Madison: A WARNING TO FUTURE AMERICANS

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    In his later years as he was the last surviving character from the Founding of America, Madison wrote in one of his many letters about the idiocy and nonsense that took hold in many Southern states -- namely that Jefferson supported secession.

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    i cant wait to see this!

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    Live in the present for the future not in the past.
    Who cares about Madison at this point.
    His wife now makes junk food pastries.
     
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    "A Warning to Future Americans"? The Constitution was a warning to future Americans that too much federal power can be dangerous. The FF were geniuses.
     
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    President Madison Fled Washington DC and allowed the British to burn it down, something Lincoln would not do.

    From Federalist #10, authored by Madison about how the Republic is better than a Democracy:

    Kinda makes you think that if the FF were here today they might not look too kindly on our representatives!
     
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    Madison "allowed"? the British to burn Washington? Interesting analysis. Under Madison The US defeated the Brits. On the other hand you could consider that Lincoln's lack of leadership in the United States government led to Civil War.
     
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    Madison's conduct of the war was not very good. Yes we won but it was more of the British wanted peace with us because of the wars with France. Remember it was Madison who declared war on them. Madison also tried to take Canada and was repelled. It did get Jackson elected as President though and gave us our national anthem. But as a wartime President Madison was not very effective.
     
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    First of all Madison wasn't really the "last surviving character from the Founding of America". Madison had nothing to do with the founding of America. He didn't attend any continental congress meetings until 1780. They had already voted to become an independent nation, and were already several years into the Revolutionary war. Madison had great influence over the constitution-but not over the actual founding of America.

    Second of all people confuse Madison's great contributions to this country, with his average presidency (at best). Madison wasn't that great of a president. Same can be said for Adams really (who was one of the most important, and arguably the most influential of the FFs).

    In all honesty if the Brits were busy fighting wars already-we would have lost both the revolutionary and the war of 1812.

    And nobody knows what the FFs would think of today. It's been hundreds of years-and the world has changed. It's a much different world. Plus you can find quotes from any one of the founding fathers to support virtually any argument.
     
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    We didn't actually beat the Brits, except in a couple of battles. That war was more of a draw, because after Napolean's defeat at Waterloo many of the problems that brought the war on were moot, like impressment of sailors into the British Navy and the blockade of European ports held by Napolean. The most famous battle occurred after the peace treaty was signed, so it hardly be counted as a reason the Brits lost the war.
     
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    BTW, "Lincoln's lack of leadership"?!?! Most of the states that seceded, did so before he was even inaugurated!!!
     

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