Millionaire wants $9 hr autoworkers to take a pay cut

[Seawytch]

China has just imposed a 22% sales tax on all American cars.. Gm has a plant in Chiner... go obamie go.

So does Ford...

SHANGHAI (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on building a third assembly plant in China, ramping up production to meet surging demand in this fast-growing market as the U.S. automaker expands in Asia.

Ford isn't controlled by the Obama administration though.

Neither is GM so stop being silly.

 

[konradv]

China has just imposed a 22% sales tax on all American cars.. Gm has a plant in Chiner... go obamie go.

So does Ford...

SHANGHAI (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on building a third assembly plant in China, ramping up production to meet surging demand in this fast-growing market as the U.S. automaker expands in Asia.

Ford isn't controlled by the Obama administration though.

Right, they're not, so why's Obama getting blamed for GM? Sounds like a business thing, not an Obama thing.

 

[WillowTree]

So does Ford...

SHANGHAI (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. said Friday it plans to spend $490 million on building a third assembly plant in China, ramping up production to meet surging demand in this fast-growing market as the U.S. automaker expands in Asia.

Ford isn't controlled by the Obama administration though.

Neither is GM so stop being silly.

Nope sorry. ford doesn't have it lip prints firmly embedded in obamie's ass, their stockholders, bond holders, and dealerships weren't ripped off.. Ford is a much better company than Geither Motors will ever be.

 

[Brutus]

Only a fool would imagine that free trade somehow means our wages have to equal theirs or theirs have to equal ours.

 

[Seawytch]

Ford isn't controlled by the Obama administration though.

Neither is GM so stop being silly.

Nope sorry. ford doesn't have it lip prints firmly embedded in obamie's ass, their stockholders, bond holders, and dealerships weren't ripped off.. Ford is a much better company than Geither Motors will ever be.

And still Ford has three plants in China. I don't see what GMs need for assistance has to do with either company having plants in China. They are both doing it. Oh wait, I know...it's an Obama Derangement Syndrome deflection. Never mind...

I understand it's like Tourette's. I'm very sorry about your affliction.

 

[kiwiman127]

Only a fool would imagine that free trade somehow means our wages have to equal theirs or theirs have to equal ours.

And that explains flat wages for the working class for the last 30 years.

 

[blastoff]

I feel their pain. It's tough to afford cellphones, HD TVs, computers, internet access, cool wheels for one's ride, tattoos, booze, and other status symbols of poverty on 9 bucks an hour.

 

[Seawytch]

I feel their pain. It's tough to afford cellphones, HD TVs, computers, internet access, cool wheels for one's ride, tattoos, booze, and other status symbols of poverty on 9 bucks an hour.

And here we are back to the "we don't have "truly poor" people in this country because they have refrigerators and fucking microwaves". Jesus fucking Christ on a raft...

 

[Inthemiddle]

I feel their pain. It's tough to afford cellphones, HD TVs, computers, internet access, cool wheels for one's ride, tattoos, booze, and other status symbols of poverty on 9 bucks an hour.

And here we are back to the "we don't have "truly poor" people in this country because they have refrigerators and fucking microwaves". Jesus fucking Christ on a government subsidized raft...

Fixed that for ya.

 

[auditor0007]

The ever accelerating race to the bottom. Soon no one will be able to afford shit... How will that be for business?

Everything is cyclical. We are at the apex of right wing policy, politically speaking. From here we will begin to see a movement back to the center and to reality. Good chance we may actually move much further left than just moving back to the center.

Think about it; at the beginning of the industrial revolution, all the money and power was controlled by the elite. Then came all the social programs, unions, and a great deal of power was moved to the worker and away from the elite. Since Reagan though, we have moved much of the power back to the elite. They have increased their wealth dramatically, while average workers have barely made any headway. The only reason average household income increased over the last thirty years, is that both husband and wife now work, and in some cases they have to work more than full-time jobs. The American worker has been shit on.

So now, as our youngest working generation sees that there is no hope, things will again change. Those in the middle and lower rungs of our society will take back control, and once again we will see a movement that favors the American worker over the greed of the very elite. Many will laugh at this assessment, but believe me, we are very close to seeing many changes and it's not going to be scaling back government.

 

[auditor0007]

China has just imposed a 22% sales tax on all American cars.. Gm has a plant in Chiner... go obamie go.

Looks like China just gave us the answer we need. 22% tax on all Chinese products sold in America. Damn that will be a game changer.

 

[MikeK]

Anyone who agrees with this is just trying to start stuff. That is insane. What do all of you think is a fair wage and benefit for semi-skilled job? carpenters, electricians, mechanics, most factory workers, blue collar stuff? Estimate. Assume that a person paying a portion of benefits.

All wages should be calculated with a formula which is based on an employer's average profit margin. To have employees working for $9 an hour while executives are paid $multi-million+ salaries with $million+ bonuses is an obscene example of capitalist exploitation and is the stuff revolutions are made of.

 

[Seawytch]

The ever accelerating race to the bottom. Soon no one will be able to afford shit... How will that be for business?

Everything is cyclical. We are at the apex of right wing policy, politically speaking. From here we will begin to see a movement back to the center and to reality. Good chance we may actually move much further left than just moving back to the center.

Think about it; at the beginning of the industrial revolution, all the money and power was controlled by the elite. Then came all the social programs, unions, and a great deal of power was moved to the worker and away from the elite. Since Reagan though, we have moved much of the power back to the elite. They have increased their wealth dramatically, while average workers have barely made any headway. The only reason average household income increased over the last thirty years, is that both husband and wife now work, and in some cases they have to work more than full-time jobs. The American worker has been shit on.

So now, as our youngest working generation sees that there is no hope, things will again change. Those in the middle and lower rungs of our society will take back control, and once again we will see a movement that favors the American worker over the greed of the very elite. Many will laugh at this assessment, but believe me, we are very close to seeing many changes and it's not going to be scaling back government.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

"The apex of Right Wing Power"? With a bona fide Commie in the WhiteHouse?
The Car Czar couldn't have reduced the $9/per of the contractual workers had he wanted to. That was something to be settled between GM and the private contractor. GM could have reduced the monies in total paid to the contractor, they could have walked or adjusted accordingly.
GM still has its $29.00 per hour wage force with bennies that bring it into the range of eighty dollars per. Remember, GM is the world's largest consumer of Viagra. The Chinese and the South Koreans both enjoy labor rates in the below $10 per. There's no way he could have fixed that disparity. The only thing that's still keeping GM afloat is the UAW's donations to his campaign and the hope that the members all cast their votes in his direction 2012. Meanwhile take a trip down state route 7 in New Milford, Ct and witness those empty store fronts and all those of what used to be new auto dealerships, now trying to get by selling used vehicles and doing a few repairs here and there. All good republican donors they were. Closed! The money they used to have can now be found in Columbus, Cleveland, and Detroit environs courtesy Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[driveby]

I have to admit, the guy has balls.

The former head of the Obama administration's auto task force says he should have pushed the United Auto Workers for steeper sacrifices in the General Motors bailout, including wage cuts. The people earning $9 a hour in a suburban Detroit GM plant would disagree.

Roughly 900 workers at the top tier, the most senior UAW workers, make $29 an hour, a rate unchanged since 2008. Another 500 or so UAW workers are paid about $16 an hour — a rate, adjusted for inflation, equal to the famed $5 a day Henry Ford started paying his workers in 1914.
And at the bottom scale are 200-odd workers technically employed by an outside supplier but who work in the plant moving parts to the assembly line, jobs once done by GM workers paid $29 an hour. The contractors' pay: $9 an hour with no health care, a rate which over a year's work would leave them below the poverty level for a family of four.

The UAW wants to move tier two workers up in the coming years, while all three Detroit automakers expect to expand the number of workers being paid the lower wage.

Why a millionaire wants autoworkers to take a pay cut | Motoramic - Yahoo! Autos

Pfft, you were one of the clowns that cheered when Obama fucked the bond holders........