Moment of Silence found unconstitutional

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    Judge: Moment-of-silence law unconstitutional - Chicago Breaking News

    A federal judge in Chicago ruled today that a state law mandating a moment of silence in Illinois public schools is unconstitutional.

    The judge, Robert W. Gettleman of the U.S. District Court, had put the Illinois law on hold last May while he considered the case filed by an atheist on behalf of his daughter.

    Critics of the law, including the American Civil Liberties Union, contended the law amounted to a government endorsement of religion.

    "Students remain free to pray on their own, in a non-disruptive manner, throughout the school day," ACLU lawyer Adam Schwartz said in a statement. "As Judge Gettleman recognized in his decision, public school students in Illinois do not require the permission of the General Assembly to engage in this constitutionally protected activity. "
     
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    I don't see how it "amounted to a government endorsement of religion".
     
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    I think we ought to start a moment of silence movement.
     
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    mum's the word.
     
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    Aw. I liked those moments of silence when I was in school. A brief moment of peace and quiet...

    Of course, everyone knew perfectly well that it was an unofficial prayer time, but I thought the "wall" was sufficiently respected since there was nothing explicitly religious about it, and since there was no way to tell who was and wasn't praying there were no social repremands for not praying. Of course, everyone had to keep quiet, but I think it's well within a school's authority to tell everyone to stfu for a minute.
     
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    Question is however, when is it no longer within a school's authority?

    Let's face it, the moment of silence always has been unoffical prayer time as you stated though because they could never state it in public schools outloud like that.

    And if that's the case, it would be unconstitutional.

    A moment of silence for our troops serving overseas, who have died,etc? That I don't mind.
     
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    Oh please---now we have to define what a moment of silence if FOR ???
     
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    A moment of silence in honor of all fallen Jalusians.......
     
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    Shrugs, personally I could care less since I don't pray during that moment of silence. However, the moment of silence has always seen as a moment of prayer; only after 9/11 for a short period of time was it seen as a silent moment for those who died on 9/11.

    Then after the War in Afghanistan/Iraq began, for a short period of time it was seen as a silent moment for the troops.

    Big difference when it's a moment of prayer and a moment for the troops.
     
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    nope---someone might cheat and use the time to pray.
     

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