As usual you read me wrong. I indicated Trump wants to eliminate the immigration system to everyone except those who are content with their own countries.Probably even makes the trains run on time too, right? And build autobahns.Nope, I didn't get concerned 'chills' re Obama. I may think that the chest-clutching devotion I saw on some was a bit overboard, but most of it was youngsters who feel everything a little deeper than their more experienced elders. However, the key is the message they are hearing. I also get that same feeling I saw on our kids when Obama get elected of 'chill thrill' when I hear "Amazing Grace" or the " Battle Hymn of the Republic" by a good voice or group of voices.I'm curious...did the adoration on the faces of the crowd when Barack Obama spoke give you the same chills? Or is it just adoration on the faces of people who aren't liberals that make you "chilly"? (eye roll)
Oldstyle, you agree with the message Trump is tossing like paper towels to he devotees, but if you could stretch enough to step into my shoes you would hear the same old 'aryan' message our fathers heard of everything to restrictions on some citizens (voter suppression), the cultish adoration of a person, the slow building of a conforming exec branch force (Newt Gingrich Suggests Kavanaugh Could Block Democratic Bid To Get Trump's Tax Returns).
You will point out that there has always been voter suppression of some kind or another. Yes, but did you notice that the American Congress addressed that and that the SCOTUS decided that certain States who used this ploy to keep a status quo were UnConstitutional. Now Scotus says we don't need those laws anymore so the rolled back the laws ensuring every citizen has that right...and look what we now got..an in-your-face attempt in GA and ND to prevent votes.
I am not especially bright, and I am a child of my environment knowing my views are what I see and might be different if chance had placed me somewhere else with different background. But I have tried to be honest in what I see in Trump, and he scares the crap out of me. Not because of what he is, the world is full of guys like him. But because of guys like you who hear his lies, see him change 180 daily, and just don't care. He doesn't just say things that don't happen for cause...he lies thru his teeth, and none of his devotees care, as he attempts to re-inforce his hold on DOJ/FBI/CIA/NSA and now SCOTUS.
You think the Trump Presidency is "scary"? Really? Has he used the IRS against his political opponents? Barack Obama did! Has he used FISA court warrants to spy on his political opponents? Obama did! Has he used Executive Orders to do an end run around Congress? Obama routinely did! So why is the Trump Presidency "scary" to you? Because he's doing good things with the economy? Because unemployment is at historically low levels? Because he's reworked trade agreements that were bad for Americans and replaced them with ones that are better for us? Because he wants to make our border secure and actually reform an immigration system that anyone with even a dollop of common sense admits is broken?
Unemployment at low levels does not mean better off, which is the goal....to improve the quality of life thru employment. But believe me when I tell you that if you are either working, getting ready for work, or sleeping...and no time for anything else, that's existence but not living. What trade agreements have been reworked as opposed to simply being re-named? Reform the immigration system? Ha! How about eliminate it?
Lets get to the Tea party talking points you cite...The IRS against political opponents, like who? And you overlook the XO master we now enrich to slam Obama? FISA Court warrants to spy on political opponents? Yeah, sure! Except all this is little more than unproven Fox talking points and screeches from people and orgs mad about being investigated even though they were NOT charged or prosecuted.
Unemployment at low levels doesn't mean better off? Did you just claim that? Let me explain how this works, Bullwinkle! When unemployment is high then people are forced to take whatever jobs they can get and put up with all kinds of demands from employers to keep those jobs. When unemployment is at historically low levels then employers have to compete to GET and KEEP good employees so wages go up and benefits are included!
Those would be trade agreements with the EU and trade agreements with both Canada and Mexico!
You want to eliminate the immigration system? Really? That's the dumbest thing that will be posted on this board today, Bullwinkle! Congrats...you're #1!
Where pray tell did Trump ever make a statement even remotely like that?