.C. at 357 n.11. The
Constitution does not authorize the President to engage in such conduct, and those actions would
transgress the President's duty to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. " U.S . CONST.
ART IT, §§ 3.
_________________________________________________________________________________

The lying POS needs to be handled!

Yes, Mueller left it up to Congress and gave them the road map, for Impeachment Inquiry...

Barr jumped in, where he did NOT belong.

Jaworski and Ken Starr, did the same for Nixon and Clinton... they did not press charges against these Presidents, they turned over a road map for Congress, to impeach them, or in the least, to begin impeachment hearings.

We have a bunch of crooked people in the white house, beginning with Barr.

I have not been following details. How does Barr's decision prevent Congress from opening their own investigations and proceeding with impeachment? I did not think they needed a "crime" in order to impeach. Is that what you are thinking? That since Barr did not find a crime, Congress no longer has a leg to stand on?

What is Congress going to find that a special prosecutor couldn't find in over two years? It's the same argument about Trump's taxes: that there is something Congress should see as if they know more than the IRS does.

They literally don't care what Mueller did or did not find. They want Trump humiliated and gone, period. Mueller was just a means to that end, and since he didn't pan out, it's on to the next, more desperate ploy. They did the same thing at the election. First count on Hillary winning, she didn't, so on to recounts in carefully selected areas. When that didn't work, on to pressuring electors, which didn't work. Then it was impeach before he even was inaugurated. Logic has no impact on these emotional troglodytes.