Meddling in the affairs of Israel

[HereWeGoAgain]

What a muslim thing to do....


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

He's trying his best to piss off all our allies.

 

[Rustic]

What a muslim thing to do....


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Of course he's going to do that, he always meddles in things he does not understand…

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Oh he understands it all right.
He wants a weak Israel....as most muslims/muslim sympathizers do.

 

[Penelope]

What a muslim thing to do....


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Of course he's going to do that, he always meddles in things he does not understand…[/QUOTE

What a muslim thing to do....


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

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Hats off to Pres Obama, but its all hype, what we now send them 4.2 billion a year, oh what a waste of money

 

[TNHarley]

meh. we pretty much built/maintain their military..
I do get your point, just being an ass

 

[BluesLegend]

If there is one thing that absolutely pisses off a liberal, its refusing to do what they say.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Quitting from meddling in Israel's affairs... what a refreshing thought.

 

[amrchaos]

That is not right. We should respect the sovereignty of other nations, more so our allies.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That is not right. We should respect the sovereignty of other nations, more so our allies.

Not to mention the expenditure of our tax dollars.

 

[Penelope]

That is not right. We should respect the sovereignty of other nations, more so our allies.

And they should respect us, and get out of our business with their AIPAC lobbyist. Israel has done nothing for the US except cost us taxpayers money and life's.

 

[Snouter]

He's trying his best to piss off all our allies.

And jews/zionists don't meddle in the affairs of the USA?

 

[Coyote]

Israelis have been intervening in American politics for years. But do Americans intrude in Israeli politics?

You bet we do.

I can recall at least three occasions when Republican and Democratic administrations willfully picked Israeli favorites and tried to shape election outcomes.


The first example didn’t occur in the immediate run-up to an election. But it certainly contributed, and purposely so, to the defeat of the tough Likud hardliner Yitzhak Shamir in 1992.

Relations between the first President Bush and Prime Minister Shamir never really clicked, primarily because of the settlements issue. Foreign Minister Moshe Arens warned Shamir on the eve of his first visit to Washington in 1989 that the Bushies would cut his balls off, and the tone of the relationship didn’t get much better after that. The president came to believe Shamir misled him on the settlement issue, or flat-out lied to him.


Ultimately the question focused on Israel’s request for billions in housing loan guarantees to help absorb Russian Jews. In view of Israel’s continuation of constructing settlements and the timing of the upcoming Madrid peace conference, neither the president nor Secretary of State James Baker would agree to put up American credit. With congressional consent, the issue was postponed until early 1992 and even then the administration insisted on conditions that Shamir would never accept.

Baker’s intention was clear: He would not give Shamir the loan guarantees if it would help him politically in what was to become an election battle that year with Rabin. (It was no coincidence that Baker’s memoir was titled The Politics of Diplomacy.) Two months after Rabin’s victory, the new prime minister signed an agreement with President Bush for the loan guarantees. Did U.S. actions help defeat Shamir? You bet they did. The perception that Shamir had mismanaged Israel’s ties with the U.S. hurt him badly. And the Bush administration helped orchestrate that.


The second intervention was much more blatant and actually occurred in the middle of an election campaign. Like Bush 41 and Shamir, Bill Clinton and Benjamin Netanyahu were not exactly soul mates. In June 1996, after their first meeting, Clinton, frustrated by Bibi’s brashness, exploded: “Who’s the fucking superpower here?”

You can see why relations were tense. For the preceding two months, Clinton had done everything he could to tip the election to Shimon Peres, a caretaker prime minister, in the wake of Rabin’s assassination by an Israeli radical in November 1995.

Clinton had persuaded Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak to convene a Summit of the Peacemakers in Egypt in an effort to save the peace process and Peres, too, after a series of Hamas terror attacks. When Peres visited Washington, Clinton went out of his way to praise Peres’s leadership and insisted on referring to the upcoming election in a reference that all but said “vote for Peres if you’re serious about peace.” There was even a Peres-inspired suggestion, weeks before the May election, that the U.S. move its embassy to Jerusalem. The idea never made it to Clinton. But if it had, Clinton might very well have gone for it to help Peres win the election. And, still, Netanyahu won.


Clinton, who had an extraordinarily close relationship with Rabin (he wrote in his memoirs that he loved Rabin as he had loved no man), was fervently committed to Israel and those Israelis he believed were willing to take real risks for peace. Indeed in what was a true Hail Mary pass, in December 2000, a month before his term ran out, the president was prepared to fly to Israel to broker an agreement between Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, not least in order to help Barak defeat Ariel Sharon in elections scheduled for February 2001. But the deal foundered and Barak lost....

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Kind of odd to be suddenly outraged about it now...but not outraged about it when it occurred in other administrations and especially not to be outraged in Israel's intervening in our own politics

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

As long as they try to influence Israel in a way that benefits the U.S.

 

[Penelope]

Israel really does not like any US President who tries to make peace and talks about a 2 state position. Why? They do not want a 2 state , they want all of Israel, the west bank and Gaza, along with western Syria and Southern Lebanon. Then who knows, they will not stop, and we are giving them all the fire power they will need take control of all that land. They begin wars, soon they will do a false flag with Lebanon, since Syria is now weakening Hezbollah. They will also attack Gaza again. The writing is on the wall. They will start WWIII.

 

[NYcarbineer]

How many taxpayer dollars did Bush spend meddling in Iraqi affairs?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If there is one thing that absolutely pisses off a liberal, its refusing to do what they say.

Keep posting. that's an order.

 

[Vigilante]

NY PostHB ^ | July 12, 2016 | Bob Fredericks
State Department grants that were supposed to aid peace negotiations between the Israelis and Palestinians also helped an effort to oust Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a Senate investigation confirmed Tuesday. Nearly $350,000 in grants were awarded to OneVoice, a US- and UK-based nonprofit that helped another group, Victory15, an Israeli PAC that led a get-out-the-vote drive aimed at electing “anybody but Bibi [Netanyahu]” in the 2015 election, according to the report by the Senate’s permanent subcommittee on investigations.

 

[skye]

I said it before and will say it again! (and again and again...)

His name is not Hussein for nothing.

 

[Preacher]

What a muslim thing to do....


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu

Aipac controls congress of the US so what's fair is fair