Measuring success in Afghanistan withdrawal

[citygator]

A successful withdrawal of Afghanistan will be if every American soldier and civil service worker gets out alive. How else will you measure success?

 

[SweetSue92]

A successful withdrawal of Afghanistan will be if every American soldier and civil service worker gets out alive. How else will you measure success?

The Taliban has our guns, weapons, vehicles. Even IF we get every American and ally out....there's that.

This is an epic catastrophe. If you're not getting it yet, turn over to Morning Joe and witness their long faces. They're not even trying.

 

[kyzr]

Success is when a withdrawal happens and there is no chaos. Trump took the US troop level from 50,000 to 2,500 and it went smoothly.
So why didn't Xiden take the last 2,500 out by May 1st along with the embassy staff?
Last month Xiden said the AFG army would defeat the Taliban, so did Milley.
We don't have everyone out of AFG yet, so don't count your chickens...

 

[kyzr]

The Taliban has our guns, weapons, vehicles. Even IF we get every American and ally out....there's that.

This is an epic catastrophe. If you're not getting it yet, turn over to Morning Joe and witness their long faces. They're not even trying.

I saw that on morning joe, their scroll was "catastrophe" in AFG. I was surprised they didn't put more of a positive spin on it.

 

[JLW]

A successful withdrawal of Afghanistan will be if every American soldier and civil service worker gets out alive. How else will you measure success?

That is about it. A very low bar. Fareed Zakaria said it best on CNN last night, “There is no elegant way to lose a war.”

 

[SweetSue92]

I saw that on morning joe, their scroll was "catastrophe" in AFG. I was surprised they didn't put more of a positive spin on it.

They honestly might be prepared to throw Biden over--literally or figuratively--in order to save whatever is left of their chances for 2022 and 2024

 

[SweetSue92]

That is about it. A very low bar. Fareed Zakaria said it best on CNN last night, “There is no elegant way to lose a war.”

Do not for one second mistake this. The vast majority of the American people would have been behind "we've done all we can here; time to withdraw"--which is NOT a loss.

What Biden did?

Loss. That's on HIM.

 

[Anomalism]

This is an epic catastrophe.

Not for us. I think the removal of our troops needed to happen and that there was not going to be a good time.

 

[JLW]

Do not for one second mistake this. The vast majority of the American people would have been behind "we've done all we can here; time to withdraw"--which is NOT a loss.

What Biden did?

Loss. That's on HIM.

I actually agree with you. It was time to get out of that quagmire. It was a road to nowhere.

 

[Anomalism]

What Biden did?

And what would you have done differently, sweet Sue?

 

[SweetSue92]

Not for us. I think the removal of our troops needed to happen and that there was not going to be a good time.

I don't disagree re: leaving Afghanistan. Leaving THE WAY we did is the issue. I have said this many times and heard it repeated many more.

 

[SweetSue92]

And what would you have done differently, sweet Sue?

Not left our people, allies, weapons, vehicles and other treasure back on the ground. With no plans in place. Obviously.

 

[Anomalism]

Leaving THE WAY we did is the issue.

Yes.

I am asking which way you would have left. How should it have been done, General Sue?

 

[Meathead]

A successful withdrawal of Afghanistan will be if every American soldier and civil service worker gets out alive. How else will you measure success?

Your threshold of success is certainly Bidenian.

 

[JLW]

I don't disagree re: leaving Afghanistan. Leaving THE WAY we did is the issue. I have said this many times and heard it repeated many more.

I agree with you. The way we left was an absolute disaster. We should have left in December not August. I think however no matter how or when we would have withdrawn, the Taliban still would have overrun the Country in months, if not, days.

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes.

I am asking which way you would have left. How should it have been done, General Sue?

Already answered

 

[Anomalism]

Already answered

There were no details at all. You provided nothing of what you would have done different, other than saying it would be different. I think you're all talk and no substance, Sue.

 

[SweetSue92]

I agree with you. The way we left was an absolute disaster. We should have left in December not August. I think however no matter how or when we would have withdrawn, the Taliban still have overrun the Country in months, if not, days.

That might be, and in the case of: we got our people and our allies and our equipment out, and THEN the Afghans ceded to the Taliban--so be it.

But that was far, far from what happened.

 

[SweetSue92]

There were no details at all. You provided nothing of what you would have done different, other than saying it would be different. I think you're all talk and no substance, Sue.

I think we funnel billions and billions of dollars to the Pentagon to figure out these details. That's first. Second, I think it's pathetic that you're attempting to be Biden's lackey. Third, I highly suspect you're not even American.

So rly

 

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