And how is Christianity affecting your daily life ? Messing it up something terrible?
Doesn't affect me one iota....
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And how is Christianity affecting your daily life ? Messing it up something terrible?
Doesn't affect me one iota....
Then why don't you rant about something else that does ?
60's riots were over DNC and political things. Apart of Nixon's dirty tricks of memory serves correctlyFrom the French news I saw the youths were saying what a bunch of arseholes the gendarmes were and that was about it. Not one mentioned Islam. The media make it out to be a Muslim issue and therefore interview those organisations (whose down pat answers you and I could give), and then they ask the citizens and non-Muslims (again, you and I could give the down pat answers), but the reality was it wasn't a Muslim thing. You get these riots in many places. The Brixton riots in London in the 1980s were West Indians (mainly), didn't Chicago have a big riot in the 60s??...When you see "over and over we see the same" what do you mean? What other western countries have had Muslims riot due to them being militants and trying to convert the rest of the country??
It fell twice. It has been in plenty of wars where it never fell at all. What France is experiencing is an immigrant population that feels it is being marginalised, and from links a provided in the previous post, it seems that could be true. Unemployment, thinking you are a second-class citizen etc are bound to have negative effects on a society. Being Muslim is secondary, or not even an issue IMO.
I never rant about Christianity. I just don't want it put in legislation. That is all I have ever said about it.
I think radical Christianity and Islam want to duke it out...I say stick them all on an island, give 'em as much ammo as they want....it'll be a pyrric victory at best for the winner...then the rest of us can get about our daily business....
Bullshit---
France hasn't been strong in over a century, and has shown to be weakening increasingly. Muslims attack the weak; hence the current situation. The remainder of Europe is next.
French society is fine relatively speaking. Has the same problem as any society. Radical Islam is hardly on the radar...
Probably for the same reason Chicken Little's like you see them as a threat. They aren't. Show me any tangible evidence that there has been any significant change in Western society due to Islam. hint: there hasn't. It is people like you and Cocky who like to get people in a lather over nothing. Sure there are bad muslims, but there are bad people everywhere. The media doesn't help. Outside of Iraq, more non-muslims are murdered by other non-muslims in the US alone each year, let alone the rest of the western world. It reminds me of a doco on the media I saw five years ago. It was showing how they manipulate a situation. One instance really sticks out. It was in India and showed a Hindu "riot." There was this woman on top of a step ladder yelilng and screaming and getting everybody around her in a frenzy. And I tell you what, they were in a huge frenzy. About 100 of them. Then the camera panned back. There were about 10,000 people there. The other 9,900 odd were just standing there doing nothing, but if the camera had not panned back people would have been left with the impression that there was a huge riot. I see you guys treating Islam the same. It is a crappy religion for sure - the worst even, but the vast majority 99.9% are OK. How many extremist muslims are there? 40,000? 100,000? There are over 1,000,000,000 in the world. The idiots are hardly a drop in the bucket, but you guys like to make them out to be the norm. They are not. And for you Looney Libs who give the Islam fanatics a free pass, see the movie Osama (Osama is a fictional story about a 14 year old girl living under the Taliban, it's not about You Know Who)...
I just wonder what it has to do before complete freakin' morons, such as a few we know and DON'T love, get a clue? Does it take some raghead with an AK-47 on the front step?
I am stuck at 50/50.
From the French news I saw the youths were saying what a bunch of arseholes the gendarmes were and that was about it. Not one mentioned Islam. The media make it out to be a Muslim issue and therefore interview those organisations (whose down pat answers you and I could give), and then they ask the citizens and non-Muslims (again, you and I could give the down pat answers), but the reality was it wasn't a Muslim thing. You get these riots in many places. The Brixton riots in London in the 1980s were West Indians (mainly), didn't Chicago have a big riot in the 60s??...When you see "over and over we see the same" what do you mean? What other western countries have had Muslims riot due to them being militants and trying to convert the rest of the country??
YOu really DO live with your head stuck in the ground, don't you? And your "if it doesn't affect me here and now it doesn't matter" attitude makes you just about as worthless a member of this society as there can be.
As I stated previously, it takes a dude with a bath towel on his and an AK-47 in his hands standing on your front porch before a problem is perceived.
People who think like you have made each and every war we have ever fought a hundred times harder than it should have been simply becuase you refuse to acknowledge a problem until iot suckerpunches your ass and you're left sitting in on the grass in your righteous indignation.
As opposed to your "I'll take a few militant Muslims and make them out to be a threat to world peace" overreaction making you a warmonger??
No, it takes them to be an ongoing threat on a daily basis, or even weekly, or even monthly...which they are not. People died every day durign WWII due to fighting. How many western people are killed in western countries every day, week or month by militant muslims? How many were killed today? This past week? This past month?
That's because people like me think certain wars (Iraq and Viet Nam would be two of those wars) are nobody's business but the countries involved and US servicmen and women's lives are not worth it. The Viet Cong never suckerpunched anybody stateside and sat them on their arse..ditto Cambodia. Militant Islam is a problem...but it's not a big one....
so you dont care if Iran is allowed to go unfettered in obtaining nukes?
That's a different kettle of fish. Do you care? If so, why? If not, why?
As opposed to your "I'll take a few militant Muslims and make them out to be a threat to world peace" overreaction making you a warmonger??
You downplay the threat every bit as much as you exaggerate my position. There is no "few," and I am hardly a warmonger. Try participating in one and maybe you'll figure out what my position is.
The fact is, any and all means of coexistence and diplomacy have been tried for centuries and all have failed. When the talking's done, it's time to rectify a shitty situation. It doesn't get any simpler than THAT.
No, it takes them to be an ongoing threat on a daily basis, or even weekly, or even monthly...which they are not. People died every day durign WWII due to fighting. How many western people are killed in western countries every day, week or month by militant muslims? How many were killed today? This past week? This past month?
They ARE a threat on a daily, monthly, and or weekly basis. They have been a threat for CENTURIES. It must be nice to live in a world of your own making where you can ignore the blatantly obvious because it suits your whimsical ideology.
That's because people like me think certain wars (Iraq and Viet Nam would be two of those wars) are nobody's business but the countries involved and US servicmen and women's lives are not worth it. The Viet Cong never suckerpunched anybody stateside and sat them on their arse..ditto Cambodia. Militant Islam is a problem...but it's not a big one....
French society is fine relatively speaking. .....