Massive Antarctic Glacier Has Entered Irriversible Melt, Could Add Up To 1 Centimeter

[skookerasbil]

Why don't you take up predictions from the IPCC reports??

LOL......


The AGW OCD's hate when they are made to look like dicks. But since nobody in the msm ever provides the public with this stuff, that's where I come in!!!!

 

[Old Rocks]

Well now, we have the usual suspects talking about lack of prediciton. So, let's see how this 'cooling' period works out in 2014. Really worked out well for you guys in 2013. Warmest years, #1, 2010, #2 2005, #3, 1998, #4, 2013. Bet 2014 replaces one of these numbers, and possibly comes in at #1.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

 

[SwimExpert]

When ice ages have warm periods, glaciers melt. It also happens when ice ages are moving toward an ending.

Trouble with that is that the Milankovitch cycles won't hit a combined minimum for another 10,000 years.

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Climate change is caused by a combination of many factors. There is no one thing that drives climate change. Except for the possibility of a catastrophic event like a massive impact, there is no one thing that causes ice ages. There is no one thing that causes ice ages to end.

 

[SwimExpert]

A massive river of ice, the glacier by itself is responsible for 20 percent of total ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet today.
On average, it shed 20 billion tonnes of ice annually from 1992-2011, a loss that is likely to increase up to and above 100 billion tonnes each year, said the study.
This is equivalent to 3.5-10 millimetres (0.14-0.4 inches) of global average sea-level rise over the next 20 years.
The global mean sea level rose by 3.2 mm in 2010—itself a near-doubling from the rate of two decades earlier.
The European Space Agency said last month that the West Antarctic ice sheet was shedding ice at a much faster rate than before—currently at about 150 cubic kilometres (36 cubic miles) per year.
Climate scientists are keeping a worried eye on the mighty ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica, as continued losses could threaten vulnerable coastal cities with dangerously high sea levels.
Last year, the United Nations' climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected sea levels would rise between 26 and 82 centimetres (10.4 and 32.8 inches) by 2100.


Read more at: Giant Antarctic glacier beyond point of no return, research says

A doubling in two decades. Suppose that turns out to be the rate of increase. By 2033, 6.8 mm per year. By 2073, 27.2 mm per year. And that is without any nasty surprises from some of the massive ice shelves.

You do realize that this entire affair has nothing to do with warming, right?

 

[007]

Two pages and 45 posts later, and little Matty hasn't stopped back to his thread once to defend it.

Now I don't know about you, but hey, I really think little Matty believes what he posts... pfft...

 

[PredFan]

In the same way that weather in one area doesn't confirm or debunk AGW one glacier's melt does not support AGW. Glaciers recede and advance all the time, often independently of each other.

 

[flacaltenn]

A massive river of ice, the glacier by itself is responsible for 20 percent of total ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet today.
On average, it shed 20 billion tonnes of ice annually from 1992-2011, a loss that is likely to increase up to and above 100 billion tonnes each year, said the study.
This is equivalent to 3.5-10 millimetres (0.14-0.4 inches) of global average sea-level rise over the next 20 years.
The global mean sea level rose by 3.2 mm in 2010—itself a near-doubling from the rate of two decades earlier.
The European Space Agency said last month that the West Antarctic ice sheet was shedding ice at a much faster rate than before—currently at about 150 cubic kilometres (36 cubic miles) per year.
Climate scientists are keeping a worried eye on the mighty ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica, as continued losses could threaten vulnerable coastal cities with dangerously high sea levels.
Last year, the United Nations' climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected sea levels would rise between 26 and 82 centimetres (10.4 and 32.8 inches) by 2100.


Read more at: Giant Antarctic glacier beyond point of no return, research says

A doubling in two decades. Suppose that turns out to be the rate of increase. By 2033, 6.8 mm per year. By 2073, 27.2 mm per year. And that is without any nasty surprises from some of the massive ice shelves.

A doubling of WHAT? the melt rate of Pine Island Glacier? Or Sea Level Rate? This little glacier may be responsible for "20% of the Antarctic melt" stream, but it ALONE aint gonna do JACK SHIT to global sea levels.. Get a grip.. Better YET -- get your bearings, go on Google Earth -- Find Pine Island and LOOK at this miniscule part of that continent.

To give you CONTEXT for that photo --- here's a map... PIG MARKS THE SPOT..

Women and children and warmers FIRST -- to the shuttle craft -- The mother ship is coming.

 

[flacaltenn]

The only reason they concentrate on that one TEEENSY TINY part of Antarctic ice shelf right now -- is because ITS DRAMATIC. And it's "DOING SOMETHING".. Because it's got an unstable footing in the ocean. So it's the Polar Bear on the IceBerg campaign all over again..

 

[orogenicman]

A massive river of ice, the glacier by itself is responsible for 20 percent of total ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet today.
On average, it shed 20 billion tonnes of ice annually from 1992-2011, a loss that is likely to increase up to and above 100 billion tonnes each year, said the study.
This is equivalent to 3.5-10 millimetres (0.14-0.4 inches) of global average sea-level rise over the next 20 years.
The global mean sea level rose by 3.2 mm in 2010—itself a near-doubling from the rate of two decades earlier.
The European Space Agency said last month that the West Antarctic ice sheet was shedding ice at a much faster rate than before—currently at about 150 cubic kilometres (36 cubic miles) per year.
Climate scientists are keeping a worried eye on the mighty ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica, as continued losses could threaten vulnerable coastal cities with dangerously high sea levels.
Last year, the United Nations' climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected sea levels would rise between 26 and 82 centimetres (10.4 and 32.8 inches) by 2100.


Read more at: Giant Antarctic glacier beyond point of no return, research says

A doubling in two decades. Suppose that turns out to be the rate of increase. By 2033, 6.8 mm per year. By 2073, 27.2 mm per year. And that is without any nasty surprises from some of the massive ice shelves.

A doubling of WHAT? the melt rate of Pine Island Glacier? Or Sea Level Rate? This little glacier may be responsible for "20% of the Antarctic melt" stream, but it ALONE aint gonna do JACK SHIT to global sea levels.. Get a grip.. Better YET -- get your bearings, go on Google Earth -- Find Pine Island and LOOK at this miniscule part of that continent.

To give you CONTEXT for that photo --- here's a map... PIG MARKS THE SPOT..

Women and children and warmers FIRST -- to the shuttle craft -- The mother ship is coming.

Do you really want to stick with your claim that melting 192 cubic miles of glacial ice would have NO effect on sea level? Really? REALLY? What drugs have you been taking?

 

[mamooth]

Once more, the denialists have proven their skill at hysterics and red herrings. It's probably not what they set out to do, but at least they accomplished something.

 

[IanC]

WAG- wild ass guesses.

The equipment in place to measure ice movement have very few data points. It is easy to adjust them to preconceptions.

Also, if the tips of floating ice shelves didn't break off occasionally they would stretch to the tropics.

 

[orogenicman]

WAG- wild ass guesses.

The equipment in place to measure ice movement have very few data points. It is easy to adjust them to preconceptions.

Do you have any evidence that supports your implication that any of that data has been altered to fit someone's preconceptions?

Also, if the tips of floating ice shelves didn't break off occasionally they would stretch to the tropics.

They have before.

 

[flacaltenn]

A massive river of ice, the glacier by itself is responsible for 20 percent of total ice loss from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet today.
On average, it shed 20 billion tonnes of ice annually from 1992-2011, a loss that is likely to increase up to and above 100 billion tonnes each year, said the study.
This is equivalent to 3.5-10 millimetres (0.14-0.4 inches) of global average sea-level rise over the next 20 years.
The global mean sea level rose by 3.2 mm in 2010—itself a near-doubling from the rate of two decades earlier.
The European Space Agency said last month that the West Antarctic ice sheet was shedding ice at a much faster rate than before—currently at about 150 cubic kilometres (36 cubic miles) per year.
Climate scientists are keeping a worried eye on the mighty ice sheets of Greenland and Antarctica, as continued losses could threaten vulnerable coastal cities with dangerously high sea levels.
Last year, the United Nations' climate science body, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) projected sea levels would rise between 26 and 82 centimetres (10.4 and 32.8 inches) by 2100.


Read more at: Giant Antarctic glacier beyond point of no return, research says

A doubling in two decades. Suppose that turns out to be the rate of increase. By 2033, 6.8 mm per year. By 2073, 27.2 mm per year. And that is without any nasty surprises from some of the massive ice shelves.

A doubling of WHAT? the melt rate of Pine Island Glacier? Or Sea Level Rate? This little glacier may be responsible for "20% of the Antarctic melt" stream, but it ALONE aint gonna do JACK SHIT to global sea levels.. Get a grip.. Better YET -- get your bearings, go on Google Earth -- Find Pine Island and LOOK at this miniscule part of that continent.

To give you CONTEXT for that photo --- here's a map... PIG MARKS THE SPOT..

Women and children and warmers FIRST -- to the shuttle craft -- The mother ship is coming.

Do you really want to stick with your claim that melting 192 cubic miles of glacial ice would have NO effect on sea level? Really? REALLY? What drugs have you been taking?

Draw me the surface equivalent of 192 cubic miles of PIG ice on that map of Antarctica and I'll tell ya if im worried.. My guess is -- it would look like one ice cube in my 32 Oz sweet tea.

 

[flacaltenn]

Once more, the denialists have proven their skill at hysterics and red herrings. It's probably not what they set out to do, but at least they accomplished something.

THEN DO SOMETHING about it.. Smite us with your mighty knowledge. Silence our tongues from speaking evil.. Don't just sit there and cough up hairballs.

 

[orogenicman]

A doubling of WHAT? the melt rate of Pine Island Glacier? Or Sea Level Rate? This little glacier may be responsible for "20% of the Antarctic melt" stream, but it ALONE aint gonna do JACK SHIT to global sea levels.. Get a grip.. Better YET -- get your bearings, go on Google Earth -- Find Pine Island and LOOK at this miniscule part of that continent.

To give you CONTEXT for that photo --- here's a map... PIG MARKS THE SPOT..

Women and children and warmers FIRST -- to the shuttle craft -- The mother ship is coming.

Do you really want to stick with your claim that melting 192 cubic miles of glacial ice would have NO effect on sea level? Really? REALLY? What drugs have you been taking?

Draw me the surface equivalent of 192 cubic miles of PIG ice on that map of Antarctica and I'll tell ya if im worried.. My guess is -- it would look like one ice cube in my 32 Oz sweet tea.

Since most of that glacier is not located on the surface of the ocean, your analogy is irrelevant.

 

[flacaltenn]

WAG- wild ass guesses.

The equipment in place to measure ice movement have very few data points. It is easy to adjust them to preconceptions.

Do you have any evidence that supports your implication that any of that data has been altered to fit someone's preconceptions?

Also, if the tips of floating ice shelves didn't break off occasionally they would stretch to the tropics.

They have before.

So what? You want that should happen AGAIN? Is a requirement for optimal Earth Climate?

 

[SwimExpert]

I have to admit, this does not appear very scary to me.

 

[flacaltenn]

Do you really want to stick with your claim that melting 192 cubic miles of glacial ice would have NO effect on sea level? Really? REALLY? What drugs have you been taking?

Draw me the surface equivalent of 192 cubic miles of PIG ice on that map of Antarctica and I'll tell ya if im worried.. My guess is -- it would look like one ice cube in my 32 Oz sweet tea.

Since most of that glacier is not located on the surface of the ocean, your analogy is irrelevant.

Draw it for me man.. Put it on a map of the global oceans.. Let's not pretend that the PIG would NEVER be shedding water and ice if it was only 1degC COLDER down there..

 

[PredFan]

<facepalm>

This is not the first time a glacier has melted. Come on people, really?

 

[SwimExpert]

Do you really want to stick with your claim that melting 192 cubic miles of glacial ice would have NO effect on sea level? Really? REALLY? What drugs have you been taking?

That would be approximately .001% of the earth's yearly rainfall. Just to put it into some perspective.