Mother has kids kidnapped from her,she in return kills CPS agent.

Because you think there should be no agency to protect children from their parents.

And that attitude is shameful.
I think that police powers belong only to the police. That ensures accountability and competence. Civilians with police powers are petty tyrants who get people, including themselves, killed.
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In the specific case of this murderous thug- a judge removed her child from her custody and placed that child with the child's father.

Sounds like accountability to me.

What the hell else should be done other than just wait until the mom managed to kill the child from intent or neglect?
Was there any proof the mother was going to kill her child? You make a lot of assumptions that villify the mother and exonerate the CPS henchwoman

Do you have any proof that this CPS worker had done anything wrong?

Of course you don't. You assume for some odd reason that everyone had conspired against this woman- the police, the CPS, the judge- to remove all three of her children.

You make lots of assumptions to villify a woman who was gunned down in cold blood- even though she was not a convicted criminal and she didn't gun down her own aunt and two cousins.

The record of what we actually know- not your assumptions- we actually know- is that the murderious scum who killed 4 people was a long time loser.

11 convictions.
Multiple failures to appear.
Failure to meet parole conditions.
Failure to complete drug rehab programs.
Recent DUI

3 children by 3 different fathers- all three children removed from her custody.
Killed her own aunt and 2 cousins.

We don't have to assume anything to 'villify' this murdering scum.

You, however, know nothing about the woman who was killed except two things:
a) she was a mother of two kids and
b) she worked for Child Protective Services and was somehow involved in the latest child being removed from the murderers custody to be placed with her father.

So of course you blame the woman who was gunned down.

Because in this case- you are really are an ass when you assume she did anything wrong.
She kidnaps kids at gunpoint. Of course she did something wrong. I hope this keeps happening until nobody wants to be a certified kidnapper anymore.

What kid did she 'kidnap at gunpoint'?

What kind of gun was she carrying?

So far the only one in this story carrying a gun was the murderous thug who bravely shot this mother of two first from a distance, and then finished off the wounded mother at point blank range as she lay helpless on the ground.

So of course you applaud the murderer.

Of course.
 
Most CPS caseworkers are thugs, bullies, and tyrants...I'd guess that probably half could be killed and the result would be a net gain for the human race. They care little for the welfare of children, but plenty for their own power.
No rather most are state workers that are more worried about keeping their jobs then protecting the welfare of the kids they are paid to protect.

Most ignore the signs and leave kids in a bad situation! I am giving the DCFS worker the benefit of the doubt. Don't forget this poor excuse of a mother killed here cousin and aunt who were going to step up and take care of her kids!


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. It happened one time too many and a CPS henchwoman died. That should be a wake up call.

It is a wake up call.

There are assholes out there willing to kill government workers.

There are still the Timothy McVeighs and Terry Nichols and Jody Herrings out there who decide to take revenge on innocent people- or sometimes- cats.

I guess we should be glad that Jody Herring was too messed up to figure out how to make a truck bomb.
You are damn right people target government workers when those government workers

Which room in your house do you have your posters of Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh celebrating their murder of government workers?
Used to have them in my bedroom. Just McVeigh though. I was fascinated by him and his story.Own several books on the subject as well.Fed Gov can murder citizens but doesn't like it when Citizens strike back...tough shit.
 
No rather most are state workers that are more worried about keeping their jobs then protecting the welfare of the kids they are paid to protect.

Most ignore the signs and leave kids in a bad situation! I am giving the DCFS worker the benefit of the doubt. Don't forget this poor excuse of a mother killed here cousin and aunt who were going to step up and take care of her kids!


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. It happened one time too many and a CPS henchwoman died. That should be a wake up call.

It is a wake up call.

There are assholes out there willing to kill government workers.

There are still the Timothy McVeighs and Terry Nichols and Jody Herrings out there who decide to take revenge on innocent people- or sometimes- cats.

I guess we should be glad that Jody Herring was too messed up to figure out how to make a truck bomb.
You are damn right people target government workers when those government workers

Which room in your house do you have your posters of Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh celebrating their murder of government workers?
Used to have them in my bedroom. Just McVeigh though. I was fascinated by him and his story.Own several books on the subject as well.Fed Gov can murder citizens but doesn't like it when Citizens strike back...tough shit.

Yeah- why am I not surprised.

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No rather most are state workers that are more worried about keeping their jobs then protecting the welfare of the kids they are paid to protect.

Most ignore the signs and leave kids in a bad situation! I am giving the DCFS worker the benefit of the doubt. Don't forget this poor excuse of a mother killed here cousin and aunt who were going to step up and take care of her kids!


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. It happened one time too many and a CPS henchwoman died. That should be a wake up call.

It is a wake up call.

There are assholes out there willing to kill government workers.

There are still the Timothy McVeighs and Terry Nichols and Jody Herrings out there who decide to take revenge on innocent people- or sometimes- cats.

I guess we should be glad that Jody Herring was too messed up to figure out how to make a truck bomb.
You are damn right people target government workers when those government workers

Which room in your house do you have your posters of Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh celebrating their murder of government workers?
Used to have them in my bedroom. Just McVeigh though. I was fascinated by him and his story.Own several books on the subject as well.Fed Gov can murder citizens but doesn't like it when Citizens strike back...tough shit.
I was 19 when that happened on the heels of Ruby Ridge and Waco. There certainly was a feeling that our government was making war on the people and that reciprocity was needed. It is fascinating to read about his philosophy which he remained faithful to until the end. Small minds like Syriusly can't see outside of a very narrow viewpoint to the other side. Insects like her just have one button they hammer over and over again. Try explaining to an insect that Timothy McVeigh acted out of a deep love of his country, to defend it against its own murderous, tyrannical government. Insects can't see outside of the tiny little bubbles they live in.

Pity Syriusly. I do.
 
. It happened one time too many and a CPS henchwoman died. That should be a wake up call.

It is a wake up call.

There are assholes out there willing to kill government workers.

There are still the Timothy McVeighs and Terry Nichols and Jody Herrings out there who decide to take revenge on innocent people- or sometimes- cats.

I guess we should be glad that Jody Herring was too messed up to figure out how to make a truck bomb.
You are damn right people target government workers when those government workers

Which room in your house do you have your posters of Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh celebrating their murder of government workers?
Used to have them in my bedroom. Just McVeigh though. I was fascinated by him and his story.Own several books on the subject as well.Fed Gov can murder citizens but doesn't like it when Citizens strike back...tough shit.
I was 19 when that happened on the heels of Ruby Ridge and Waco. There certainly was a feeling that our government was making war on the people and that reciprocity was needed. It is fascinating to read about his philosophy which he remained faithful to until the end. Small minds like Syriusly can't see outside of a very narrow viewpoint to the other side. Insects like her just have one button they hammer over and over again. Try explaining to an insect that Timothy McVeigh acted out of a deep love of his country, to defend it against its own murderous, tyrannical government. Insects can't see outside of the tiny little bubbles they live in.

Pity Syriusly. I do.
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Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
 
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Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.

What the fuck are you talking about??!! I just told you that the parents are heard in court with an attorney. Yes in a case of imminent danger, a hearing is held after the fact, just like when a crime is committed, a hearing is held after the arrest.

Those others who you refer to are brain washed and / or just angry about getting busted for abusive behavior.
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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They caused her to become homicidal and rightfully so.
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Court order yep with lies CPS makes up falsified information etc. Never the truth. Oh and the "attorney" unless the parents hire their own is a fucking JOKE who works for the courts. Hiring a lawyer is MUCH better because he or she will work for YOU and they want that money. CPS is scared of real lawyers. They ain't scared of their buddies appointed by the courts. Oh and it is kidnapping. Are the kids consenting? Are the parents consenting for their kids to be taken? Nope therefore its happening against the families will aka KIDNAPPING which should be fought with FORCE which is why they bring pigs with them. If I was police chief if ANY of my deputies or officers helped CPS kidnap a child I would fire them on the fucking spot. I would have a no helping cps policy in place. Fuck CPS.
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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They caused her to become homicidal and rightfully so.
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Court order yep with lies CPS makes up falsified information etc. Never the truth. Oh and the "attorney" unless the parents hire their own is a fucking JOKE who works for the courts. Hiring a lawyer is MUCH better because he or she will work for YOU and they want that money. CPS is scared of real lawyers. They ain't scared of their buddies appointed by the courts. Oh and it is kidnapping. Are the kids consenting? Are the parents consenting for their kids to be taken? Nope therefore its happening against the families will aka KIDNAPPING which should be fought with FORCE which is why they bring pigs with them. If I was police chief if ANY of my deputies or officers helped CPS kidnap a child I would fire them on the fucking spot. I would have a no helping cps policy in place. Fuck CPS.

And how the fuck do you know any of this you lying jackass!! Wipe the spit off your chin and settle down. !!
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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They caused her to become homicidal and rightfully so.
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Court order yep with lies CPS makes up falsified information etc. Never the truth. Oh and the "attorney" unless the parents hire their own is a fucking JOKE who works for the courts. Hiring a lawyer is MUCH better because he or she will work for YOU and they want that money. CPS is scared of real lawyers. They ain't scared of their buddies appointed by the courts. Oh and it is kidnapping. Are the kids consenting? Are the parents consenting for their kids to be taken? Nope therefore its happening against the families will aka KIDNAPPING which should be fought with FORCE which is why they bring pigs with them. If I was police chief if ANY of my deputies or officers helped CPS kidnap a child I would fire them on the fucking spot. I would have a no helping cps policy in place. Fuck CPS.

And how the fuck do you know any of this you lying jackass!! Wipe the spit off your chin and settle down. !!
If you had read a DAMN thing I said before you I deal with these cases every day. PERIOD. All you need to know. All I am going to tell you.You are the enemy.
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.

What the fuck are you talking about??!! I just told you that the parents are heard in court with an attorney. Yes in a case of imminent danger, a hearing is held after the fact, just like when a crime is committed, a hearing is held after the arrest.

Those others who you refer to are brain washed and / or just angry about getting busted for abusive behavior.
Now you're just lying to protect your disreputable trade. Every CPS kidnapping is "a case of imminent danger" and the child is removed forcefully from home. I'm merely pointing out that if you kidnap children for a living, you are in constant danger of that rare mother who loves her children enough to defend them. Your problem is, you want to inflict criminal violence on people's homes with no risk. Well too effing bad. You take the same risk as any other criminal.
 
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.

What the fuck are you talking about??!! I just told you that the parents are heard in court with an attorney. Yes in a case of imminent danger, a hearing is held after the fact, just like when a crime is committed, a hearing is held after the arrest.

Those others who you refer to are brain washed and / or just angry about getting busted for abusive behavior.
Now you're just lying to protect your disreputable trade. Every CPS kidnapping is "a case of imminent danger" and the child is removed forcefully from home. I'm merely pointing out that if you kidnap children for a living, you are in constant danger of that rare mother who loves her children enough to defend them. Your problem is, you want to inflict criminal violence on people's homes with no risk. Well too effing bad. You take the same risk as any other criminal.

Equine Excrement! You are psychotic!
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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They caused her to become homicidal and rightfully so.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Court order yep with lies CPS makes up falsified information etc. Never the truth. Oh and the "attorney" unless the parents hire their own is a fucking JOKE who works for the courts. Hiring a lawyer is MUCH better because he or she will work for YOU and they want that money. CPS is scared of real lawyers. They ain't scared of their buddies appointed by the courts. Oh and it is kidnapping. Are the kids consenting? Are the parents consenting for their kids to be taken? Nope therefore its happening against the families will aka KIDNAPPING which should be fought with FORCE which is why they bring pigs with them. If I was police chief if ANY of my deputies or officers helped CPS kidnap a child I would fire them on the fucking spot. I would have a no helping cps policy in place. Fuck CPS.

And how the fuck do you know any of this you lying jackass!! Wipe the spit off your chin and settle down. !!
If you had read a DAMN thing I said before you I deal with these cases every day. PERIOD. All you need to know. All I am going to tell you.You are the enemy.

Really? You deal with these cases every day? What are you? A serial child abuser???
 
CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.

What the fuck are you talking about??!! I just told you that the parents are heard in court with an attorney. Yes in a case of imminent danger, a hearing is held after the fact, just like when a crime is committed, a hearing is held after the arrest.

Those others who you refer to are brain washed and / or just angry about getting busted for abusive behavior.
Now you're just lying to protect your disreputable trade. Every CPS kidnapping is "a case of imminent danger" and the child is removed forcefully from home. I'm merely pointing out that if you kidnap children for a living, you are in constant danger of that rare mother who loves her children enough to defend them. Your problem is, you want to inflict criminal violence on people's homes with no risk. Well too effing bad. You take the same risk as any other criminal.

Equine Excrement! You are psychotic!
AKA you won't roll over and let us kidnap your child,brainwash them,rape them,dope them up on drugs so they are easily controlled and then sell them to highest bidder!
 
Even in a case of a child being put with a better family etc it DOES NOT justify nor make OK the HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of other cases where they kidnapped kids from loving homes and families so they could make a buck.
All I have read from worker at the DCFS is the horrendous situation that many of these kids are in and they still can't get them out. It is very hard to safe these kids.

First this gutter trash was turned in by her own family. Then they investigated found cause and saved the child. Then she went on a homicidal rage, proving the DCFS agents right.


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They caused her to become homicidal and rightfully so.
CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Court order yep with lies CPS makes up falsified information etc. Never the truth. Oh and the "attorney" unless the parents hire their own is a fucking JOKE who works for the courts. Hiring a lawyer is MUCH better because he or she will work for YOU and they want that money. CPS is scared of real lawyers. They ain't scared of their buddies appointed by the courts. Oh and it is kidnapping. Are the kids consenting? Are the parents consenting for their kids to be taken? Nope therefore its happening against the families will aka KIDNAPPING which should be fought with FORCE which is why they bring pigs with them. If I was police chief if ANY of my deputies or officers helped CPS kidnap a child I would fire them on the fucking spot. I would have a no helping cps policy in place. Fuck CPS.

And how the fuck do you know any of this you lying jackass!! Wipe the spit off your chin and settle down. !!
If you had read a DAMN thing I said before you I deal with these cases every day. PERIOD. All you need to know. All I am going to tell you.You are the enemy.

Really? You deal with these cases every day? What are you? A serial child abuser???
Keep guessing baby kidnapper....keep guessing. Like I said its all you are getting. YOU ARE THE ENEMY. PERIOD.
 
CPS needs proof BEFORE kidnapping a child, not afterwards. Circular reasoning. And if CPS is bitching that it's too difficult to kidnap children, tough shit. Hopefully mothers using deadly force will become a fixed part of the gauntlet.

You don't get any smarter do you. In most cases a court order must be obtained prior to removal. In order to get that order, the agency must submit a sworn affidavit and any available evidence of abuse or neglect. . In cases of imminent danger, the order can be obtained after removal. In all cases, a hearing is held in family court shortly thereafter where the parent is represented by an attorney. The child is also represented by another attorney who's job is to look out for the best interest of the child.

In New Jersey and I'm sure in other states, the case is also referred to the child placement review board comprised of volunteers who review the facts and make recommendations to the judge as to the most appropriate plan for the child. There is no kidnapping unless you believe Alex Jones and his ilk, or the lies of abusive parents who had their kids taken away.. Why can't you get this through your thick fucking skull?
Have you noticed that this thread is full of your unhappy customers, not just me? Have you noticed that lots of people think you assholes have way too much power and not enough accountability? Have you seen that I'm not alone in saying police powers shouldn't be given to petty tyrants?

And any court proceeding that doesn't involve the parents is invalid under the 4th Amendment that requires due process. This isn't a search warrant, this is the wresting of children away from their parents at the point of a gun. You aren't convincing anyone that your little kidnapper agency is constrained by accountability. This thread is full of people who say that's a load of shit.

You've been gone awhile. This thread has turned against you.

What the fuck are you talking about??!! I just told you that the parents are heard in court with an attorney. Yes in a case of imminent danger, a hearing is held after the fact, just like when a crime is committed, a hearing is held after the arrest.

Those others who you refer to are brain washed and / or just angry about getting busted for abusive behavior.
Now you're just lying to protect your disreputable trade. Every CPS kidnapping is "a case of imminent danger" and the child is removed forcefully from home. I'm merely pointing out that if you kidnap children for a living, you are in constant danger of that rare mother who loves her children enough to defend them. Your problem is, you want to inflict criminal violence on people's homes with no risk. Well too effing bad. You take the same risk as any other criminal.

Equine Excrement! You are psychotic!
Sounds like you just lost the argument.
 
. It happened one time too many and a CPS henchwoman died. That should be a wake up call.

It is a wake up call.

There are assholes out there willing to kill government workers.

There are still the Timothy McVeighs and Terry Nichols and Jody Herrings out there who decide to take revenge on innocent people- or sometimes- cats.

I guess we should be glad that Jody Herring was too messed up to figure out how to make a truck bomb.
You are damn right people target government workers when those government workers

Which room in your house do you have your posters of Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh celebrating their murder of government workers?
Used to have them in my bedroom. Just McVeigh though. I was fascinated by him and his story.Own several books on the subject as well.Fed Gov can murder citizens but doesn't like it when Citizens strike back...tough shit.
I was 19 when that happened on the heels of Ruby Ridge and Waco. There certainly was a feeling that our government was making war on the people and that reciprocity was needed. It is fascinating to read about his philosophy which he remained faithful to until the end. Small minds like Syriusly can't see outside of a very narrow viewpoint to the other side. Insects like her just have one button they hammer over and over again. Try explaining to an insect that Timothy McVeigh acted out of a deep love of his country, to defend it against its own murderous, tyrannical government. Insects can't see outside of the tiny little bubbles they live in.

Pity Syriusly. I do.

The official story of what happened at OKC has more holes than the brake rotors on my Burgman.
 

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