Manchin Is Standing Against His Entire Party, Sinema Is Enduring Harassment To Stop the Dems...And McConnell Folds, Giving Schumer/Dems HUGE Win

Without the debt ceiling being raised
It was raised dummy.

And it will HAVE TO continue getting raised dummy because actual fix IS NOT America defaulting, the actuall fix is passing bills that reduce spending and raise revenues.
 
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It was raised dummy.
And those 2 issues were / are still tied together, moron. What was needed for the Democrats to even have a chance to pass their $5.5 trillion dollars deficit-adding rip-off of the American people has been accomplished....Again, you're not very bright.....
 
And those 2 issues were / are still tied together, moron.
Can you be for ONE and NOT the other?

The correct answer is yes, which is why your badly conflated premise is false.

Joe Manchin is FOR raising the debt limit no matter what happens with the spending bill and you have mis-represented his position.

When McConnel took the minimal step to allow majority Democrats, including Manchin, to finally vote and pass debt limit increase he was not somehow acting more for the debt limit increase than Manchin.

I don't expect you to have the mental ability to ever admit that to anyone, least of all your dumb self, but thats a fact.
 
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Can you be for ONE and NOT the other?

The correct answer is yes, which is why your badly conflated premise is false.

Joe Manchin is FOR raising the debt limit no matter what happens with the spending bill and you have mis-represented his position.

When McConnel took the minimal step to allow majority Democrats, including Manchin, to finally vote and pass debt limit increase he was not somehow acting more for the debt limit increase than Manchin.

I don't expect you to have the mental ability to ever admit that to anyone, least of all your dumb self, but thats a fact.

If the debt ceiling is not raised can a $5.5 trillion bill be passed?

No.

One is tied to the other.

You still don't get that point...because you aren't the sharpest crayon in the box.
 
If the debt ceiling is not raised can a $5.5 trillion bill be passed?

No.

One is tied to the other.
Dumbass, Democrats can't pass anything without Manchin's vote.

There is absolutely ZERO reason for him to play chicken with defaulting the country and causing damaging chaos to get his way on the spending bill. It will be whatever he agrees it will be or it will not be at all.

If you had half a fucking brain you would get that
 
Dumbass, Democrats can't pass anything without Manchin's vote.

There is absolutely ZERO reason for him to play chicken with defaulting the country and causing damaging chaos to get his way on the spending bill. It will be whatever he agrees it will be or it will not be at all.

If you had half a fucking brain you would get that
Wow, you are slow as fuck, aren't you?! I thought you were playing stupid - you weren't. You ARE stupid.
 
So maybe you should be looking at both parties, huh?
Both parties ARE responsible. At what point, exactly, would you draw a line to stop this insanity? We're 28+ trillion in debt, adding over one trillion per year in red ink to the budget and we're at the beginning of an inflationary cycle brought on by the reaction to Covid where the government is flooding the economy with liquidity that is driving demand for products that aren't available in sufficient amounts. THAT leads to higher inflation so the answer is to throw MORE money at the problem?
 
First of all, pass the fucking BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT
Second, eliminate ALL Unconstitutional social welfare spending programs
Third, return the dollar to the Gold Standard
Last, force the fucking Federal Government to live within its means! What's so frigging hard about that?
You could probably write a short book called "How to quickly crash the shit out of economy and send poverty into stratosphere"
 
Raising the debt ceiling when Democrats are in full charge is like giving an Alcoholic alcohol.
Well as long as the beer is very cold and there is enough of it so they don't have to drive to get more, I really don't see the harm. Nobody really likes warm beer. And some cheese and pretzles would be nice too.

All joking aside, we have to pay the bills or watch the entire USA turn into Illinois. Thats not pretty, even most third world countries have debt ratings better than Illinois.
 
Krysten Sinema has endured personal attacks from fellow Democrats and criminal harassment from intrusive libtards / snowflakes in an effort to stop her party from adding another $5.5 trillion to the already fiscally criminal $28+ TRILLION deficit...

Joe Manchin has been a ROCK, standing up against his entire party, putting up with personal attacks and pressure to block his party from adding $5.5 TRILLION in new debt-adding, Democrat self-serving pork...


They both, along with the vast majority of Conservatives, have to be shaking their heads this morning, shocked at the overwhelming weakness of R-Mitch McConnell who undermined the Republicans' solidarity in refusing to lift the debt ceiling, convincing enough Republicans to vote with the Democrats, to allow these Democrats to get another step closer to passing that bill.

McConnell was naïve enough, stupid enough, to believe Senate Majority Leader D-Chuck Schumer would be grateful for McConnell's betrayal which gave Schumer a HUGE 'Win'. HE WAS WRONG.

Schumer bragged how his fellow Democrats had remained strong and unified (which, of course, is a lie, considering Sinema and Manchin had refused to join fellow Democrats), taking a direct - and deserved - shot at the Republicans who, once again, caved to the Democrats. Again, the GOP's weakness and betrayal of GOP solidarity came from Mitch McConnell. Schumer savaged the GOP's attempt to stand in the Democrats' way. Schumer offered McConnell no gratitude, no mercy.

As Schumer spoke, Manchin's frustration, over sacrificing and enduring so much only to have Mitch McConnell - the opposing party Senate 'leader', a Republican - fold so quickly, so easily, flashed for everyone to see as Manchin sat directly behind Schumer as he spoke:


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JUST CAN'T WATCH: Manchin explains his viral reaction to
Schumer’s diatribe against Republicans after debt ceiling deal


Manchin, who is perhaps the second most popular person in Washington, D.C. these days, was seated directly behind Schumer and could be seen shaking his head during the speech. He looks like a baseball manager sitting in a dugout after his team gives up the lead. Manchin appeared to be exasperated as Schumer continued talking. At one point, he could be seen putting his head into his hands and eventually getting up from his chair while his New York colleague continued.

Manchin’s office did not immediately respond to an after-hours email from Fox News about the Senator’s reaction.

Another video appeared to show Manchin walking out of the Capitol, saying that he hopes that both parties "de-weaponize." He said both sides were frustrated, "but that was not the way to take it out."





You can't blame Manchin for his frustration coming out as Schumer engaged in partisan political theater to attack Republicans while bragging about the Victory McConnell gift-wrapped and gave him, over McConnell's weakness, and his own party's criminal fiscal irresponsibility.
I can see you failed to read your own link. Not raising the debt ceiling would have helped us in what way?

Raising it averted a recession caused by defaulting on our debts. McConnell had no choice.
 
If McConnell didn’t raise the debt limit the focus would have shifted from the feckless Biden Administration to the Senate Minority Leader allowing a default.
 
McConnell, McCarthy, Pelosi and Schumer are all the same establishment person. All they care about is enriching themselves and staying in office. McConnell and McCarthy are whining pussies who will never fight for their constituents or their country. Neither deserves a legislative seat let alone a leadership position. Put Marjorie Taylor Green in there and she'll show them all how it's done.
Man, you are on some really good drugs! Where did you get them?
 
First of all, pass the fucking BALANCED BUDGET AMENDMENT
Second, eliminate ALL Unconstitutional social welfare spending programs
Third, return the dollar to the Gold Standard
Last, force the fucking Federal Government to live within its means! What's so frigging hard about that?
Want to know for certain when the person knows nothing about economics? They talk about returning to the Gold Standard. There is not enough gold in the world to back our spending. To even suggest there may be, is pure idiocy!
 

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