mosque: new perspective

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    I love this article.

    Bob Cesca: Ground Zero Mosque Opponents Have a Lot of Work to Do

    "I have yet to see Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin contribute their considerable wealth and celebrity to the cause of preserving the Wilderness and Chancellorsville battlefields in Virginia where Washington, D.C.'s suburban sprawl is rapidly consuming the land where thousands of Americans were killed during the American Civil War. When will these self-proclaimed patriots stand against the latest eyesore -- a Walmart Super Store that's likely to be built on the Wilderness battlefield?

    Newt Gingrich, for his part, has written several books about the Civil War, one of which fantasizes about a Confederate victory at Gettysburg. Actually, I once stood several feet away from Gingrich as he held a book signing at a Gettysburg gift shop located a block or two from a McDonald's on Steinwehr Avenue -- a McDonald's that sits on the actual battlefield, specifically the location of the infamous Pickett's Charge on the third day of battle. (The gift shop is also technically on the battlefield.)

    The McDonald's is next to a Friendly's restaurant and across from a hotel with a swimming pool where tourists can honor the fallen while wearing arm floaties and smacking each other with foam noodles. There's a restaurant called General Pickett's Buffet on the battlefield. There used to be a Stuckey's Restaurant literally in the Peach Orchard. There's a 7-11 convenience store where U.S. cavalry commander General John Buford, arguably the hero of Gettysburg, was headquartered on the first day.

    Sarah? Beck?

    On the site of some of the most bloody fighting, East Cemetery Hill, there's a towering Holiday Inn, a Rita's Italian Ice, a cigar store, a Hall of Presidents wax museum, another gift shop and another convenience store. Oh and there's a hilarious outhouse attraction complete with an animatronic townie relieving himself and yelling at tourists to stop "letting all the flies in." Hilarious. West of the town, on the site of one of the Civil War's largest field hospitals, known at the time as Camp Letterman, there's a Walmart and a trailer park. South of town, behind Power's Hill where my great-great grandfather's 155th Pennsylvania volunteer regiment bivouacked, you can walk the hallowed ground while playing a round of miniature golf at Mulligan McDuffer's Putt-Putt.

    Sure, a soulless free market conservative might shrug off these monuments to corporate consumerism as being the wheels of commerce and capitalism rolling on. Even if that means rolling over the ground where 23,040 United States soldiers were killed or wounded (the Confederates suffered around 20-25,000 casualties at Gettysburg). For the federal Army of the Potomac, that was a 27 percent casualty rate. Unimaginable by today's standards.I have yet to see Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin contribute their considerable wealth and celebrity to the cause of preserving the Wilderness and Chancellorsville battlefields in Virginia where Washington, D.C.'s suburban sprawl is rapidly consuming the land where thousands of Americans were killed during the American Civil War. When will these self-proclaimed patriots stand against the latest eyesore -- a Walmart Super Store that's likely to be built on the Wilderness battlefield?"
     
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    Walmart didn't blow up the North. McDonalds didn't either.
     
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    No, but in Gettysburg there is a statue of Robert E Lee who was responsible for a lot more US deaths than Muslims.:eusa_whistle:
     
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    To be honest I think there should be a statue of Robert E Lee in Gettysburg. But if your going to say two blocks from ground zero is hollowed ground then being from Ohio with relatives who fought in the Civil War why can't I protest Robert E Lee being portrayed as a hero in Gettysburg where thousands of northerners died defending the constitution?
     
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    The Mosque of Mohammed Ali (not the fighter) in Cairo, Egypt was built by a ruler of that country who massacred 299 French men on the spot where it sits. He tried to massacre 300, but one lived to tell the tale. He built the mosque on the exact spot where he massacred them to atone for it because he became concerned about how the massacre would set with Allah. Here is a pic of the mosque as it looks today. It is built of white alabaster, but is brown from the Cairo pollution.

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    I have a theory that this ground zero mosque is intended to be the same type of atonement. People have disagreed with me, but think about it. When the people of the world see the Mosque of Mohammed Ali, unless someone tells them the story they know nothing of the massacre. All they see is the beautiful mosque. And it IS beautiful inside and out, some parts are even layered with gold. That would be a type of atonement in that the deed was virtually erased from history and the minds of men and women.

    Who knows if this mosque and cultural center will bring atonement from Allah. Who cares. In the span of years after the people who died in 9-11 are forgotten, and they will be eventually, the mosque will stand there as a type historical atonement. All people will see will be the mosque unless someone tells the story.

    I believe there is a reason they want it there. I think the reason could possibly be as a distraction down through the years if not for actual atonement in some after life.
     
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    Who's stopping you?
     
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    if the imam wants to build the mosque in 2150, maybe he'll get a little more support.
     

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