Minn. Jewish leaders Take Stand Against Conservative Christians

[jillian]

poor baby.

 

[California Girl]

poor baby.

Was my question too hard for you, mo chara?

 

[Katzndogz]

Liberal Jews!

Who knew?

 

[GHook93]

Prime example of a Leftist extremist antisemite (has stated he would like to see another holocaust, but ironically denies the first one took place ) like TS420 using the Jews to promote his agenda. He would stab the same Jews through the heart if he had the chance!

yeah, he's a loser. but that doesn't really have anything to do with this particular thread. frankly, i wasn't even paying attention to who started it.

i do see lots of rightwingnut fauxrage, though.

and never forget, the extremists on the right hate you just as much as extremists on the left.

First, I want to point out that Evangelicals ARE NOT the far rightist antisemites you just tried to paint them as! Not even close and it's intellectually dishonest to say so!

Second, if a rightist gets outed as a extremist on the right, they won't sniff a place in office, not even a PTA board seat. Heck they will lose jobs. Society and BOTH political parties shun them. They are still there, but with no power and even DECREASING influence and presence, regardless of what media, ADL or Southern Poverty League says. The right extremist also see Islam as an enemy NOT friend (leftist see Islam not Judaism at the friend).

HOWEVER, a far leftist can spout out the PC antisemitism, which calls itself antizionism, and win elections, get in the US Congress and into the Obama administration. There are Jew haters throughout the left who reach a levels of power. They aren't shunned by Democrats in anyway and many are embraced!

 

[amrchaos]

Got no problem victimizing Catholics though... liberals, not Jews.

i don't see catholics as being victimized. if i did, i'd say something. i also think they'll work out whatever issues exist, like the white house said they would.

you have a problem with jews having to pay parking meters on saturday? on stores being closed on sunday?

so i'd ramp down the hysteria a bit. because no one's religion should be law of the land.

All the Church is asking for is that the government allow insurance companies to offer policies that do not include contraception.... and, given that family planning services are offered free in vast numbers across the country.... I don't see that that is too much to ask... given that it is against our core beliefs to fund those.

You trivialize murdering children all you want by comparing them to parking meters and store opening hours. I won't.

I have a question

Why can't Catholics buy an insurance policy that covers contraceptives and do not use that aspect of the policy?

 

[Truthseeker420]

Prime example of a Leftist extremist antisemite (has stated he would like to see another holocaust, but ironically denies the first one took place ) like TS420 using the Jews to promote his agenda. He would stab the same Jews through the heart if he had the chance!


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St. Paul, Minn. — Rabbis representing Jewish congregations from Duluth to Rochester say they're taking a stand against the ballot measure that would ban same-sex marriage in the state.

Thirty-five rabbis from the Minnesota Rabbinical Association have signed onto a statement opposing the proposed constitutional amendment that will be on the ballot this fall. The group represents conservative, reform and reconstructionist clergy from 15 congregations around the state.

Lynn Liberman, a rabbi at the Beth Jacob congregation in Mendota Heights, co-chairs the group and said the ballot initiative reminds the rabbis of historical discrimination against the Jewish people.

"All the rights that are afforded to all families should not be denied to some," she said. "That's been a principal of Jews and Judaism for hundreds of years, where we felt the challenges of discrimination and do not want to see that perpetuated in our state."

It wasn't easy getting all parties of differing opinions to come together on a single issue, Liberman said.

"But we all really understood the significance of Kavod HaBriyot, of honoring the individual, and of really seeing the rights of all people preserved," she said.

The statement, though, didn't include support from any orthodox clergy.

Minn. Jewish leaders oppose marriage amendment | Minnesota Public Radio News

You lying POS, I haver never said anything against Jewish people. You are one of those sheep that see "ant-semitism" in every corner.

 

[Truthseeker420]

Prime example of a Leftist extremist antisemite (has stated he would like to see another holocaust, but ironically denies the first one took place ) like TS420 using the Jews to promote his agenda. He would stab the same Jews through the heart if he had the chance!

yeah, he's a loser. but that doesn't really have anything to do with this particular thread. frankly, i wasn't even paying attention to who started it.

i do see lots of rightwingnut fauxrage, though.

and never forget, the extremists on the right hate you just as much as extremists on the left.

You too!

 

[California Girl]

i don't see catholics as being victimized. if i did, i'd say something. i also think they'll work out whatever issues exist, like the white house said they would.

you have a problem with jews having to pay parking meters on saturday? on stores being closed on sunday?

so i'd ramp down the hysteria a bit. because no one's religion should be law of the land.

All the Church is asking for is that the government allow insurance companies to offer policies that do not include contraception.... and, given that family planning services are offered free in vast numbers across the country.... I don't see that that is too much to ask... given that it is against our core beliefs to fund those.

You trivialize murdering children all you want by comparing them to parking meters and store opening hours. I won't.

I have a question

Why can't Catholics buy an insurance policy that covers contraceptives and do not use that aspect of the policy?

Because it is against our religion. I appreciate that it is a difficult concept for some... but there are Americans who take their religious beliefs seriously.

Your President guaranteed the Church that he would ensure that the bill would not conflict with our beliefs. He lied. He lied to the face of the Arch Bishop - in the Oval Office, when he asked for, and received, the support of the Church for the bill.

Your President is a liar, and his actions show him to be anti-Catholic.

 

[amrchaos]

All the Church is asking for is that the government allow insurance companies to offer policies that do not include contraception.... and, given that family planning services are offered free in vast numbers across the country.... I don't see that that is too much to ask... given that it is against our core beliefs to fund those.

You trivialize murdering children all you want by comparing them to parking meters and store opening hours. I won't.

I have a question

Why can't Catholics buy an insurance policy that covers contraceptives and do not use that aspect of the policy?

Because it is against our religion. I appreciate that it is a difficult concept for some... but there are Americans who take their religious beliefs seriously.

Your President guaranteed the Church that he would ensure that the bill would not conflict with our beliefs. He lied. He lied to the face of the Arch Bishop - in the Oval Office, when he asked for, and received, the support of the Church for the bill.

Your President is a liar, and his actions show him to be anti-Catholic.

Hold it Cali G

If you do not use that aspect of the policy, how does it conflict with your religion?

Also, what about the Catholics that use contraceptives? Are they then to choose policies as dictated by the church versus one that allows more options for them?

I find that a little wierd. Sorry if I am missing your point, but I just don't see how a insurance policy with provisions that you do not have to access is forcing you against your convictions.

 

[Steiny]

I approve, KassemG is the best gay Jew ever!

 

[Warrior102]

So, now Libs are pro-Israel?

 

[AmericanFirst]

Good for them, but it's a little tough to figure out. The Old Testament speaks against homosexuality multiple times and the New Testament never does, yet this kind of stuff takes place.

They were not speaking as Jewish theologians, but as advocates for civil liberty. The laws of man are not the laws of God, and are to be judged by a different standard.

The law of God trumps the law of man, and God says gay is a sin. God is always right.

 

[California Girl]

I have a question

Why can't Catholics buy an insurance policy that covers contraceptives and do not use that aspect of the policy?

Because it is against our religion. I appreciate that it is a difficult concept for some... but there are Americans who take their religious beliefs seriously.

Your President guaranteed the Church that he would ensure that the bill would not conflict with our beliefs. He lied. He lied to the face of the Arch Bishop - in the Oval Office, when he asked for, and received, the support of the Church for the bill.

Your President is a liar, and his actions show him to be anti-Catholic.

Hold it Cali G

If you do not use that aspect of the policy, how does it conflict with your religion?

Also, what about the Catholics that use contraceptives? Are they then to choose policies as dictated by the church versus one that allows more options for them?

I find that a little wierd. Sorry if I am missing your point, but I just don't see how a insurance policy with provisions that you do not have to access is forcing you against your convictions.

The Church cannot fund insurance policies that provide contraception. It is against our beliefs. Am I not speaking Engish? Perhaps I am accidentally posting in gaelic?

It is not about the provisions - it is about the Church paying for its employees healthcare coverage..... How do I put this.... We. Cannot. Pay. For. Contraception. Any employee who wants contraception covered can leave the Church's employ and get a job elsewhere.

Why the fuck will you people (and by you people I refer to the lying fucks who claim to support freedom - but in practice support it only for themselves).... not compromise?

 

[amrchaos]

So, now Libs are pro-Israel?

Let us be honest.

The only people that are truly "Pro-Israel" are Jews because they have a more pure stake in Israel..

Even some Christians claim to be "Pro-Israel" because they think that Jesus is going to come flying down from heaven and convert all the Jews to christianity. That is not being "Pro-Israel", that is being pro-"Jews for Jesus".

Even I question the purpose of given the old Kingdom back to the Jews(Yeah, yeah, call me an anti-semitie if you really have too). Jews could have lived in relative peace if we would have given them Florida. Of course the Seniors would have went nuts, and let us not talk about our crazy rednecks bitching about relocation. On the other hand, New Israel(Florida) would be a paradise on earth--well, until a hurricane comes along and blow everything out to sea.

 

[amrchaos]

Good for them, but it's a little tough to figure out. The Old Testament speaks against homosexuality multiple times and the New Testament never does, yet this kind of stuff takes place.

They were not speaking as Jewish theologians, but as advocates for civil liberty. The laws of man are not the laws of God, and are to be judged by a different standard.

The law of God trumps the law of man, and God says gay is a sin. God is always right.

Then tell God to enforce his law!

 

[Warrior102]

So, now Libs are pro-Israel?

Let us be honest.

The only people that are truly "Pro-Israel" are Jews because they have a more pure stake in Israel..

Even some Christians claim to be "Pro-Israel" because they think that Jesus is going to come flying down from heaven and convert all the Jews to christianity. That is not being "Pro-Israel", that is being pro-"Jews for Jesus".

Even I question the purpose of given the old Kingdom back to the Jews(Yeah, yeah, call me an anti-semitie if you really have too). Jews could have lived in relative peace if we would have given them Florida. Of course the Seniors would have went nuts, and let us not talk about our crazy rednecks bitching about relocation. On the other hand, New Israel(Florida) would be a paradise on earth--well, until a hurricane comes along and blow everything out to sea.

I've been to Israel, you uneducated, knuckle-dragging inbred. I am also a Christian. And I am also pro-Israel. They are our CLOSEST ally in the region, it's a fantastic place to visit and the women are extremely hot.

Get back to watching Hee Haw or whatever it is you're doing in your trailer, you mouth-breathing inbred.

 

[California Girl]

They were not speaking as Jewish theologians, but as advocates for civil liberty. The laws of man are not the laws of God, and are to be judged by a different standard.

The law of God trumps the law of man, and God says gay is a sin. God is always right.

Then tell God to enforce his law!

He will. And Obama will bow down to Him. Not the other way around.

 

[Warrior102]

He will. And Obama will bow down to Him. Not the other way around.

Don't forget that whole pergatory thing. He's gonna be there awhile.

 

[GHook93]

Prime example of a Leftist extremist antisemite (has stated he would like to see another holocaust, but ironically denies the first one took place ) like TS420 using the Jews to promote his agenda. He would stab the same Jews through the heart if he had the chance!


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Minn. Jewish leaders oppose marriage amendment | Minnesota Public Radio News

You lying POS, I haver never said anything against Jewish people. You are one of those sheep that see "ant-semitism" in every corner.

and

 

[amrchaos]

So, now Libs are pro-Israel?

Let us be honest.

The only people that are truly "Pro-Israel" are Jews because they have a more pure stake in Israel..

Even some Christians claim to be "Pro-Israel" because they think that Jesus is going to come flying down from heaven and convert all the Jews to christianity. That is not being "Pro-Israel", that is being pro-"Jews for Jesus".

Even I question the purpose of given the old Kingdom back to the Jews(Yeah, yeah, call me an anti-semitie if you really have too). Jews could have lived in relative peace if we would have given them Florida. Of course the Seniors would have went nuts, and let us not talk about our crazy rednecks bitching about relocation. On the other hand, New Israel(Florida) would be a paradise on earth--well, until a hurricane comes along and blow everything out to sea.

I've been to Israel, you uneducated, knuckle-dragging inbred. I am also a Christian. And I am also pro-Israel. They are our CLOSEST ally in the region, it's a fantastic place to visit and the women are extremely hot.

Get back to watching Hee Haw or whatever it is you're doing in your trailer, you mouth-breathing inbred.

Israel is surrounded by crazies and you still think it is best for the Jews to stay there.

Let us not forget crazies with nukes and not afraid to die(You keep convincing yourself that Pakistan is not in league with the other muslim nations, but that is no kind of assurance in terms of security.)

I am suggesting that the nation of Israel need to move to region that takes them out of the line of fire, youare arguing to keep them surrounded by a bunch of murderous bastards. Tell me, is that truly a Pro-Israeli position?