More and More of the Steele Dossier Proving to be True

[MordechaiGoodbud]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

 

[DJT for Life]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Yeah buddy...because Clapper always tell the truth. ROTFLMFAO!!!!

 

[Muhammed]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Yeah buddy...because Clapper always tell the truth. ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Not wittingly.

 

[Zorro!]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Well, this claim didn't age well.

Ohhhh: New York Times Reports That It's Very Possible the Entire Steele Dossier Was Itself Kremlin Disinformation

Didn't they dismiss this possibility for two and a half years and also smear anyone who noticed the entire basis of this conspiracy theory that Trump was a Kremlin asset actually came from Kremlin assets?!

Oh right, they did do exactly that.

Whoops!

Now the dossier, financed by Hillary Clinton's campaign and compiled by a former British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, is likely to face new, possibly harsh scrutiny from multiple inquiries.
Republicans in Congress have vowed to investigate. The Justice Department's inspector general is considering whether the Federal Bureau of Investigation improperly relied on the dossier in applying to the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for a warrant to eavesdrop on Carter Page, a Trump adviser. The inspector general wants to know what the F.B.I. learned about Mr. Steele's sources and whether it disclosed any doubts about their veracity to the court.​

The Times spends a few paragraphs alibiing the Clinton campaign and Steele and themselves by explaining all the ways in which this dossier could have been completely wrong, and yet in all innocence then they venture another guess:

Another possibility -- one that Mr. Steele has not ruled out -- could be Russian disinformation. That would mean that in addition to carrying out an effective attack on the Clinton campaign, Russian spymasters hedged their bets and placed a few land mines under Mr. Trump’s presidency as well.

Oleg D. Kalugin, a former K.G.B. general who now lives outside Washington, saw that as plausible. "Russia has huge experience in spreading false information," he said.

Mr. Steele declined to comment for this article.​

The Daily Caller reported on that possibility weeks ago, when the media was still dismissing the possibility as a conspiracy theory which couldn't possibly be true because it disagreed with their own preferred conspiracy theory.

Then again, it's also possible that the dossier was written not by Russians, but by the people who wanted to spy on Trump.

 

[OKTexas]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

More BS from the known liar, notice he long on innuendo with zero specifics. Typical commie bullshit.

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[Zorro!]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

More BS from the known liar, notice he long on innuendo with zero specifics. Typical commie bullshit.

He's not the on BS'r, look at this crap from OUR Good Buddy Trey Gowdy:

Representative Gowdy
Gowdy’s spoke with Fox News Tuesday night for an interview by Martha MacCallum. An able lawyer, the congressman is suddenly on a mission to protect the Justice Department and the FBI from further criticism for spying on Trump. So, when Ms. MacCallum posed the question about the FBI spying on the Trump campaign, Gowdy deftly changed the subject: Rather than address the campaign, he repeatedly insisted that Donald Trump personally was never the “target” of the FBI’s investigation. The only “target,” Gowdy maintains, was Russia.

This is a dodge on at least two levels.

First, to repeat, the question raised by the FBI’s use of an informant is whether the bureau was investigating the Trump campaign. We’ll come momentarily to the closely connected question of whether Trump can be airbrushed out of his own campaign — I suspect the impossibility of this feat is why Gowdy is resistant to discussing the Trump campaign at all.

It is a diversion for Gowdy to prattle on about how Trump himself was not a “target” of the Russia investigation. The Trump-Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation. An accomplished prosecutor, Gowdy well knows that “target” is a term of art in criminal investigations, denoting a suspect who is likely to be indicted. The term is inapposite to counterintelligence investigations, which are not about building criminal cases but about divining and thwarting the provocative schemes of hostile foreign powers. In that sense, and in no other, the foreign power at issue — here, Russia — is always the “target” of a counterintelligence probe; but it is never a “target” in the technical criminal-investigation sense in which Gowdy used the term . . . unless you think we are going to indict a country.

Moreover, even if we stick to the criminal-investigation sense of “target,” Gowdy knows it is misleading to emphasize that Trump is not one. Just a few short weeks ago, Gowdy was heard pooh-poohing as “meaningless” media reporting that Trump had been advised he was not a “target” of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe (which was the current iteration of the Russia investigation). As the congressman quite correctly pointed out, if Trump is a subject of the investigation — another criminal-law term of art, denoting a person whose conduct is under scrutiny, but who may or may not be indicted — it should be of little comfort that he is not a “target”; depending on how the evidence shakes out, a subject can become a target in the blink of an eye.

So, apart from the fact that Gowdy is dodging the question about whether the Trump campaign was being investigated, his digression about “targets” is gibberish. Since the Obama administration was using its counterintelligence powers (FISA surveillance, national-security letters, unmasking identities in intelligence reporting, all bolstered by the use of at least one covert informant), the political-spying issue boils down to whether the Trump campaign was being monitored. Whether Trump himself was apt to be indicted, and whether threats posed by Russia were the FBI’s focus, are beside the point; in a counterintelligence case, an indictment is never the objective, and a foreign power is always the focus.

Withholding Information from Trump
Second, if Gowdy has been paying attention, he must know that, precisely because the Trump campaign was under investigation, top FBI officials had qualms of conscience over Comey’s plan to give Trump a misleading assurance that he personally was not under investigation. If this has slipped Gowdy mind, perhaps Rubio could lend him the transcript of Comey’s testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee — in particular, a section Rubio seems not to remember, either.

Trump Campaign Spying -- Obama Administration Investigation Aimed at Trump Campaign | National Review

 

[Oddball]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

 

[OKTexas]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

More BS from the known liar, notice he long on innuendo with zero specifics. Typical commie bullshit.

He's not the on BS'r, look at this crap from OUR Good Buddy Trey Gowdy:

Representative Gowdy
Gowdy’s spoke with Fox News Tuesday night for an interview by Martha MacCallum. An able lawyer, the congressman is suddenly on a mission to protect the Justice Department and the FBI from further criticism for spying on Trump. So, when Ms. MacCallum posed the question about the FBI spying on the Trump campaign, Gowdy deftly changed the subject: Rather than address the campaign, he repeatedly insisted that Donald Trump personally was never the “target” of the FBI’s investigation. The only “target,” Gowdy maintains, was Russia.

This is a dodge on at least two levels.

First, to repeat, the question raised by the FBI’s use of an informant is whether the bureau was investigating the Trump campaign. We’ll come momentarily to the closely connected question of whether Trump can be airbrushed out of his own campaign — I suspect the impossibility of this feat is why Gowdy is resistant to discussing the Trump campaign at all.

It is a diversion for Gowdy to prattle on about how Trump himself was not a “target” of the Russia investigation. The Trump-Russia probe is a counterintelligence investigation. An accomplished prosecutor, Gowdy well knows that “target” is a term of art in criminal investigations, denoting a suspect who is likely to be indicted. The term is inapposite to counterintelligence investigations, which are not about building criminal cases but about divining and thwarting the provocative schemes of hostile foreign powers. In that sense, and in no other, the foreign power at issue — here, Russia — is always the “target” of a counterintelligence probe; but it is never a “target” in the technical criminal-investigation sense in which Gowdy used the term . . . unless you think we are going to indict a country.

Moreover, even if we stick to the criminal-investigation sense of “target,” Gowdy knows it is misleading to emphasize that Trump is not one. Just a few short weeks ago, Gowdy was heard pooh-poohing as “meaningless” media reporting that Trump had been advised he was not a “target” of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe (which was the current iteration of the Russia investigation). As the congressman quite correctly pointed out, if Trump is a subject of the investigation — another criminal-law term of art, denoting a person whose conduct is under scrutiny, but who may or may not be indicted — it should be of little comfort that he is not a “target”; depending on how the evidence shakes out, a subject can become a target in the blink of an eye.

So, apart from the fact that Gowdy is dodging the question about whether the Trump campaign was being investigated, his digression about “targets” is gibberish. Since the Obama administration was using its counterintelligence powers (FISA surveillance, national-security letters, unmasking identities in intelligence reporting, all bolstered by the use of at least one covert informant), the political-spying issue boils down to whether the Trump campaign was being monitored. Whether Trump himself was apt to be indicted, and whether threats posed by Russia were the FBI’s focus, are beside the point; in a counterintelligence case, an indictment is never the objective, and a foreign power is always the focus.

Withholding Information from Trump
Second, if Gowdy has been paying attention, he must know that, precisely because the Trump campaign was under investigation, top FBI officials had qualms of conscience over Comey’s plan to give Trump a misleading assurance that he personally was not under investigation. If this has slipped Gowdy mind, perhaps Rubio could lend him the transcript of Comey’s testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee — in particular, a section Rubio seems not to remember, either.

Trump Campaign Spying -- Obama Administration Investigation Aimed at Trump Campaign | National Review

Still scratching my head trying to figure out how all that bullshit had anything to do with my comment on the article presented by the OP.

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[OKTexas]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

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Isn't he the one who said, under oath, the government wasn't wittingly collecting data on millions of Americans. A true commie hero I guess. LMAO

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[GreenAndBlue]

This proves democrats are nothing but LIARS !!

And the men were the first to know they are liars because of men's higher logic ability which makes them harder to fool

 

[blackhawk]

This clapper is far more reliable than James Clapper.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Feinstein was warned that she had s Chinese spy driving her around

Trump was not warned of a possible Russia interaction


That proves 100% the justice dept guilty of high treason of trying to do a coop against the American voters

 

[sakinago]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

WTF...Your article is a fucking click bait headline and really pisses me off. It pisses me off because it’s conjecture that admits that none of the actionable stuff of the dossier is true, but some stupid stuff not at all specified or backed up may be able to be proven true...coming from a source that is looking very very stupid right now after the release of the mueller report. The very same mueller report that barely mentioned anything that was in the dossier. The dossier was potential BS when it first came out, and has been nothing but proven even more BS as time went on.

I made an thread laughing at headlines like these, and I took the time to actually read some of this until I discovered it was click bait. I feel duped about the time I’ve wasted and would like to straddle and strangle both you and the person who wrote this article for actually posting this as something to spend time and mental energy on.

JUST TAKE THE LOSS. You shouldn’t feel cheated by trump winning. Trump won because the media you rely on is corrupt, and the people that elected him hate that media so much they elected the asshole that was calling them out for what they were. If you only listen to MSM, then trump being elected doesn’t make sense to you so therefore Russia must have been what go him elected. That’s clearly not the case, and the media you’re following are pulling your leg. Stop believing everything they say. If both CNN and Fox are saying it, it’s probably true. If they differ on it, there is probably some middle ground there to find. That middle ground is where the debate should be in.

 

[Oldstyle]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Clapper? Clapper's going to end up being charged with criminal misconduct for his actions both before and after the election! There might not be a bigger liar in this whole sorry mess than James Clapper! I wouldn't take anything that POS says as the truth!

 

[Zorro!]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Clapper? Clapper's going to end up being charged with criminal misconduct for his actions both before and after the election! There might not be a bigger liar in this whole sorry mess than James Clapper! I wouldn't take anything that POS says as the truth!

Ryan and the boys let the Statute of Limitation run on his open lying to Congress that Snowden exposed.

 

[sakinago]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier

Whoopsy clapper.

 

[Fueri]

Clapper wouldn't feel obligated to tell the truth to the American people if you hooked a car battery up to grandkids' nuts.

Guy is a proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, liar.

 

[Zorro!]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

Well, those claims didn't age well.

Steele’s Shoddy Dossier

Its claims were absurd, its evidence unconvincing — why did government officials ignore so many red flags?

And you even sourced James Crapper as "verification"? He's running for the hills now!

Could former Obama-administration intelligence chiefs run any faster from the Steele dossier? “Pseudo-intelligence,” scoffs former national intelligence director James Crapper in his new memoir — after having arranged for the dossier to be included in a briefing of then-president-elect Trump, ensuring it would be published by the media. John Brennan, the former CIA director, belittles the dossier as uncorroborated reporting never refined into an authentic intelligence-agency product — and hopes we don’t notice his behind-the-scenes stoking of the dossier’s explosive allegations during the 2016 campaign. “Salacious and unverified,” sniffs former FBI director James Comey — after his bureau repeatedly relied on the dossier to obtain surveillance warrants from a federal court.

Even the principal author himself, former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, no longer stands behind his work. He touted it plenty ahead of the election he told colleagues he desperately wanted Trump to lose. Later, though, when he was sued for libel in Britain and had to answer questions under oath, the dossier disintegrated into “unverified” bits of “raw intelligence” that he had passed along because they “warranted further investigation” — not because they were, you know, true.

By any objective measure, Steele’s dossier is a shoddy piece of work. Its stories are preposterous — the “pee tape,” the grandiose Trump–Russia espionage conspiracy, the closely coordinating Trump emissaries who turn out not even to know each other, the trips and meetings that never happened, the hub of conspiratorial activity that did not actually exist. Steele gets basic facts wrong. There are undated and misdated reports. The putative Russia expert repeatedly misspells the name of Alfa Bank (“Alpha”), which is among the country’s most important financial institutions. In the antithesis of good spycraft, Steele tried (unsuccessfully) to corroborate his sensational claims by using dodgy information pulled off the Internet, including posts by “random individuals” who were as unknown to Steele as most of Steele’s vaunted sources are unknown to everyone else. No wonder Steele’s former MI6 superior, Sir John Scarlett, scathingly assessed the dossier as falling woefully short of professional intelligence standards: The reports were “visibly” part of a “commercial” venture, unlikely ever to be corroborated, and patently suspect due to questions about who commissioned them and why they were generated.

Yet the Obama administration made the dossier the centerpiece of its Russia investigation.

Steele’s Shoddy Dossier | National Review

Are you concerned that you were so un-skeptical of this obvious fraud?

 

[bripat9643]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

No such web page.

 

[Zorro!]

Clapper: 'More and more' of Steele dossier proving to be true

Some on this message board falsely claim it has been debunked.

In fact just the opposite is true, according to someone who would know...James Clapper.

No such web page.

Not surprising. Crapper and everyone else is running as far and as fast from the Dossier as they can. Unfortunately, they spent several years assuring us it was true, even using it to support domestic spying on a US Presidential campaign, transition and even a Presidential Administration.

In the spring of 2016, Steele was a sleuth for hire who had done the bidding of such fine, upstanding clients as Oleg Deripaska, known as “Putin’s oligarch,” who had cornered the Russian aluminum market during the post-Soviet era of “gangster capitalism” and labors under U.S. sanctions imposed due to the regime’s malign policies. And why shouldn’t Steele work for Deripaska? Simpson, who was just as rabidly anti-Trump, had Fusion GPS doing lucrative litigation-support work for Denis Katsyv — son of Putin crony and transportation minister Pyotr Katsyv. On that project, Simpson’s main job was to savage the reputation of Bill Browder, the longtime Kremlin antagonist who spurred passage of the Magnitsky Act — Congress’s response to the Putin regime’s imprisonment, torture, and murder of Sergei Magnitsky, the investigator Browder hired to uncover the massive financial fraud carried out by the regime.

The client lists of Steele and Simpson would have put any competent FBI agent on alert to the possibility that these political operatives were being fed disinformation by the Kremlin, which may have coopted them through well-paying service contracts. Ironically, such fears had informed Simpson’s own work years earlier, when he wrote a series of Wall Street Journal reports examining the corrupt interplay between the Kremlin, the oligarchs, Russian organized crime, and American political consultants — most of them Republicans, such as Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager who had cut his political teeth in the 1976 Ford campaign. In fact, had the bureau done its job, it would have detected that the dossier was an updated partisan narrative derived from Simpson’s Bush 43–era investigative journalism, with the same theme of corrupt interplay between Putin’s regime and American politics.

In the media coverage of Russiagate, Steele’s intelligence-officer background has been a deceptive distraction. In drafting the dossier, he was not a detached intelligence agent whose training in the separation of fact from fiction was critical to his country’s security and prosperity. That was the Steele of years ago. Arguably it was the Steele of 2010, fresh out of MI6, who had worked with the Obama Justice Department on the heralded FIFA soccer-corruption investigation. The Steele of 2016, however, was a private eye, marshaling (or inflating) information in the light most favorable to his clients. During the Trump–Clinton contest, he was a well-paid and quite willing political hack.

Both the FBI and the Justice Department were well aware of that. Another Fusion GPS collaborator on the dossier was Nellie Ohr, a former CIA open-source researcher married to Bruce Ohr, a high-ranking Justice Department official. Nearly three months before the Obama administration used the dossier in court, Bruce Ohr told top bureau officials — including his longtime colleagues, deputy director Andrew McCabe and McCabe’s counselor, Lisa Page — that Steele was working with Nellie Ohr on anti-Trump research that was connected to the Clinton campaign. Steele told Bruce Ohr he was desperate that Trump not get elected. Ten days before the court issued FISA warrants based on the dossier, Steele told State Department official Kathleen Kavalec that he hoped his dirt on Trump would become public before Election Day and that he was cultivating relationships with various major press outlets. Kavalec passed this information along to the bureau.

Steele’s Shoddy Dossier | National Review