Michigan School Shooter's parents James and Jennifer Crumbley get 10-15 year sentences

[WEATHER53]

That's a bridge too far. Look into the facts of the case.

These parents were either on drugs, stoned, or in total denial. The kid was asking, crying out for help long before the shooting. At one point in the testimony, the kid had asked to see a doctor because he was depressed. The kid's ol' man told him to go to his room and "suck it up." The school called the parents in for a conference because of the kid's violent drawings. The parents bought him a gun days before the shooting. No one even looked in the backpack he was carrying.

In general, I think the kids should be held responsible. In this case, the parents went out of their way to ignore a powder keg under their roof.

Times have sure changed. Parents never seemed to defend their kids when there was trouble automatically. When neighbors called my parents, they believed the neighbors. When the police brought me home in Chicago when I was 7, they actually believed the police. I chose the behavior, I chose the consequences.

Parents are required to discern that which a minor can’t. Except for libs who consider that ordinary responsibility too onerous.

 

[blackhawk]

simple solution. Do not have children or associate with anyone that has children. I will keep my truck and my Ruger rifle

Doesn’t seem realistic but good luck with that.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

80% no dad children and a frazzled multiple mates woman. Wish thought and responsibility did not suck so bad for you. Society would benefit greatly

Jim Crow Is the Way to Go

Illegitimacy has nothing to do with it. There is no excuse for teenage feral behavior. It is enabled solely by the rulers' hatred of all other Whites, which makes them turn natural predators loose on us.

Blaming culture is blaming what has always been there and can't be reformed. Special restrictions have to be imposed to close this open door back to the jungle.

 

[iku]

Doesn’t seem realistic but good luck with that.

taking care of it tomorrow morning

 

[Votto]

I think we are starting down a very slippery slope here.

I wouldn't call it a slippery slide, I would call it more of a free fall into the black abyss.

 

[whitehall]

What about the parents of the Columbine shooters or the Sandy Hook shooter? Why weren't they charged?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Not really. Not when you consider this:

The United States has used reparations—targeted initiatives intended to concretely repair a harm against a person or persons resulting from the collective action of others—as a means of acknowledging and atoning for its role in other atrocities, including the internment of Japanese Americans and the forced removal and destruction of six indigenous communities: the Ottawas of Michigan, the Chippewas of Wisconsin, the Seminoles of Florida, the Sioux of South Dakota, the Klamaths of Oregon, and the Alaska Natives.*

How we repair it: White Americans’ attitudes toward reparations | Brookings

Ashley V. Reichelmann and Matthew O. Hunt explore white Americans’ attitudes toward reparative policies and social factors affecting their views.

www.brookings.edu

These are just a few reparations that have been paid out during your lifetime.

1970: Richard Nixon signed into law House Resolution 471 restoring Blue Lake and surrounding area to the Taos Pueblo (New Mexico). The land had been taken by presidential order in 1906. (A History of the Indians in the United States by Angie Debo (Norman, OK: University of Oklahoma Press, 1984, p. 422); see also "Taos Pueblo celebrates 40th anniversary of Blue Lake's return" by Matthew van Buren, Santa Fe New Mexican, September 18, 2010.)

The payments from 1971-1988 are taken from the booklet Black Reparations Now! 40 Acres, $50 Dollars, and a Mule, + Interest by Dorothy Benton-Lewis; and borrowed from N’COBRA (National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America).

1971: Around $1 billion + 44 million acres of land: Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act.

1974: A $10 million out-of-court settlement was reached between the U.S. government and Tuskegee victims, black men who had been unwitting subjects of a study of untreated syphilis, and who did not receive available treatments. (“The Tuskegee Timeline”, CDC, updated March 2, 2020.)

1980: $81 million: Klamaths of Oregon. ("Spending Spree" by Dylan Darling, Herald and News (Klamath Falls, OR), June 21, 2005.)

1980: $105 million: Sioux of South Dakota for seizure of their land. (United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, 448 U.S. 371 (1980).)

1985: $12.3 million: Seminoles of Florida. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1985: $31 million: Chippewas of Wisconsin. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

1986: $32 million per 1836 Treaty: Ottawas of Michigan. (see Racial Justice in America: A Reference Handbook by David B. Mustard, 2002, ABC-CLIO, p. 81.)

2016: The U.S. government reached a settlement of $492 million with 17 Native American tribes to resolve lawsuits alleging the federal government mismanaged tribal land, resources, and money. (“U.S. Government To Pay $492 Million To 17 American Indian Tribes” by Rebecca Hersher, NPR, September 27, 2016.)

2018: The Supreme Court, in a 4-4 deadlock, let stand a lower court's order to the state of Washington to make billions of dollars worth of repairs to roads, where the state had built culverts below road channels and structures in a way that prevented salmon from swimming through and reaching their spawning grounds, that had damaged the state’s salmon habitats and contributed to population loss. The case involved the Stevens Treaties, a series of agreements in 1854-55, in which tribes in Washington State gave up millions of acres of land in exchange for "the right to take fish." Implicit in the treaties, courts would later rule, was a guarantee that there would be enough fish for the tribes to harvest. Destroying the habitat reduces the population and thus violates these treaties. This decision directly affects the Swinomish Tribe. ("A Victory For A Tribe That’s Lost Its Salmon" by John Eligon, The New York Times, June 12, 2018.)
When you don't know about a topic do not offer your opinion until you do the research so that you know that your opinon is valid. Yours is ignorant and it is based on lack of knoweldge to go along with your racist hatred.

Retroactive De-Justification

Those reparations were a mistake, too. As usual, you're using examples of past punishment of White taxpayers by their snobbish, spoiled-putrid feralphile rulers as justification for more reparations giveaways.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Be responsible and raise the children you produce. Dont run and keep playing the errant fertilizer . Accept, acknowledge and correct the problem and you won’t have psycho offspring.

Ambidextrous Fallacy

More contradiction within the agenda. Mandatory abortions would prevent the Baby Mama syndrome.

 

[1srelluc]

From what I've been reading in the "gun community" the sentence was GTG and I agree.

The parents were total dirtbags the way they denied their son mental health treatment. Their gross negligence was of such magnitude that it crossed the line into, effectively, them being Accessories Before The Fact.

Some say they bought him the gun hoping that he would off himself.

The jury saw text messages from the kid to his stepmom, claiming that the house was haunted, and that he was witnessing supernatural occurrences, and he even claimed to have photographed a demon.

He was so terrified that he was staying outside because he was afraid to be home alone in the house. The mother wouldn’t even reply to several frantic messages that he sent her.



OK, so now it's over with.....Now do the parent of black thugs.

 

[odanny]

The jury saw text messages from the kid to his stepmom, claiming that the house was haunted, and that he was witnessing supernatural occurrences, and he even claimed to have photographed a demon.

I didn't know that was his stepmom, I wonder if that could be part of the reason she didn't give a shit about this kid? The father, who bought him the gun, rambled something in court about the parents of the slain kids "not knowing the whole truth" about what went down, like he is not taking responsibility for his role.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Parents are required to discern that which a minor can’t. Except for libs who consider that ordinary responsibility too onerous.

Yes, and think that if a parent tells a boy, "you're not a girl, even if you say you think you are," the kid should report abuse to a school counselor immediately.

 

[JGalt]

Let me guess, this will only apply to white parents.

It shouldn't.

 

[Votto]

It shouldn't.

Then the incarceration rate of blacks will more then double.

I'm sure that will go over well.

And what of those fathers who run from their fatherhood?

Should it be an automatic jail sentence for helping to create a monster?

 

[bambu.]

Who'd be a parent these days?
You need a gun for self defence.
There's stigma about mental illness.
There seems not to be absolute security or much security at most schools.
Where were a metal detector and bag/body searches?

Geez Louise...why wasn't the student immediately removed from the school by the cops and banned from it permanently, when the first sign appeared?

Easy to put all the blame on the parents.

 

[Markle]

What about the parents of the Columbine shooters or the Sandy Hook shooter? Why weren't they charged?

Different state.

 

[Markle]

Who'd be a parent these days?
You need a gun for self defence.
There's stigma about mental illness.
There seems not to be absolute security or much security at most schools.
Where were a metal detector and bag/body searches?

Geez Louise...why wasn't the student immediately removed from the school by the cops and banned from it permanently, when the first sign appeared?

Easy to put all the blame on the parents.

Due process. The kids don't belong to the police.

If you pause and read about the case, you will better understand why both juries, in separate trials, found them guilty. It is scary how many signs they ignored.

 

[odanny]

There seems not to be absolute security or much security at most schools.
Where were a metal detector and bag/body searches?

Geez Louise...why wasn't the student immediately removed from the school by the cops and banned from it permanently, when the first sign appeared?

If I'm not mistaken, the principal and whatever counselor was present when they called in his parents to the school returned the son to class without searching his backpack, if they had of, none of this would have happened, the kid would have been kicked out, never to return, and it would probably have been at least another 6 months to a year before he went on a shooting rampage. Not sure if the school would have been his target but it is very likely.

 

[XponentialChaos]

What about the parents of the Columbine shooters or the Sandy Hook shooter? Why weren't they charged?

Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter, shot his mom in the face four times. Charging her seems like it might be a bit excessive given that she's kind of dead.

The parents of the Columbine shooters didn't supply them with weapons.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

It's plainly an attack on Second amendment rights to make parents responsible for their children's fascination with guns and killing!

Apparently you do not understand the 2nd amendment..don't have one of those in your country, eh?

 

[lantern2814]

Exactly. This street goes both ways

At least it's supposed to.