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Mr. P said:Let there be no mistake here...I'm not playing. So, did anyone say what you
eluded to in this thread or not? You know no one did. So what the hell was your point?
You don't intend to do to this thread what you did to the other do you?
rtwngAvngr said:First of all, can the 'tude. 'Kay, big guy.
This creep is here to force his opinion that religion is ALWAYS a source of tension. My contension that that is not always the case, and furthermore that if it IS the case that religion is causing a problem then the people involve and simply not mature, or perhaps, THEY are intolerant, and oversensitive. The law supports my position. A workplace standard, as we previously discussed, is the perogative solely of the employer, taking into consideration the litigiousness of society and the legal risk level he feels comfortable with, as he decides whether or not to take up the cause of "offense proofing" society which the radical left is pushing. We have a legitimate difference of opinion. Make know mistake that libs will use the fed to make blanket policy if they must. This is how much they hate religion. So if you're comfortable blithely ignoring the decay of the world around then by all means, stand by the wayside, a good, willing to do nothing. That's all it takes.
There is a place for harassment complaints and workplace policy. But a decision as a society that relgious speech is inherently offensive, is a win for beelzebub and his minions. satan rules the world. remember that.
Mr. P said:Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say, but somehow I don't think it has anything to do with the Thread topic.
rtwngAvngr said:I'm saying he's pushing an opinion at odds with the Free Speech our constitution provides us. It's my position that determining as a society that religious speech is inherently offensive is a step in the wrong direction.
I'm also saying that if that's ok with you, then you have a problem.
Said1 said:Are you forgetting he's Canadian? Technically, we don't have freedom of expression here.
I disagree...seem to me he's saying there's a time and place, and that's notrtwngAvngr said:I'm saying he's pushing an opinion at odds with the Free Speech our constitution provides us. It's my position that determining as a society that religious speech is inherently offensive is a step in the wrong direction.
I'm also saying that if that's ok with you, then you have a problem.
Mr. P said:I disagree...seem to me he's saying there's a time and place, and that's not
stifling freedom at all, it's just common sense. For most people anyway.
rtwngAvngr said:It is stifling if you decide the only time and place is in private at home with others of like mind. That is his position. It's stifling. For a society which claims to value free speech and freedom of religion, the two in combination being deemed "unseemly" does not logically follow. Capiche, Morton?
Mr. P said:I disagree...seem to me he's saying there's a time and place, and that's not
stifling freedom at all, it's just common sense. For most people anyway.
Mr. P said:Nope sorry...I think ya got it all wrong. Think harassment, think trespass, think inconsiderate MORON!!.
You can take your " free speech" argument right to the local theater and yell FIRE! Then wait for your arrest.
MissileMan said:You're right, it is a matter of common sense. There can be no argument that certain topics of discussion routinely become divisive. There is a right of freedom of speech, but it is not absolute. Just as one doesn't have the right to yell "fire" in a theater, a reasonable person would agree that one can't use the right of freedom of speech to create a hostile work environment.
A quick example of how religious speech could create a hostile work environment: Two employees having a religious discussion, quoting all of the passages in the bible dealing with homosexuality within hearing range of a third employee who is gay. Or if you prefer same two employees having a discussion of all the wonderful things that the bible says that those who aren't saved have in store for them within earshot of an atheist.rtwngAvngr said:But religion is only perceived as hostile by bigots.
Maybe some complainers should be informed of the western notion of religious tolerance.
MissileMan said:A quick example of how religious speech could create a hostile work environment: Two employees having a religious discussion, quoting all of the passages in the bible dealing with homosexuality within hearing range of a third employee who is gay. Or if you prefer same two employees having a discussion of all the wonderful things that the bible says that those who aren't saved have in store for them within earshot of an atheist.
rtwngAvngr said:But religion is only perceived as hostile by bigots.
Maybe some complainers should be informed of the western notion of religious tolerance.
Shattered said:That one doesn't really hold any water.. If you said that to me, I'd tell you that you're full of shit, since there's no such thing as Heaven, Hell, God, or Satan.. What would I have to be afraid of? When I die, I'm going to have my tail laid out in a nice pine box, and will eventually become worm food. Simple as that.
Shattered said:That one doesn't really hold any water.. If you said that to me, I'd tell you that you're full of shit, since there's no such thing as Heaven, Hell, God, or Satan.. What would I have to be afraid of? When I die, I'm going to have my tail laid out in a nice pine box, and will eventually become worm food. Simple as that.