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Can you show how the parent's care for their child was usurped in any way shape or form by a child being offered additional food items?
A note coming home saying in essence "you suck, your lunch you packed sucked, and we might charge you $1.25 next time you suck".
Would that be classified as "usurping"?
No, it wouldn't. If a teacher sent a note home saying your child didn't do their HOMEwork and they are going to get a bad grade, would that be usurping?
Do you believe that a sandwich and juice are sufficient sustenance to get a child through a full school day, yes or no? Do you think a child can concentrate when only given that much food to get them through their day? Do you think that has an effect on the class?
If the family cannot afford to be charged for the additional food their child is given, nothing is stopping them from providing the appropriate amount of food or applying for assistance for their child's school lunch.
If that child is on a specific diet, arrangements can be made through the school ahead of time.
And I'm fairly certain that it was mentioned in the REAL story that came out after the drug addled gasbag Limbaugh got his "dittoheads" riled up, that the school says that the family SHOULD NOT have been charged and apologized for her having been charged.
So until it was publicized the charge remained.
You had a point in there somewhere. Point it out.
Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
Why am I not surprised you defend a LIE as truth, then expect everyone to be outraged? The bigger question is WHY aren't you outraged that you were lied to?
What lie? Most of us had the proper understanding.
But defend big government. For you it is all about collecting isnt it?
The lie that is being perpetrated by this thread. There was no "big government" intervention in this Pre-K program. The "nanny state" didn't come in and smack her healthy, home-made lunch out of her hands and force chicken nuggets on her.
That's "what lie".
Yes, there is no greater proof of OBAMA'S EVIL than a non-story about how one kid got chicken nuggets at school one day.
This thread is the perfect example of the religion of liberalism: it is okay to usurp a parent's care for a child, but it is absolutely wrong to tell a woman that she shouldn't murder her own child. Sad on parade.
Can you show how the parent's care for their child was usurped in any way shape or form by a child being offered additional food items?
It makes me wonder who that person was and why the identity has been kept secret. Beyond that though, why are we paying some self important Fed to invade local school districts that already employ nutritionists?
It's not like North Carolina is Somolia. This is a state with a real live infrastructure that provides real live professionals who do real live work in real live schools.
Is anybody at all concerned that the Feds are overreaching. Again?
School Nutrition Association of North Carolina
So until it was publicized the charge remained.
You had a point in there somewhere. Point it out.
Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
So now the little girl is the fuck up? To cover their own asses at the school they are going to blame the kid?
Oh that's sad. That's really disgusting. Where's the barfing smilie?
And I'm fairly certain that it was mentioned in the REAL story that came out after the drug addled gasbag Limbaugh got his "dittoheads" riled up, that the school says that the family SHOULD NOT have been charged and apologized for her having been charged.
So until it was publicized the charge remained.
You had a point in there somewhere. Point it out.
Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
And I'm fairly certain that it was mentioned in the REAL story that came out after the drug addled gasbag Limbaugh got his "dittoheads" riled up, that the school says that the family SHOULD NOT have been charged and apologized for her having been charged.
So until it was publicized the charge remained.
You had a point in there somewhere. Point it out.
Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
This thread is the perfect example of the religion of liberalism: it is okay to usurp a parent's care for a child, but it is absolutely wrong to tell a woman that she shouldn't murder her own child. Sad on parade.
Can you show how the parent's care for their child was usurped in any way shape or form by a child being offered additional food items?
She was told her lunch wasn't good enough, she had her lunch replaced (not taken away) with a school lunch. That is not "supplementing" that is "usurping".
They didn't blame the kid they blamed the TEACHER. The school's statement was that the TEACHER should have gone and got the milk, not sent a four year old into a cafeteria line.So until it was publicized the charge remained.
You had a point in there somewhere. Point it out.
Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
So now the little girl is the fuck up? To cover their own asses at the school they are going to blame the kid?
Oh that's sad. That's really disgusting. Where's the barfing smilie?
What lie? Most of us had the proper understanding.
But defend big government. For you it is all about collecting isnt it?
The lie that is being perpetrated by this thread. There was no "big government" intervention in this Pre-K program. The "nanny state" didn't come in and smack her healthy, home-made lunch out of her hands and force chicken nuggets on her.
That's "what lie".
Where did a "teacher" get the idea that they had the "authority" to judge a child's lunch?
From another update:
The agent examined the lunches for the six students in the class and believed one did not meet nutritional requirements spelled out by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Barnes said.
According to the USDA, schools are required to provide lunches that include one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.
DHHS is investigating.
link for this?
It happened again.
When Jazlyn said she didn’t eat what her mother had made her, Zambrano went to her teacher and demanded to know what happened. She said the teacher told her an official had come through that day to inspect students’ lunches and that those who were lacking certain food groups were sent to the cafeteria. After she received her cafeteria food, the teacher told Zambrano, Jazlyn was told to put her homemade lunch back in her lunchbox and set it on the floor.
Zambrano said the teacher told her it was not the first time student lunches have been inspected, and that officials come “every so often.”
The policing of children’s food at West Hoke has been portrayed as an isolated incident, but a curious memo Jazlyn brought home to her mother seems to point to something more.
The memo Jazlyn brought from the school outlines the necessary nutritional requirements students’ homemade lunches must contain: two servings of fruit or vegetables, one serving of dairy, one serving of grain and one serving of meat or meat substitute. Included with the memo was a separate sheet, this one a bill for the cafeteria food Jazlyn was served.
The memo, dated Jan. 27 with the subject line “RE: Healthy Lunches,” was signed by school principal Jackie Samuels and said, while “we welcome students to bring lunches from home … it must be a nutritious, balanced meal with the above requirements. Students, who do not bring a healthy lunch, will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria.”
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Bob Barnes, assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction, told the McClatchy News Service Thursday that the first preschooler to make headlines just misunderstood her teacher when she thought she was told to ditch her homemade lunch for one from the cafeteria: the cafeteria items were only meant to supplement the food groups missing from the homemade lunch.
“We are not the lunch bag police,” Barnes told McClatchy. “We would never put a child in any type of embarrassing situation. But we are responsible to see that every child gets a nutritious meal.”
North Carolina Mother Diane Zambrano Says Her Daughter‘s Homemade School Lunch Wasn’t Healthy Enough | West Hoke Elementary | TheBlaze.com
The lie that is being perpetrated by this thread. There was no "big government" intervention in this Pre-K program. The "nanny state" didn't come in and smack her healthy, home-made lunch out of her hands and force chicken nuggets on her.
That's "what lie".
Where did a "teacher" get the idea that they had the "authority" to judge a child's lunch?
For the most part, common sense I'd say. You see a kid with nothing more than a salami sandwich and a juice, would you offer the kid more food?
Not sure if this pertains to TD's post but it happened again. I posted this earlier in the thread (page 6).
From another update:
The agent examined the lunches for the six students in the class and believed one did not meet nutritional requirements spelled out by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, Barnes said.
According to the USDA, schools are required to provide lunches that include one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.
DHHS is investigating.
link for this?
It happened again.
When Jazlyn said she didnt eat what her mother had made her, Zambrano went to her teacher and demanded to know what happened. She said the teacher told her an official had come through that day to inspect students lunches and that those who were lacking certain food groups were sent to the cafeteria. After she received her cafeteria food, the teacher told Zambrano, Jazlyn was told to put her homemade lunch back in her lunchbox and set it on the floor.
Zambrano said the teacher told her it was not the first time student lunches have been inspected, and that officials come every so often.
The policing of childrens food at West Hoke has been portrayed as an isolated incident, but a curious memo Jazlyn brought home to her mother seems to point to something more.
The memo Jazlyn brought from the school outlines the necessary nutritional requirements students homemade lunches must contain: two servings of fruit or vegetables, one serving of dairy, one serving of grain and one serving of meat or meat substitute. Included with the memo was a separate sheet, this one a bill for the cafeteria food Jazlyn was served.
The memo, dated Jan. 27 with the subject line RE: Healthy Lunches, was signed by school principal Jackie Samuels and said, while we welcome students to bring lunches from home it must be a nutritious, balanced meal with the above requirements. Students, who do not bring a healthy lunch, will be offered the missing portions which may result in a fee from the cafeteria.
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Bob Barnes, assistant superintendent of curriculum and instruction, told the McClatchy News Service Thursday that the first preschooler to make headlines just misunderstood her teacher when she thought she was told to ditch her homemade lunch for one from the cafeteria: the cafeteria items were only meant to supplement the food groups missing from the homemade lunch.
We are not the lunch bag police, Barnes told McClatchy. We would never put a child in any type of embarrassing situation. But we are responsible to see that every child gets a nutritious meal.
North Carolina Mother Diane Zambrano Says Her Daughters Homemade School Lunch Wasnt Healthy Enough | West Hoke Elementary | TheBlaze.com
nice. thx.
Nobody is having their home-made lunch taken away from them. Their lunches are being supplemented from the cafeteria if it isn't nutritious enough. A child coming to school with only a salami sandwich and a juice needs their lunch supplemented.
Can you show how the parent's care for their child was usurped in any way shape or form by a child being offered additional food items?
A note coming home saying in essence "you suck, your lunch you packed sucked, and we might charge you $1.25 next time you suck".
Would that be classified as "usurping"?
No, it wouldn't. If a teacher sent a note home saying your child didn't do their HOMEwork and they are going to get a bad grade, would that be usurping?
Don't be ridiculous . . . teaching/educating IS the school's job; deciding what is and isn't an appropriate lunch from home is NOT the school's job. Get it?
Do you believe that a sandwich and juice are sufficient sustenance to get a child through a full school day, yes or no? Do you think a child can concentrate when only given that much food to get them through their day? Do you think that has an effect on the class?
Again, don't be ridiculous. The kid doesn't just eat lunch and nothing else . . especially a 4 year old. They get breakfast and snacks (twice a day for the snack if it's an all day program).
If the family cannot afford to be charged for the additional food their child is given, nothing is stopping them from providing the appropriate amount of food or applying for assistance for their child's school lunch.
^ The bolded? Again, it is NOT THE SCHOOL'S/GOVERNMENTS JOB TO DECIDE WHAT AND HOW MUCH the kid is suppose to eat. They can SUGGEST but to supplement the brown bagged lunch is over the line as is any type of government mandate that each child MUST eat all four food groups at any meal eaten at school, even if the meal comes from home. It is over reach, it is nanny state, it is governmentism. Period.
If that child is on a specific diet, arrangements can be made through the school ahead of time.
Where did a "teacher" get the idea that they had the "authority" to judge a child's lunch?
For the most part, common sense I'd say. You see a kid with nothing more than a salami sandwich and a juice, would you offer the kid more food?
don't start going sideways, it was a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice, wtf? its lunch, she needed milk aside from the juice? seriously?
The lie that is being perpetrated by this thread. There was no "big government" intervention in this Pre-K program. The "nanny state" didn't come in and smack her healthy, home-made lunch out of her hands and force chicken nuggets on her.
That's "what lie".
Where did a "teacher" get the idea that they had the "authority" to judge a child's lunch?
For the most part, common sense I'd say. You see a kid with nothing more than a salami sandwich and a juice, would you offer the kid more food?
They didn't blame the kid they blamed the TEACHER. The school's statement was that the TEACHER should have gone and got the milk, not sent a four year old into a cafeteria line.Right wing story: Girl gets her nutritious lunch taken away and forced to eat chicken nuggets.
Real story: Girl was told to get milk for her lunch, she took the whole lunch and still had her old lunch to eat as well.
Teacher's Mistake Leads to Right Wing FREAK OUT
So now the little girl is the fuck up? To cover their own asses at the school they are going to blame the kid?
Oh that's sad. That's really disgusting. Where's the barfing smilie?
If you didn't start drinking so early, you wouldn't need to purge as often.
Where did a "teacher" get the idea that they had the "authority" to judge a child's lunch?
For the most part, common sense I'd say. You see a kid with nothing more than a salami sandwich and a juice, would you offer the kid more food?
don't start going sideways, it was a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice, wtf? its lunch, she needed milk aside from the juice? seriously?
For the most part, common sense I'd say. You see a kid with nothing more than a salami sandwich and a juice, would you offer the kid more food?
don't start going sideways, it was a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice, wtf? its lunch, she needed milk aside from the juice? seriously?
Here's the thing . . . if the kid has milk (or yogurt or cheese, etc.) at breakfast and dinner she doesn't even need it at lunch because the other two meals have it covered. It simply is not the school's/governments job to monitor what a kid eats. Period. Guidelines for school meals that meet nutritional requirements is fine . . . but that's it.
What's next? Government knocking on doors inspecting the food being served in homes?
