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I case you ain't noticed, Kalam, there is no "line". Nobody has to agree with anybody else...and mostly, we don't. But the folks who move here must master the language, get used to western wear, follow the law, etc.
It's been nine years since 9/11. I would have thought we'd be less reactive by now.
Reactive?
So I'm guessing if you talk to a Jew about the Holocaust you won't expect him to be annoyed or mad since it happened 65 years ago?
You think you might be being a bit dramatic, TC?
I case you ain't noticed, Kalam, there is no "line". Nobody has to agree with anybody else...and mostly, we don't. But the folks who move here must master the language, get used to western wear, follow the law, etc.
I'm not aware of any politician at the national level who doesn't support Israel. Are you?
...Yeah, I'd say it is.Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel?
Not if you're planning on running for political office, no. Otherwise, I fail to see what one political issue has to do with choosing to live in the United States.If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
Verbally supporting them isn't, and supporting the Palestinian cause in general certainly isn't. On a different note, I wonder why it's considered "free speech" when corporations use money to determine the outcome of elections, but not when someone wants to send money to support a blacklisted cause overseas. Either donations are a protected form of free speech or they aren't. Anyway...Because aiding and abetting America's enemies is illegal here?
That wasn't really what I had in mind. But it's important to remember who does spy on the United States.Assuming we're talking about such things as funding, spying, etc.
I case you ain't noticed, Kalam, there is no "line". Nobody has to agree with anybody else...and mostly, we don't. But the folks who move here must master the language, get used to western wear, follow the law, etc.
I'm not aware of any politician at the national level who doesn't support Israel. Are you?
Verbally supporting them isn't, and supporting the Palestinian cause in general certainly isn't. On a different note, I wonder why it's considered "free speech" when corporations use money to determine the outcome of elections, but not when someone wants to send money to support a blacklisted cause overseas. Either donations are a protected form of free speech or they aren't. Anyway...Because aiding and abetting America's enemies is illegal here?
When did Hamas attack the United States? What about Islamic Jihad? I guess Israel is the 51st state after all...
That wasn't really what I had in mind. But it's important to remember who does spy on the United States.Assuming we're talking about such things as funding, spying, etc.
Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ben-ami Kadish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lawrence Franklin espionage scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
etc.
Of course, senior members of Congress and other political heavyweights like Rumsfeld and Cheney have campaigned for Pollard's release. Apparently, espionage ceases to be a crime when it's perpetrated on Israel's behalf...
Verbally supporting them isn't, and supporting the Palestinian cause in general certainly isn't. On a different note, I wonder why it's considered "free speech" when corporations use money to determine the outcome of elections, but not when someone wants to send money to support a blacklisted cause overseas. Either donations are a protected form of free speech or they aren't. Anyway...Because aiding and abetting America's enemies is illegal here?
When did Hamas attack the United States? What about Islamic Jihad? I guess Israel is the 51st state after all...
That wasn't really what I had in mind. But it's important to remember who does spy on the United States.Assuming we're talking about such things as funding, spying, etc.
Jonathan Pollard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ben-ami Kadish - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Lawrence Franklin espionage scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
etc.
Of course, senior members of Congress and other political heavyweights like Rumsfeld and Cheney have campaigned for Pollard's release. Apparently, espionage ceases to be a crime when it's perpetrated on Israel's behalf...
I case you ain't noticed, Kalam, there is no "line". Nobody has to agree with anybody else...and mostly, we don't. But the folks who move here must master the language, get used to western wear, follow the law, etc.
I'm not aware of any politician at the national level who doesn't support Israel. Are you?
That depends on circumstance Kalam.
Originally posted by Madeline
Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel? If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
José;2769827 said:Originally posted by Madeline
Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel? If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
You are a slave, Madeline. Like everyone else in America you were born into bondage. Into a prison created by the media that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
This is your last chance, Madeline. After this, there is no turning back.
You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and continue to believe the virtual world created by the American press in which Israel is portrayed as "a beacon of democracy in the Middle East".
You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the racist rabbit-hole of Zionism goes.
José;2769827 said:Originally posted by Madeline
Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel? If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
You are a slave, Madeline. Like everyone else in America you were born into bondage. Into a prison created by the media that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
This is your last chance, Madeline. After this, there is no turning back.
You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and continue to believe the virtual world created by the American press in which Israel is portrayed as "a beacon of democracy in the Middle East".
You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the racist rabbit-hole of Zionism goes.
Why?Does anyone know how many Muslims are in Manhattan?
Does lower Manhattan have a large muslim population that is in need of a place of worship? Where do most muslims live in NYC?
...Yeah, I'd say it is.Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel?
Some Americas may have a "very deep" love for Israel, but Israel's love for America is only as deep as America's pockets. What's truly deep is the extent to which they exercise influence over US politics. Supporting Israel is not part of being an American.
Not if you're planning on running for political office, no. Otherwise, I fail to see what one political issue has to do with choosing to live in the United States.If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
...Yeah, I'd say it is.Not off-hand. But if you move here, is it unreasonable to expect that you'll accept/adapt to the very deep love America has for Israel?
Some Americas may have a "very deep" love for Israel, but Israel's love for America is only as deep as America's pockets. What's truly deep is the extent to which they exercise influence over US politics. Supporting Israel is not part of being an American.
Not if you're planning on running for political office, no. Otherwise, I fail to see what one political issue has to do with choosing to live in the United States.If as an Arab you feel duty-bound to try and shove Israel into the sea, America might not be the best place to move to, agree?
Gotta love dem "moderate" Muslims. Never ceasing to be bigots when it comes to Jews having a homeland.
I don't think anyone is "racially superior" Kalam, but I love Israel.