'marijuana legalization'/regulation, is that the 'right' human question?

[DNAprotection]

I put this together from something old and something new, something borrowed and something red white and blue...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the Constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX,
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
--Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.

if you agree with the above declaration then please consider signing this, either link will get you there, thanks...

Short URL: http://wh.gov/lnb4s
Save and Share this URL: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...-plants-pursuit-life-and-effort-live/yPP7lQxX

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Recognize the naturally endowed human right to grow and use plants in pursuit of life and in effort to live

Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Created: Feb 08, 2014
Issues:Agriculture, Human Rights, Natural Resources

 

[g5000]

Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil

What the hell are you smoking, son?

Partner with the soil? What next, marrying your shovel?

It just ain't natural!

 

[DNAprotection]

Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil

What the hell are you smoking, son?

Partner with the soil? What next, marrying your shovel?

It just ain't natural!

lol actually i would ask what you are smoking son, if you really think thats what that means?
I guess if taken out of context (as you have done above) its easy to make anything mean something else

 

[TakeAStepBack]

They (the federal government) doesn't give two shits about your rights. What they care about is preserving power and revenue to their most treasured State and themselves. Petitioning the federal government on a greivance of restoring a natural right in 2014 is like petitioning the King back when this country was founded.

They will laugh at you. Period.

 

[DNAprotection]

They (the federal government) doesn't give two shits about your rights. What they care about is preserving power and revenue to their most treasured State and themselves. Petitioning the federal government on a greivance of restoring a natural right in 2014 is like petitioning the King back when this country was founded.

They will laugh at you. Period.

Not that I disagree in the slightest, and the petition is more of a conversation starter than anything else, but that being said, this thread is not meant to be about what 'they' (the feds/corpsgov) cares about, its meant to be about what you care about and I'm just trying to find out if you care about some of the same things I care about
If there is enough support for this simple imo 'truth' then I am actually considering filing a federal case to seek remedy/restoration etc...and such would not be done with any illusion that to 'win' or 'lose' the case is the reason for filing, the reason for filing (beside it simply being the right thing to do) would again be an attempt to shift peoples thinking about the issue etc...

 

[KNB]

This is the number one most important piece of evidence in favor of the legalization of Cannabis Sativa:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngc0_mQ5tjE]Hemp For Victory (1942) U.S. Department of Agriculture - YouTube[/ame]

Our government kept any mention of this program out of our history books for the past 70 years specifically because it destroys every argument ever made against "Marihuana."

This is five years AFTER marijuana was outlawed as the most dangerous drug ever known.

There is no logical argument in favor of the drug war, but against all decency and common sense, the US Federal government keeps the drug war going. Marijuana grows everywhere all the time. There is an endless "war" to make money off of. It is big business that those in that business are not going to relinquish control of. Police unions and budgets, the DoD budget, international arms sales, international pharmaceutical sales, the profit-prison industry, etc. etc. are all tied in to the drug war. They have the money to lobby Congress to keep it illegal. While we are making steady progress towards legalization, it is best that we simply don't wait for the law to allow us to do the right thing.

Grow Cannabis everywhere that it can grow. If any cops or Conservatives try to stop you, direct them to the 1942 USDA Hemp For Victory film so that they can see for themselves that "Marihuana" is not a threat to American society.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Of course I care about liberty. But filing a federal case would be a waste of time. it's already been done plenty of times over.

 

[DNAprotection]

This is the number one most important piece of evidence in favor of the legalization of Cannabis Sativa:

Hemp For Victory (1942) U.S. Department of Agriculture - YouTube

Our government kept any mention of this program out of our history books for the past 70 years specifically because it destroys every argument ever made against "Marihuana."

This is five years AFTER marijuana was outlawed as the most dangerous drug ever known.

There is no logical argument in favor of the drug war, but against all decency and common sense, the US Federal government keeps the drug war going. Marijuana grows everywhere all the time. There is an endless "war" to make money off of. It is big business that those in that business are not going to relinquish control of. Police unions and budgets, the DoD budget, international arms sales, international pharmaceutical sales, the profit-prison industry, etc. etc. are all tied in to the drug war. They have the money to lobby Congress to keep it illegal. While we are making steady progress towards legalization, it is best that we simply don't wait for the law to allow us to do the right thing.

Grow Cannabis everywhere that it can grow. If any cops or Conservatives try to stop you, direct them to the 1942 USDA Hemp For Victory film so that they can see for themselves that "Marihuana" is not a threat to American society.

While I completely appreciate your motivation and your info (such is quite old news to me, like 20-30 years old lol), it appears your post is more spam than anything else as it has no real relation to the thread question imo

 

[DNAprotection]

Of course I care about liberty. But filing a federal case would be a waste of time. it's already been done plenty of times over.

I beg to differ, I researched this area of law for many many years now and I'm sorry to say that such litigation has not been done, not on this.
Wickard v Filburn is where one begins to see arguments that reach but fall short of that which I propose, and of course said case was entirely weighed upon by certain factors that simply would be non existent in a better 'standing' scenario etc...
It would probably take me more words than you would want to read to fully explain but you would need to be familiar with the standards of achieving the 'standing' to even file a case to fully begin to understand...

 

[whitehall]

Just this week the federal government unveiled a billion dollar ad campaign to eliminate a freaking legal product, tobacco, and at the same time refused to enforce laws already on the books regarding marijuana. Sometimes it looks like the federal government is bi-polar.

 

[DNAprotection]

Just this week the federal government unveiled a billion dollar ad campaign to eliminate a freaking legal product, tobacco, and at the same time refused to enforce laws already on the books regarding marijuana. Sometimes it looks like the federal government is bi-polar.

All such examples are just reasons that go to justify the need for the declaration in the op...

 

[Katzndogz]

Just this week the federal government unveiled a billion dollar ad campaign to eliminate a freaking legal product, tobacco, and at the same time refused to enforce laws already on the books regarding marijuana. Sometimes it looks like the federal government is bi-polar.

Of course. It makes perfect sense. It's not getting rid of tobacco. It's replacing tobacco with marijuana. Tobacco produces no cognitive impairment. Marijuana does. If those in power want a population, the majority of which exhibits confusion and poor judgment, then it will naturally want a product that produces confusion and poor judgment.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil

What the hell are you smoking, son?

Partner with the soil? What next, marrying your shovel?

It just ain't natural!

"Marrying your shovel" made me laugh.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

I put this together from something old and something new, something borrowed and something red white and blue...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the Constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX,
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
--Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.

if you agree with the above declaration then please consider signing this, either link will get you there, thanks...

Short URL: http://wh.gov/lnb4s
Save and Share this URL: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...-plants-pursuit-life-and-effort-live/yPP7lQxX

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Recognize the naturally endowed human right to grow and use plants in pursuit of life and in effort to live

Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Created: Feb 08, 2014
Issues:Agriculture, Human Rights, Natural Resources

Decriminalizing things on the Federal level isn't something the President can do. He can be for it, but ultimately it's for Congress to do. And getting Congress to ever do the right thing is like trying to get cats to march in a parade. If it doesn't benefit them financially, or with votes, they are not gonna do it. And making plants legal for private/personal use would threaten Big Pharma who donate to lawmakers. Can make all the petitions you want, make perfectly valid arguements and give good reasons to do it, but ultimately, you're only wasting your time.

 

[DNAprotection]

I put this together from something old and something new, something borrowed and something red white and blue...

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the Constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX,
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
--Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.

if you agree with the above declaration then please consider signing this, either link will get you there, thanks...

Short URL: http://wh.gov/lnb4s
Save and Share this URL: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...-plants-pursuit-life-and-effort-live/yPP7lQxX

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Recognize the naturally endowed human right to grow and use plants in pursuit of life and in effort to live

Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Created: Feb 08, 2014
Issues:Agriculture, Human Rights, Natural Resources

Decriminalizing things on the Federal level isn't something the President can do. He can be for it, but ultimately it's for Congress to do. And getting Congress to ever do the right thing is like trying to get cats to march in a parade. If it doesn't benefit them financially, or with votes, they are not gonna do it. And making plants legal for private/personal use would threaten Big Pharma who donate to lawmakers. Can make all the petitions you want, make perfectly valid arguements and give good reasons to do it, but ultimately, you're only wasting your time.

The petition is just a conversation starter in effort to discuss the topic in a different vain...the more legitimate effort of course is to file a fed case based on such wording...

 

[DNAprotection]

here is the rest of the story concerning the proposal in cali...

-Lake County 'Freedom to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative 11564-
Whereas on this day of November 4, 2014, in the State of California, the people of the County of Lake do hereby find and declare that:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the Constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX,
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
And, also in accordance with the California State Constitution's Article 1 Declaration of Rights:
Section 21., ...
"This declaration of rights may not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people."
And,
--Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:
(section) 1.
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
(section) 1.(a)
All County of Lake residents who exercise the rights described in section 1., and are compliant with section 2.(a), and are gardening outside (outdoor) or in green houses, are exempt from any county permitting or other county ordinances that would limit an individuals home gardening efforts in conjunction with section 1.
(section) 1.(b)
The County of Lake shall encourage and cooperate with people exercising the rights described in section 1 in every way available, and individuals exercising such rights in effort to grow food for their own consumption shall be exempt from paying for the portion of their water use that goes to water such food gardens, and such exemptions are to be determined based on garden size and the reasonable amount of water it takes to maintain such, and also based on the physical increase in water usage that exceeds the normal average water usage of the particular household without a food garden.
(section) 2.
Should neighbor complaints that are not related to section 2.(a), or are not related to a specific medically verifiable toxic health risk to the public arise as an official complaint to the county as a result of individuals exercising the rights as described in section 1., (not withstanding any effected party choosing to seek remedy and or reparations by way of litigation through civil proceedings), all the effected parties shall be directed to mediation provided for by the County of Lake, and if resolution between the effected parties cannot be achieved in a reasonable effort to mediate, the effected parties shall then continue mediation at their own expense (to be equally divided between the effected parties) until a resolution between the parties can be agreed upon, or until the effected parties agree to withdraw from mediation.
(section) 2.(a)
All who exercise the rights described in section 1., shall take reasonable care to prevent environmental destruction, and are responsible to mitigate any possible foreseen negative impacts on the natural environments, and all persons who neglect such practices shall be subject to the authority of any County of Lake ordinance(s) that would provide reasonable remedy, but such remedies are to be used to help individuals come into compliance with this section and not to unreasonably burden individuals who exercise the rights described in section 1.
(section) 2.(b)
The County of Lake Environmental Health department shall administer over individual circumstances that may arise due to non compliance with section 2., section 2.(a), and section 2.(c), but all such administrative authority and 'compliance checks' shall be restricted to circumstances where a verifiable neighbor complaint has been officially registered with the county, and such authority shall not be blanketly imposed on those who exercise the rights as described in section 1., or 1.(a).
(section) 2(c)
If an individual's income qualifies for the low income standards of the county, then the county shall assist in an individuals effort to comply with section 2.(a) by mitigating the costs of any such remedies, but shall not do so in cases where the environmental damage is occurring from an individuals use of non organic gardening chemicals including but not limited to pesticides, herbicides, fungicides and fertilizers, and the County of Lake retains the authority to limit the use of such chemicals if such a remedy is applicable to the circumstance(s).
(section) 3.
All County, State and Federal criminal laws that exist in conflict with individuals exercising the human rights as described in section 1., (and not withstanding an individual in violation of using illegal gardening chemicals including but not limited to certain pesticides, herbicides, fungicides and fertilizers), are to be set aside unless it can be determined that the individual circumstance is occurring within the context of 'commerce' related activities as defined herein,
--For the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency (or other such legally recognized tender) for such goods or services.
(section) 3.(a)
If any provision of this Initiative or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of the Initiative which can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this Initiative are severable. The People of the County of Lake hereby declare that we would have adopted this Initiative irrespective of the invalidity of any particular portion thereof.

 

[editec]

The big threat in this is NOT about marijuane...its a threat to MONSANTO which is attempting to gain a monopoly of SEED and by extention the food supply.

Evil corporation in my opinion, kiddies... one of many I note.

 

[Katzndogz]

Heroin producing poppies have a beautiful flower.

 

[DNAprotection]

Heroin producing poppies have a beautiful flower.

agreed!

 

[DNAprotection]

The big threat in this is NOT about marijuane...its a threat to MONSANTO which is attempting to gain a monopoly of SEED and by extention the food supply.

Evil corporation in my opinion, kiddies... one of many I note.

no argument there about monsanto et al...they are planning to do much with cannabis and my guess is that somehow they hope to swing fed leg that requires states to use fda approved genetically engineered (patented) strains etc because the corpsgov will deem them to be 'safe' while maintaining that 'wild' varieties are inconsistent and dangerous etc, its a perfect scenario for the next phase in the genetic engineering take over of the plant kingdom...

ps...monsanto would do anything to keep your from realizing and resecuring your human rights in this area of growing plants...