Mitt Romney: We don’t need more cops, firefighters or teachers

[BDBoop]

Come on Grampy, I thought you had the "real" meaning behind what he said. What is it? What's the "real" meaning behind his statements that class size doesn't matter and that we don't need more cops, firefighters and teachers? Is is so super secret (like Romney's magic underwear) that you can't talk about it?

Seems so!

Shouldn't you go back to the Tavern and continue to artificially pump your rep count up? You're going to need it if your going to post with the adults.

/snort

Okay. Which one of us was begging for help to get over 1000?

Hint: Wasn't me.

Ass fedora.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Seems so!

Shouldn't you go back to the Tavern and continue to artificially pump your rep count up? You're going to need it if your going to post with the adults.

/snort

Okay. Which one of us was begging for help to get over 1000?

Hint: Wasn't me.

Ass fedora.

I asked for 2 points twit. You've gotten 99% of your rep from playing house in that thread daily.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Does anyone really agree with Reversible Mittens, that we don't need cops, firefighters and teachers? Really?

Romney says there is no harm in raising class sizes. Any PARENTS out there that agree with him?

Me

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

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Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

DEANY no you don't need more police because the police are not legally bound to protect they take reports.
You don't need more firemen because you have a volunteer fire department.

And you do not need more government hired teachers when you can send your children to a private school of your choosing.

bump

 

[clevergirl]

Bain Capital 'purchased' KB for the respectable price of $ 305 million dollars on December 8, 2000.

Bain Capital only offered $ 18 million in cash, the rest was leaveraged debt put on the company.

Sixteen months after the buyout, Bain Capital paid itself $85 million in dividends in early 2002.

January 14, 2004, K·B Toys filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection and closed 365 stores.

Three years later the rest of the 156 stores were closed down.

Romney is a thief.

FACTS:

About eight minutes into the documentary-style piece, the video uses an old jingle from KB Toys along with this narration:

"Romney and Bain bought the 80-year-old company in 2000, loaded KB Toys with millions in debt, then used the money to repurchase Bain stock. The debt was too staggering. By 2004, 365 stores had closed."

That the chain failed isn't in dispute: KB Toys went into bankruptcy in 2004 under Bain, later dissolving in bankruptcy court under different owners in 2008. But what drove it out of business?

Romney's retirement

The first two words in that quote, "Romney and Bain," raise the first question: How was Romney involved with Bain in 2000?

He had retired from the firm in February 1999 to help organize the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics.

PolitiFact | Video blames Bain Capital for demise of KB Toys

Romney still gets money from Bain's deals though 2009. Like I said, Romney is a thief...

Though Mr. Romney left Bain in early 1999, he received a share of the corporate buyout and investment profits enjoyed by partners from all Bain deals through February 2009:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/u...n-money-flowing-to-romney.html?pagewanted=all

Lame- Like Politifact stated- Romney had nothing to do with the deal at KB- and Bain did NOT cause the demise of KB. His receipts of any residual dividends does not equal what your slander claims. You provided weak shit-

 

[BDBoop]

Shouldn't you go back to the Tavern and continue to artificially pump your rep count up? You're going to need it if your going to post with the adults.

/snort

Okay. Which one of us was begging for help to get over 1000?

Hint: Wasn't me.

Ass fedora.

I asked for 2 points twit. You've gotten 99% of your rep from playing house in that thread daily.

I have? Gracious, I had no idea you had access to my rep screen. Oh wait - if you DID, you'd know that was a bald-faced lie.

Maybe you're telepathetic.

 

[Oldstyle]

What Obama "wants" is either for us to borrow billions more so he can artificially prop up his unemployment numbers from the abysmal ones he now owns or have the Republicans refuse so he can paint them as being "heartless".

What he SHOULD be doing is working on a plan to put the private sector back to work in large enough numbers so that the resulting revenues allows State and local governments to PAY for teachers, cops and firefighters. But that would make sense...and this isn't about sound policy...it's about finding an issue that he can run for reelection on.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

/snort

Okay. Which one of us was begging for help to get over 1000?

Hint: Wasn't me.

Ass fedora.

I asked for 2 points twit. You've gotten 99% of your rep from playing house in that thread daily.

I have? Gracious, I had no idea you had access to my rep screen. Oh wait - if you DID, you'd know that was a bald-faced lie.

Maybe you're telepathetic.

Shut up and serve me some tavern coffee.

 

[BDBoop]

I asked for 2 points twit. You've gotten 99% of your rep from playing house in that thread daily.

I have? Gracious, I had no idea you had access to my rep screen. Oh wait - if you DID, you'd know that was a bald-faced lie.

Maybe you're telepathetic.

Shut up and serve me some tavern coffee.

I can see why your life has unfolded as it has. Karma's a bitch.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I have? Gracious, I had no idea you had access to my rep screen. Oh wait - if you DID, you'd know that was a bald-faced lie.

Maybe you're telepathetic.

Shut up and serve me some tavern coffee.

I can see why your life has unfolded as it has. Karma's a bitch.

My life? Lol you know shit about my life. Much like your knowledge of politics.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I thought people of your "ilk" hated law enforcement?

Anyone who has read my posts, you fucking shitstain, knows what a strong supporter I am of the police.

Because I feel the Republican Party has become extreme, ignorant, dangerous to the country doesn't translate into a lack of support for either the military or law enforcement.

It's your kind that feel they are patriotic even as they bring down the economy and send young Americans off to war for no other reason than to die. Republican ideals are much closer to al Qaeda than to the the American Middle class. Let him die? Applauding executions? Those are your ideals and ethics, not mine.

I don't call "American helping American" the path to "socialism".

Shitforbrains Deanie Weenie hates all things police, yet loves the police state.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

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Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

Cracks me up that in this thread,
http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/228050-ask-a-snob-why-are-millions-of-jobs-going-unfilled.html
the rw's are saying that R's are not anti-education.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

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Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

As usual, "rdean" makes a feeble attempt to pass off OPINIONS as facts.

As usual, "rdean" takes outrageous liberties with "context", and makes up his own "facts".

Yawns............................

There are plenty of facts in rdean's post, including that the smarmy R's fought against health care for the first responders at 9/11 and then, because those brave firefighters and police officers have a very high rate of cancer, they left cancer screening and treatment off the coverage they finally voted for. Makes ya wonder how the R's can look at themselves in the mirror. We could ask them but they're on yet another vacation right now.

BUT, I do agree that Mitt has no opinions of his own. Glad to see an rw's who breaks from the sheeples. Admitting you have a problem is the first step ...

 

[The Rabbi]

So what does your magic Reversible Mittens Decoder Ring say he meant?

It says I can sell you ocean front property right here in KC because you're gullible enough to go for it.

Come on Grampy, I thought you had the "real" meaning behind what he said. What is it? What's the "real" meaning behind his statements that class size doesn't matter and that we don't need more cops, firefighters and teachers? Is is so super secret (like Romney's magic underwear) that you can't talk about it?

Looks like Grampa murked you, Seabytch.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Well we wouldnt need as many cops if liberals didnt let out criminals.
We wouldnt need as many teachers if liberals didnt fight every time we ask them to pay for their benefits and they instead WELCOME layoffs.
As for firefighters, cant really say, maybe stop making methlabs?

 

[BDBoop]

Gotta love The Daily Edge.

Anyone willing to pay Bristol Palin $20K for a speech on abstinence has no right to say teachers and firefighters earn too much

 

[oreo]

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

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Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

Well--who says--we need more cops--fireman and teachers? Who told you that--and what statistic is that based upon. What if we have enough of the above already---or is this a "feely good" way to waste more taxpayer dollars? It's like saying we need more military--LOL

 

[Too Tall]

So what does your magic Reversible Mittens Decoder Ring say he meant?

It says I can sell you ocean front property right here in KC because you're gullible enough to go for it.

Come on Grampy, I thought you had the "real" meaning behind what he said. What is it? What's the "real" meaning behind his statements that class size doesn't matter and that we don't need more cops, firefighters and teachers? Is is so super secret (like Romney's magic underwear) that you can't talk about it?

Here are two reasons that New York doesn't need more teachers.

According to state Department of Labor statistics, the number of teachers has declined, but not at the level that school districts claim at budget votes, says the Albany Times Union.
The article points out that in the counties surrounding Albany (the “Capital Region”) the average number of jobs at public schools between 2005 and 2011 was the same — 27,200 — even though student enrollment dropped by 11,000.

Teacher Layoffs Not So Dire, Says New Report - Ditmas Park, NY Patch

Sometimes the class discipline case is the teacher.

A survey by the Department of Education looked at 17 different schools and found nearly a quarter of the teachers there weren't working the minimum number of hours. The results of the report were obtained by the New York Post through a Freedom of Information Act request.

The Post wrote that of those audited by the Department of Education last year, one in four city public-school teachers were not teaching the minimum number of classes their contracts required.

This means that in just the last year $934,000 in taxpayer funds went to teachers for doing essentially nothing.

Audit Catches Teachers Playing Hooky - Ditmas Park, NY Patch

 

[Seawytch]

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

-----------------------------

Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

Well--who says--we need more cops--fireman and teachers? Who told you that--and what statistic is that based upon. What if we have enough of the above already---or is this a "feely good" way to waste more taxpayer dollars? It's like saying we need more military--LOL

Cities That Have Fired Their Police Forces

But I really think the GOP should totally embrace the "no cops, firefighters or teachers" strategy. Sounds like a real winner for y'all.

 

[The Rabbi]

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

This time, however, Romney deserves points for honesty: He has forthrightly declared that the class of government workers holding back other Americans does include cops, firefighters and teachers. And in so doing, he has singlehandedly reframed the debate from one over despised government bureaucrats to one over whether we should hire more cops, firefighters and teachers to get the economy going. This is a debate the White House will be happy to have.

Mitt Romney: We don't need more cops, firefighters or teachers - The Washington Post

-----------------------------

Wow, the problem is policemen, firemen and teachers.

Now it's clear why Republicans worked so very hard to keep health care from the first responders. Now, the right wingers at USMB can't possibly say that's not true.

Well--who says--we need more cops--fireman and teachers? Who told you that--and what statistic is that based upon. What if we have enough of the above already---or is this a "feely good" way to waste more taxpayer dollars? It's like saying we need more military--LOL

Cities That Have Fired Their Police Forces

But I really think the GOP should totally embrace the "no cops, firefighters or teachers" strategy. Sounds like a real winner for y'all.

Did you bother to read your own link? In every case law enforcement duties shifted to the county sherriff. In no case were citizens worse off.
FAIL.

 

[Conservative]

who says more will help reduce crime?


Do More Cops Equal Less Crime? - Reason.com

Leading the charge is Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., who sponsored that bill and is pushing legislation to hire another 50,000 officers, at a cost of $3.6 billion over six years, under the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program. He says it was because of the last round of hiring that "murder and violent crime rates went down eight years in a row."

It's hard to find Democrats who differ. Among his co-sponsors are fellow presidential candidates Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Christopher Dodd. The House has already passed a similar measure.

But anyone who expects this approach to work as promised should take a closer look at what actually happened the last time. In the first place, the 1994 bill didn't make good on its goal of adding 100,000 cops to the streets. A study commissioned by the National Institute of Justice estimated it produced a net increase of just 82,000, while allowing that it might have been as few as 69,000.

Those numbers aside, the retreat of lawlessness began before any of those new police were sworn in.

A study by John Worrall and Tomislav Kovandzic of the University of Texas at Dallas, published this year in the journal Criminology, concluded that "COPS grants had no discernible effect on serious crime."

We shouldn't be surprised that adding all those patrol officers would produce little or no improvement. Given the multiple shifts, vacation and sick days, the additional number of personnel on the street at any given moment is only about 10,000, spread across a nation of 300 million people. That's fewer than one extra cop per local police department.

As Worrall and Kovandzic note, the average COPS hiring grant was practically a rounding error, amounting to about one half of one percent of a typical department's annual budget. Expecting that amount of money to have a dramatic effect on crime is like losing a pound and thinking you'll need to have all your pants taken in.

If more cops really translate into safer streets, you would think local taxpayers would be more than willing to bear the expense. But if they don't think their safety is worth what it costs, why should the rest of us foot the bill? The idea that residents of one city can finance their police operations at someone else's expense is a fraud. Everyone gets federal money from the COPS program, but everyone also pays for it.