Today s Solar Panels Can Power The World MIT Study Finds CleanTechnica
How did this story get past Exxon, Mobile, and the Republican Party? Amazing!
How did this story get past Exxon, Mobile, and the Republican Party? Amazing!
Navigation
Install the app
How to install the app on iOS
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
More options
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
MIT study says solar panels can power the world!
- Thread starter JimH52
- Start date
- Thread starter
- #3
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Last edited:
- Sep 14, 2011
- 63,931
- 9,965
- 2,040
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking once cent away from their rich constituents....
Yep, $10MILLION a minute and that's in addition to their enormous profits. Not to mention that we don't need to drill even one more oil well.
No matter your political bent, we all know that fossil fuel is stupid. That's just fact. Solar really is the energy source of the future.
I wonder how many tens of millions of acres we would have to de-forrested to install them.
Of course nothing could grow under the panels because of lack of sunlight.
So the animals and insects that depend on the vegetation would die out.
Basically, this sounds like another looney liberal pipe dream with disaster written all over it. .......
Of course nothing could grow under the panels because of lack of sunlight.
So the animals and insects that depend on the vegetation would die out.
Basically, this sounds like another looney liberal pipe dream with disaster written all over it. .......
Last edited:
JoeMoma
Platinum Member
- Nov 22, 2014
- 22,845
- 10,542
- 950
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
How to those subsidies compare to the amount of taxes paid buy oil companies?
Today s Solar Panels Can Power The World MIT Study Finds CleanTechnica
How did this story get past Exxon, Mobile, and the Republican Party? Amazing!
Yeah, that stuff that never recovers the installation cost is gonna save the planet.
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Today s Solar Panels Can Power The World MIT Study Finds CleanTechnica
The International Energy Agency (IEA) says that the fossil fuel industries receive almost $548 billion in subsidies each year. That’s as of 2013, the latest year for which data is available. The MIT report says those funds must be diverted to clean energy to make the dream of a carbon-free future a reality. The authors say, “Solar electricity generation is one of very few low-carbon energy technologies with the potential to grow to very large scale.” But that growth won’t happen fast enough unless the money to build the solar infrastructure is allocated.
Rather than hoping for new breakthroughs that will lower the cost of solar panels even more, the MIT researchers think our emphasis should be on building a “smart grid” that integrates all of the solar energy available from rooftop solar systems, community solar, and utility-scale solar projects into an efficient whole.
It also denominates the relatively new field of electricity storage as an area where further research could lower costs dramatically. Just as the cost of solar panels has plummeted over the past decade, new battery technology and the economies of scale that flow from greater production will combine to drive down the price of energy storage in the next decade. Batteries are the critical component to bring out solar power’s full potential.
Wind, solar, and geothermal are the future. Fossil fuels are the past. Simple fact the 'Conservatives' cannot accept. For you see, when we talk all these resources, we are talking about consumer also being produces, from the homeowner putting one kilowatt on the grid, to the investor putting one Gw of solar on the grid. That kind of independence is not what the 'Conservatives' want to see. They prefer we all owe our soul to the company store.
The International Energy Agency (IEA) says that the fossil fuel industries receive almost $548 billion in subsidies each year. That’s as of 2013, the latest year for which data is available. The MIT report says those funds must be diverted to clean energy to make the dream of a carbon-free future a reality. The authors say, “Solar electricity generation is one of very few low-carbon energy technologies with the potential to grow to very large scale.” But that growth won’t happen fast enough unless the money to build the solar infrastructure is allocated.
Rather than hoping for new breakthroughs that will lower the cost of solar panels even more, the MIT researchers think our emphasis should be on building a “smart grid” that integrates all of the solar energy available from rooftop solar systems, community solar, and utility-scale solar projects into an efficient whole.
It also denominates the relatively new field of electricity storage as an area where further research could lower costs dramatically. Just as the cost of solar panels has plummeted over the past decade, new battery technology and the economies of scale that flow from greater production will combine to drive down the price of energy storage in the next decade. Batteries are the critical component to bring out solar power’s full potential.
Wind, solar, and geothermal are the future. Fossil fuels are the past. Simple fact the 'Conservatives' cannot accept. For you see, when we talk all these resources, we are talking about consumer also being produces, from the homeowner putting one kilowatt on the grid, to the investor putting one Gw of solar on the grid. That kind of independence is not what the 'Conservatives' want to see. They prefer we all owe our soul to the company store.
- Thread starter
- #11
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
How to those subsidies compare to the amount of taxes paid buy oil companies?
You mean the taxes deferred by oil companies, right. Try again....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
- Thread starter
- #12
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
Old Rocks
Diamond Member
Today s Solar Panels Can Power The World MIT Study Finds CleanTechnica
How did this story get past Exxon, Mobile, and the Republican Party? Amazing!
Yeah, that stuff that never recovers the installation cost is gonna save the planet.
And you are completely full of shit. And a liar to boot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/b...-win-on-price-vs-conventional-fuels.html?_r=0
According to a study by the investment banking firm Lazard, the cost of utility-scale solar energy is as low as 5.6 cents a kilowatt-hour, and wind is as low as 1.4 cents. In comparison, natural gas comes at 6.1 cents a kilowatt-hour on the low end and coal at 6.6 cents. Without subsidies, the firm’s analysis shows, solar costs about 7.2 cents a kilowatt-hour at the low end, with wind at 3.7 cents.
Wind at 3.7 versus dirty coal at 6.6. Solar at 7.2, right now, and dropping in price as we post. Renewables are going to win on economics.
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills.
Hold on, oil companies got to deduct the expense of their equipment purchases off their taxes? Shocking! LOL!
You green idiots are funny. And dummmmmmb.
Today s Solar Panels Can Power The World MIT Study Finds CleanTechnica
How did this story get past Exxon, Mobile, and the Republican Party? Amazing!
Yeah, that stuff that never recovers the installation cost is gonna save the planet.
And you are completely full of shit. And a liar to boot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/b...-win-on-price-vs-conventional-fuels.html?_r=0
According to a study by the investment banking firm Lazard, the cost of utility-scale solar energy is as low as 5.6 cents a kilowatt-hour, and wind is as low as 1.4 cents. In comparison, natural gas comes at 6.1 cents a kilowatt-hour on the low end and coal at 6.6 cents. Without subsidies, the firm’s analysis shows, solar costs about 7.2 cents a kilowatt-hour at the low end, with wind at 3.7 cents.
Wind at 3.7 versus dirty coal at 6.6. Solar at 7.2, right now, and dropping in price as we post. Renewables are going to win on economics.
Without subsidies, the firm’s analysis shows, solar costs about 7.2 cents a kilowatt-hour at the low end, with wind at 3.7 cents.
And when you consider that the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine, your "green power" still fails without taxpayer handouts and government mandates.
- Thread starter
- #16
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills.
Hold on, oil companies got to deduct the expense of their equipment purchases off their taxes? Shocking! LOL!
You green idiots are funny. And dummmmmmb.
Big oil paying 24%? Really?
well wonderful, they can pay for it too. you know that saying. Put their money where their mouths are
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills.
Hold on, oil companies got to deduct the expense of their equipment purchases off their taxes? Shocking! LOL!
You green idiots are funny. And dummmmmmb.
Big oil paying 24%? Really?
Big subsidies? Really?
- Thread starter
- #18
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....oh wait. Repuuuuublicans won't stand for taking one cent away from their rich constituents....
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills.
Hold on, oil companies got to deduct the expense of their equipment purchases off their taxes? Shocking! LOL!
You green idiots are funny. And dummmmmmb.
Big oil paying 24%? Really?
Big subsidies? Really?
Yup, subsidies in excess of $18 Billion Dollars. Sooner or later the American voter will get wise to the fact that the US government is padding the pockets of ultra-wealthy oil executives. Well, all of the American voters except for the FOX News knuckle draggers......
Federal Government Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels
Why not use the subsidies we are handing to the big oil comp.....
Because we aren't handing subsidies to big oil.
I hope your racist eyes can read this....
The Surprising Truth About Oil and Gas Company Corporate Tax Rates - US News
While there are a number of reasons a company may defer tax payments, the companies in our study reported their deferral was almost entirely from “plant, property and equipment.” These companies have spent more in recent years on tangible property (e.g. constructing drilling rigs), and have been able to deduct more from their taxable income as a result, dramatically lowering their federal tax bills.
Hold on, oil companies got to deduct the expense of their equipment purchases off their taxes? Shocking! LOL!
You green idiots are funny. And dummmmmmb.
Big oil paying 24%? Really?
Big subsidies? Really?
Yup, subsidies in excess of $18 Billion Dollars. Sooner or later the American voter will get wise to the fact that the US government is padding the pockets of ultra-wealthy oil executives. Well, all of the American voters except for the FOX News knuckle draggers......
Federal Government Still Spending Billions To Subsidize Fossil Fuels
Fossil Fuel Exploration and Production Subsidies? LOL!
Deducting typical business expenses is not a subsidy and is not exclusive to fossil fuels.
Even money losing "green energy" companies could write off typical business expenses against their profits. If they ever generate any profits.
- May 20, 2009
- 144,256
- 66,560
- 2,330
Was this from the Wheel of Climate Change Crowd at MIT?
Similar threads
- Replies
- 70
- Views
- 2K
- Replies
- 38
- Views
- 523
Latest Discussions
- Replies
- 22
- Views
- 206
Forum List
-
-
-
-
-
Political Satire 8040
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
ObamaCare 781
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Member Usernotes 469
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-