Maduro Orders Seizure of Closed Venezuela Factories, Jailing of Owners

There seems to be some weird disease afflicting USMB conservatives. Many of them are obsessed with news about Venezuela. Especially bad news.

Someone must have told them that posting horrible stories about how an ineffective despot in Venezuela is fucking up causes liberals to become embarrassed and want to start supporting nutbag conservative economic policies.

It doesn't.

There are lots of kinds of economic systems and lots of kinds of government systems. Venezuela doesn't represent anyone's ideal when it comes to either.

Ya dumb shit.

Yes, we know. The Socialist ideal is a triangle with four corners. Unfortunately, every time they try to draw one it ends up having three corners. Venezuela is the latest three sided triangle.

Whoa.............deep! You are one complex dude.
 
"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
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"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Georgy, You see, communism is ONLY for the stupid masses.

After the fall of the USSR it was disclosed that the commissars lived in opulent villas and had access to PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.


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The shortages in Venezuela are manufactured by the elites as an excuse to overthrow the government.

I read someplace about a year ago that they found a warehouse full of toilet paper but the stores had none.

Just the other day one of the elites emailed me. He told me that the best way to start a revolution is to deny the people toilet paper. Not food, not water, but toilet paper because everyone know how cranky people get when they can't even wipe their ass.
 
"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Georgy, You see, communism is ONLY for the stupid masses.

After the fall of the USSR it was disclosed that the commissars lived in opulent villas and had access to PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.


.
Thanks...the only place on the planet socialism will work as it should is in the US:
Google

"Socialism in the United States began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired on Charles Fourier. Labor activists—usually British, German, or Jewish immigrants—in 1876 founded the Socialist Labor Party."
 
"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Georgy, You see, communism is ONLY for the stupid masses.

After the fall of the USSR it was disclosed that the commissars lived in opulent villas and had access to PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.


.
Thanks...the only place on the planet socialism will work as it should is in the US:
Google

"Socialism in the United States began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired on Charles Fourier. Labor activists—usually British, German, or Jewish immigrants—in 1876 founded the Socialist Labor Party."

It never worked here either.
 
There seems to be some weird disease afflicting USMB conservatives. Many of them are obsessed with news about Venezuela. Especially bad news.

Someone must have told them that posting horrible stories about how an ineffective despot in Venezuela is fucking up causes liberals to become embarrassed and want to start supporting nutbag conservative economic policies.

It doesn't.

There are lots of kinds of economic systems and lots of kinds of government systems. Venezuela doesn't represent anyone's ideal when it comes to either.

Ya dumb shit.

Yes, we know. The Socialist ideal is a triangle with four corners. Unfortunately, every time they try to draw one it ends up having three corners. Venezuela is the latest three sided triangle.

Whoa.............deep! You are one complex dude.

I'm willing to bet that went right over your head.
 
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"The assault against the Bolivarian revolution has intensified in the recent days and weeks. Editorials and front pages in US and Spanish newspapers are screaming about hunger in Venezuela and demanding the removal of the 'dictatorial regime'.

"Ongoing scarcity problems have led to instances of looting. The right-wing opposition is attempting to trigger a presidential recall referendum, but is also threatening violent action and appealing to foreign powers, including in some case for military intervention.

"What is really happening in Venezuela and how can these threats be faced?"

What's happening in Venezuela as more to do with using black marker dollars to make the economy scream.

Venezuela – A Last Warning

"For ten years, the revolution was able to grant widespread reforms and massively improve the living standards of the masses.

"This was accompanied by a process of political radicalisation in which the late president Chávez and the revolutionary masses pushed each other forward.

"Socialism was declared as the aim of the Bolivarian revolution, there were wide ranging experiences of workers’ control, factories were occupied and expropriated, companies were re-nationalised.

"Millions became active at all levels in an attempt to take their future into their own hands.

"The motor force of the revolution and its main source of strength which allowed it to thwart all the attempts of the oligarchy and imperialism were the revolutionary masses, active, politically aware and engaged at all levels."

What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Georgy, You see, communism is ONLY for the stupid masses.

After the fall of the USSR it was disclosed that the commissars lived in opulent villas and had access to PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.


.
Thanks...the only place on the planet socialism will work as it should is in the US:
Google

"Socialism in the United States began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired on Charles Fourier. Labor activists—usually British, German, or Jewish immigrants—in 1876 founded the Socialist Labor Party."

It never worked here either.
It's never been tried at the right time.
Socialism was ascendant in parts of the US we would never expect today, like Oklahoma, when FDR saved capitalism from itself.

There's no FDR in sight. When the next inevitable capitalist crash happens, I believe this country will change in ways we can't even imagine today.
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What's your point? How has socialism benefited the people of Venezuela?
Some more than others, it seems.

"Being the ex-President's daughter pays off: Hugo Chavez's ambassador daughter is Venezuela's richest woman
  • Diario las Americas claims that Maria Gabriela Chavez, 35, has $4.2billion in assets held in American and Andorran banks
  • Hugo Chavez famously declared 'being rich is bad' and during his lifetime railed against the wealthy for being lazy and gluttonous
  • Efforts to determine Chavez's wealth have been made before, without much luck"
Read more: The richest woman in Venezuela is Hugo Chavez's daughter
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Georgy, You see, communism is ONLY for the stupid masses.

After the fall of the USSR it was disclosed that the commissars lived in opulent villas and had access to PRIVATE HEALTH CARE.


.
Thanks...the only place on the planet socialism will work as it should is in the US:
Google

"Socialism in the United States began with utopian communities in the early 19th century such as the Shakers, the activist visionary Josiah Warren and intentional communities inspired on Charles Fourier. Labor activists—usually British, German, or Jewish immigrants—in 1876 founded the Socialist Labor Party."

It never worked here either.
It's never been tried at the right time.
Socialism was ascendant in parts of the US we would never expect today, like Oklahoma, when FDR saved capitalism from itself.

There's no FDR in sight. When the next inevitable capitalist crash happens, I believe this country will change in ways we can't even imagine today.
3WAJ5EWBBX7dkjEKrN3kbQ

Socialism only works at the right time? Really? Capitalism works every time it's tried, whenever it's tried. What you're really saying is that Socialism has never worked. There is no right time for socialism because it requires suspending the laws of economics.

FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism.
 
Socialism only works at the right time? Really? Capitalism works every time it's tried, whenever it's tried. What you're really saying is that Socialism has never worked. There is no right time for socialism because it requires suspending the laws of economics.
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Introduction to Karl Marx, Module on Stages of Development

"(C)apitalism: because of the eventual growth of commerce (and of human populations), feudal society began to accumulate capital, which, along with the increased debt incurred by the aristocracy, eventually led to the English Revolution of 1640 and the French Revolution of 1789, both of which opened the way for the establishment of a society structured around commodities and profit (i.e. capitalism). In such a society, the proletariat is fooled into believing that s/he is free because s/he is paid for his/her labor. In fact, the transformation of labor into an abstract quantity that can be bought and sold on the market leads to the exploitation of the proletariat, benefitting a small percentage of the population in control of capital.

"The working class thus experiences alienation since the members of this class feel they are not in control of the forces driving them into a given job.

"The reason for this situation is that someone else owns the means of production, which are treated like private property."
Introduction to Karl Marx, Module on Stages of Development
Capitalism is a particular stage of history like feudalism and slavery, and like its predecessors, it too will collapse.

The sooner the better!
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
So was FDR.
Trump, both Clintons and all the Bushes are also as corrupt as the day is long.
I blame the profit motive.
You?
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
So was FDR.
Trump, both Clintons and all the Bushes are also as corrupt as the day is long.
I blame the profit motive.
You?

There's no evidence of Trump being corrupt. The others are all lifelong politicians, but you blame the profit motive?
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
So was FDR.
Trump, both Clintons and all the Bushes are also as corrupt as the day is long.
I blame the profit motive.
You?

There's no evidence of Trump being corrupt. The others are all lifelong politicians, but you blame the profit motive?
The profit motive buys and sells politicians like newspapers. Why would you think politicians are confused about who supplies their golden parachutes.
If you are saying Trump is not corrupt..
.

"For a long time, conservatives like me have made a point about Hillary supporters: They tend to stipulate that she has behaved in corrupt, mendacious ways. They really won’t argue back with you. They just say, 'I want her anyway. She’s for abortion,' ..."

"I have noticed something similar with Trump supporters.

"They won’t really argue with you about corruption and other flaws.

"They don’t want to hear about Trump University, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, the eminent-domain stuff, the stiffing of creditors, the bankruptcies, the hiring practices at the club in Palm Beach, the donations to the worst of the Dem politicians (including Hillary), etc. :eek:

"They just want what they want.

"Recruiters for Trump University were instructed to avoid facts, ideas, solutions, and the like. They were to sell 'feelings.'”

Read more at: Trump, Hillary, and Their Supporters
 
FDR didn't save capitalism. He came very close to killing it. Depressions are what happens when liberals try to cure recessions. Then they blame the disastrous results of their tinkering on capitalism
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
So was FDR.
Trump, both Clintons and all the Bushes are also as corrupt as the day is long.
I blame the profit motive.
You?

There's no evidence of Trump being corrupt. The others are all lifelong politicians, but you blame the profit motive?
The profit motive buys and sells politicians like newspapers. Why would you think politicians are confused about who supplies their golden parachutes.
If you are saying Trump is not corrupt..
.

"For a long time, conservatives like me have made a point about Hillary supporters: They tend to stipulate that she has behaved in corrupt, mendacious ways. They really won’t argue back with you. They just say, 'I want her anyway. She’s for abortion,' ..."

"I have noticed something similar with Trump supporters.

"They won’t really argue with you about corruption and other flaws.

"They don’t want to hear about Trump University, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, the eminent-domain stuff, the stiffing of creditors, the bankruptcies, the hiring practices at the club in Palm Beach, the donations to the worst of the Dem politicians (including Hillary), etc. :eek:

"They just want what they want.

"Recruiters for Trump University were instructed to avoid facts, ideas, solutions, and the like. They were to sell 'feelings.'”

Read more at: Trump, Hillary, and Their Supporters

When you talk about "corruption" you're always talking about politicians who sell out their constituents for personal gain. So how is capitalism to blame for a quality that is inherent in government?
 
FDR saved your greedy ass from
Huey Long - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Huey Pierce Long Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician who served as the 40th Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a member of the United States Senate from 1932 until his assassination in 1935. A Democrat, he was an outspoken populist who denounced the rich and the banks, and called for 'Share our Wealth.'".

Huey Long was as corrupt as the day is long.
So was FDR.
Trump, both Clintons and all the Bushes are also as corrupt as the day is long.
I blame the profit motive.
You?

There's no evidence of Trump being corrupt. The others are all lifelong politicians, but you blame the profit motive?
The profit motive buys and sells politicians like newspapers. Why would you think politicians are confused about who supplies their golden parachutes.
If you are saying Trump is not corrupt..
.

"For a long time, conservatives like me have made a point about Hillary supporters: They tend to stipulate that she has behaved in corrupt, mendacious ways. They really won’t argue back with you. They just say, 'I want her anyway. She’s for abortion,' ..."

"I have noticed something similar with Trump supporters.

"They won’t really argue with you about corruption and other flaws.

"They don’t want to hear about Trump University, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, the eminent-domain stuff, the stiffing of creditors, the bankruptcies, the hiring practices at the club in Palm Beach, the donations to the worst of the Dem politicians (including Hillary), etc. :eek:

"They just want what they want.

"Recruiters for Trump University were instructed to avoid facts, ideas, solutions, and the like. They were to sell 'feelings.'”

Read more at: Trump, Hillary, and Their Supporters

When you talk about "corruption" you're always talking about politicians who sell out their constituents for personal gain. So how is capitalism to blame for a quality that is inherent in government?
Corruption is endemic to capitalism. When government bureaucrats abuse offices for personal gain, it is usually financial gain and capitalists have the money. Capitalists also have the most incentive to bribe government for favorable tax and trade policies that advance their own interests often at the expense of the majority of national stakeholders.

Political Corruption and Capitalism

"What chiefly drives this sort of political corruption today is capitalism's structure.

"For many capitalist enterprises, competitive and other pressures exist to increase profits, growth rates, and/or market share.

"Their boards and top managers seek to find cheaper produced inputs and cheaper labor power, to extract more output from their workers, to sell their outputs at the highest possible prices and to find more profitable technologies.

"The structure provides them with every incentive of financial gain and/or career security and advancement to behave in those ways.

"Thus, boards and top managers seek the maximum obtainable assistance of government officials in all these areas and also try to pay the least possible portion of their net revenues as taxes. Boards of directors tap their corporations' profits to corrupt mostly the top echelons of the government bureaucracy, those needed to make advantageous official decisions."
 

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