Low Income Voters (>$50,000/year) Put Joe in the White House

[Mikeoxenormous]

When the top 1% income earners pay 65% of the tax burden, there is no free shit for the rich

The rich may pay 65% of the federal income tax burden, but they don't pay 65% of all sales and property taxes, and they pay much less than they did when capitalism was creating the Great American Middle Class. If the total federal income tax burden is currently half of what it costs government to subsidize rich parasites, their contribution is even more niggardly.

10 Ways the Rich Avoid the Taxman

That is a lot of money. But a pittance to what tis needed for living over our heads. Real cuts are needed in all levels of Federal government as well as state, local and city governments.

Loopholes? The same loopholes i use? I used to work for the government in the prestigious ATF&E (that is alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives, for the low IQ progs) building and my job was to save the government money from those contractors who wanted to rob the building blind. Now at the end of the year, i ended up usually saving any where from 4 to 7 million dollars. So you know what the agency did? Went out with our tax dollars and bought new 75 inch high def tvs, and brand new furniture to replace the one year old stuff they bought the previous year. Dont give me shit about people not paying taxes, but the waste these agencies have with no regard of where the money comes from. Cut the federal budget by 50% and it still would be such waste.

When you hear someone talking about tax loopholes, why is it that the progs in government created those loopholes in the first place? So they can not pay high taxes, but then tell you , you have to. That makes you a stupid fuck....

 

[georgephillip]

Those low-income voters are apparently too uninformed, or just don't care, that they did better under Trump than they have ever done. Wages rose more under Trump than they had risen since the 1990s. Also, the Trump tax cuts included a huge increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit. Low-income voters also benefitted from the low gas prices, which resulted substantially from Trump's pro-energy energy policies. And many, many low-income folks were unemployed under Obama were able to get jobs under Trump--I guess it never dawned on them that there was a connection between Trump's pro-growth economic policies and their newly found employment.

If Biden gets his anti-business economic agenda through Congress and sucks over $1 trillion from the economy, I can't wait to hear low-income voters start complaining when the economy slows down as a result. I will remind them, "Hey, folks, YOU voted for this."

"Most Americans -- 53 percent -- say low-income families have not benefited at all from Trump's policies.

"The poll, conducted April 26 to April 30, questioned 803 adults in the United States. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

"Twelve percent of those surveyed say poor families have benefited a lot, and about a quarter (28 percent) say they have benefited a little."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...efited-at-all-from-president-trumps-policies/

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yeah, offer them the free shit. They'll catch on

Rich folks have been running away with federal contracts for decades. Now, who is "them?"

Cons think only the poor get lots of free shit. They have no comprehension of the enormous free shit the rich get.

Nobody gives me shit!!
The gov only takes! They took 500K from the Wife and I this year.

WTF?

And judging by the pictures you don't even own a mansion.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yeah, offer them the free shit. They'll catch on

Rich folks have been running away with federal contracts for decades. Now, who is "them?"

Cons think only the poor get lots of free shit. They have no comprehension of the enormous free shit the rich get.

Nobody gives me shit!!
The gov only takes! They took 500K from the Wife and I this year.

WTF?

And judging by the pictures you don't even own a mansion.

I know right!!!
They raped us of a huge chunk of our retirement money when we sold a large chunk of stocks and the Wife was making double Her usual income through Her severance package when the bank was sold.
We could have retired already if we hadn't got raped by the gov.

 

[gipper]

Yeah, offer them the free shit. They'll catch on

Rich folks have been running away with federal contracts for decades. Now, who is "them?"

Cons think only the poor get lots of free shit. They have no comprehension of the enormous free shit the rich get.

Nobody gives me shit!!
The gov only takes! They took 500K from the Wife and I this year.

You clearly don’t understand. It appears to be a common illness among cons.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yeah, offer them the free shit. They'll catch on

Rich folks have been running away with federal contracts for decades. Now, who is "them?"

Cons think only the poor get lots of free shit. They have no comprehension of the enormous free shit the rich get.

Nobody gives me shit!!
The gov only takes! They took 500K from the Wife and I this year.

You clearly don’t understand. It appears to be a common illness among cons.

I understand it completely.

 

[daveman]

When the top 1% income earners pay 65% of the tax burden, there is no free shit for the rich

The rich may pay 65% of the federal income tax burden, but they don't pay 65% of all sales and property taxes, and they pay much less than they did when capitalism was creating the Great American Middle Class. If the total federal income tax burden is currently half of what it costs government to subsidize rich parasites, their contribution is even more niggardly.

10 Ways the Rich Avoid the Taxman

You never have rationally explained why what you haven't earned should be yours.

Note: GIBS ME DAT is not a rational explanation.

Goodness, I can't imagine why Comrade George is ignoring this post.

Still ignoring it.

It's almost like he has no rational explanation for his greed.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Those low-income voters are apparently too uninformed, or just don't care, that they did better under Trump than they have ever done. Wages rose more under Trump than they had risen since the 1990s. Also, the Trump tax cuts included a huge increase in the Earned Income Tax Credit. Low-income voters also benefitted from the low gas prices, which resulted substantially from Trump's pro-energy energy policies. And many, many low-income folks were unemployed under Obama were able to get jobs under Trump--I guess it never dawned on them that there was a connection between Trump's pro-growth economic policies and their newly found employment.

If Biden gets his anti-business economic agenda through Congress and sucks over $1 trillion from the economy, I can't wait to hear low-income voters start complaining when the economy slows down as a result. I will remind them, "Hey, folks, YOU voted for this."

"Most Americans -- 53 percent -- say low-income families have not benefited at all from Trump's policies.

"The poll, conducted April 26 to April 30, questioned 803 adults in the United States. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

"Twelve percent of those surveyed say poor families have benefited a lot, and about a quarter (28 percent) say they have benefited a little."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...efited-at-all-from-president-trumps-policies/

Low income families need to get the fuck off welfare and start getting skills or education that makes them move out of the liberal victimhood, instead of whining and bitching how fucked their lives are. Progs dont understand this was the United States of America, where even someone from the Ghetto can with hard work and skills, make something of themselves..
Watch Morgan Freeman if you dare....

 

[georgephillip]

Dunno. Where are the statistics?

You consider > $50,.000 / year = low income?

The link I based this thread on considers voters earning less than $50,000 a year as "low income."

"NOVEMBER 13, 2020
Low Income Voters Turned Out for Biden, Now They Need Relief"

"According to early polls, voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago.

"This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000 — from 45 percent in 2016 to just over half in 2020.

"At least 6 million more people in low-income households voted in 2020 compared to 2016."

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

Dunno. Where are the statistics?

You consider > $50,.000 / year = low income?

The link I based this thread on considers voters earning less than $50,000 a year as "low income."

"NOVEMBER 13, 2020
Low Income Voters Turned Out for Biden, Now They Need Relief"

"According to early polls, voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago.

"This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000 — from 45 percent in 2016 to just over half in 2020.

"At least 6 million more people in low-income households voted in 2020 compared to 2016."

Huh?

You said greater than 50,000 $ / year.

Can you put me in touch with your dealer?

 

[CowboyTed]

The election turned because college-educated white voters - particularly college-educated women - swung hard for Biden.

https://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/fz-election-results-and-comments-twig.860722/post-25925403

Calls for "socialism" hurt Democrats in swing districts, cost them the Senate and almost cost them the House.

The issue I have is Biden and Democrats should have won by more... They are on the popular side on nearly all the issues.

Their main problem is that they let the right define them. Right wing spend all day shouting Socialist and Communist, Democrats should simply answer that the policies they are going for in Healthcare is the same as Germany and there economy is better than US.

Some one should explain to AOC that the best way for universal healthcare is for America to get public option and see if they like that step and do they want to make a further step... Shut up on calling people out... I am not saying she is wrong and I encourage shooting for the stars but don't let the perfect get in the way of the the good.

Democrats have to be very forceful in clearly articulating there agenda and show it working in other countries... The GOP just want to keep shit the same way it is, this is an easier sell..

 

[georgephillip]

So true, but somehow many Americans don’t understand this. Of course many are duped by major institutions cheerleading. Such as the MSM, numerous think tanks, the billionaires, most government agencies including the CIA, War Department, etc, and some in academia and Hollywood.

The pro-war propaganda has returned with a vengeance on NFL broadcasts, and I've stopped counting the number of action "heroes" on streaming platforms who've honed their martial skills in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Rich people in both parties profit from wars they seldom participate in; neither major party has any plan to alter that ca$h cow.

Where's Pat Tillman when you really need him?

"Well, it’s over.

"Not the election.

"The capitalist democracy.

"However biased it was towards the interests of the rich and however hostile it was to the poor and minorities, the capitalist democracy at least offered the possibility of incremental and piecemeal reform.

"Now it is a corpse.

"The iconography and rhetoric remain the same.

"But it is an elaborate and empty reality show funded by the ruling oligarchs — $1.51 billion for the Biden campaign and $1.57 billion for the Trump campaign — to make us think there are choices."

Chris Hedges: American Requiem

 

[georgephillip]

Duh. The less your income, the more likely you are to vote for more “free” stuff. This is hardly ground breaking. Successful folks, you know, the truly smart ones, will vote for Republicans.

How much "free stuff" do rich Republicans (and Democrats) receive by bribing government for favorable tax, trade, and monopoly legislation?

Only simple folks believe the "free" market distributes income by an invisible hand's objective appraisal of each worker's and investor's marginal utility instead of the politically constructed laws and institutions that structure economic activity in a given society.

 

[georgephillip]

We will know very soon what Joe has in mind. If he fills his administration with warmongers, which seems likely, we’ll know for certain. Then if he gets no criticism in the msm or in Congress for picking warmongers, we’ll know who supports warmongering

Joe's never met a war he didn't support (from a distance), and I seriously doubt he'll change stripes at this stage of his career:

Meet the contenders for Biden’s Cabinet

"Just about everybody you talk to says the Defense secretary post in a Biden administration is Michele Flournoy’s job to lose.

"The undersecretary of defense for policy in Obama’s first term, Flournoy is a respected policy wonk with significant management experience in co-founding the centrist Center for a New American Security.

"She’s been as active as ever in recent months, including co-authoring a blueprint this summer on how the Pentagon needs to accelerate efforts to develop new technologies to outpace China."

 

[jasonnfree]

1941, Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis made a prescient observation when he wrote: “We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of a few. We cannot have both.” – Ralph Nader

 

[DBA]

Duh. The less your income, the more likely you are to vote for more “free” stuff. This is hardly ground breaking. Successful folks, you know, the truly smart ones, will vote for Republicans.

How much "free stuff" do rich Republicans (and Democrats) receive by bribing government for favorable tax, trade, and monopoly legislation?

Only simple folks believe the "free" market distributes income by an invisible hand's objective appraisal of each worker's and investor's marginal utility instead of the politically constructed laws and institutions that structure economic activity in a given society.

You really need to stop reading these wacko sites. Occupy Democrats?...LOL

The numbers in your MEME are complete nonsense.

In 1 Graphic, Here’s What Uncle Sam Is Doing With Your Tax Money

 

[gipper]

We will know very soon what Joe has in mind. If he fills his administration with warmongers, which seems likely, we’ll know for certain. Then if he gets no criticism in the msm or in Congress for picking warmongers, we’ll know who supports warmongering

Joe's never met a war he didn't support (from a distance), and I seriously doubt he'll change stripes at this stage of his career:

Meet the contenders for Biden’s Cabinet

"Just about everybody you talk to says the Defense secretary post in a Biden administration is Michele Flournoy’s job to lose.

"The undersecretary of defense for policy in Obama’s first term, Flournoy is a respected policy wonk with significant management experience in co-founding the centrist Center for a New American Security.

"She’s been as active as ever in recent months, including co-authoring a blueprint this summer on how the Pentagon needs to accelerate efforts to develop new technologies to outpace China."

Yep. He’s going to fill his administration with war profiteers and big bankers.

As bad as Trump is, Biden is very likely to be much worse.

 

[Claudette]

What percentage of voters earning less than $50,000 a year would you classify as political "moderates"? How many of those voters would benefit from Medicare for All or partial amortization of all student debt?

"NOVEMBER 13, 2020
Low Income Voters Turned Out for Biden, Now They Need Relief
BY SARAH ANDERSON – MARGOT RATHKE"

"According to early polls, voters with household incomes of less than $50,000 in 2019 broke for Biden by 55 to 43 percent — a 12 point margin, compared to 8 four years ago.

"This helped overcome Trump’s gains among households with incomes above $100,000 — from 45 percent in 2016 to just over half in 2020.

"At least 6 million more people in low-income households voted in 2020 compared to 2016."

Once again, Democrats lost the White vote.

What happened in 1964 to cause that?

I'm a low income voter and I didn't vote for Biden nor would I ever vote for Biden.

Way to much fishy stuff in this election and I doubt Biden will get the win when its all investigated. Loads of signed affidavits out there and some of them were signed by Dem watchers.

Loads of problems with the Dem owned and run Dominion machines that gave 6,000 Trump votes to Biden. They caught that one. Wonder how many they didn't catch.

One fishy election.

 

[22lcidw]

When the top 1% income earners pay 65% of the tax burden, there is no free shit for the rich

The rich may pay 65% of the federal income tax burden, but they don't pay 65% of all sales and property taxes, and they pay much less than they did when capitalism was creating the Great American Middle Class. If the total federal income tax burden is currently half of what it costs government to subsidize rich parasites, their contribution is even more niggardly.

10 Ways the Rich Avoid the Taxman

That is a lot of money. But a pittance to what tis needed for living over our heads. Real cuts are needed in all levels of Federal government as well as state, local and city governments.

Loopholes? The same loopholes i use? I used to work for the government in the prestigious ATF&E (that is alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives, for the low IQ progs) building and my job was to save the government money from those contractors who wanted to rob the building blind. Now at the end of the year, i ended up usually saving any where from 4 to 7 million dollars. So you know what the agency did? Went out with our tax dollars and bought new 75 inch high def tvs, and brand new furniture to replace the one year old stuff they bought the previous year. Dont give me shit about people not paying taxes, but the waste these agencies have with no regard of where the money comes from. Cut the federal budget by 50% and it still would be such waste.

When you hear someone talking about tax loopholes, why is it that the progs in government created those loopholes in the first place? So they can not pay high taxes, but then tell you , you have to. That makes you a stupid fuck....

I agree. The amount of waste is incredible. Back in the 1980's there was a report that the then Federal Budget of about 1.2 trillion dollars had about 300 billion in waste. Today it has to be more. A lot more. All government sin our nation are like you said. They spend the money or they may not see it again is just part of the problem.

 

[georgephillip]

None, asshole. Keeping what you've earned is not "recieving free shit."

Your "thinking" exactly parallels that of a slave.
Capitalism creates a few filthy rich parasites by exploiting the labor of millions of productive workers.
For example, Jeff Bezos has a personal net worth of around $183.6 billion.
How much of that wealth today comes from Parasite Jeff compared to the productive labor of 1,000,000 Amazon employees?

Too much WINNING?