Libtardification of Star Wars; JJ Abrams Brings A Predictable World View

[JimBowie1958]

J. J. Abrams had absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars Episode III.

As for the rest of your predictions, they sound ludicrous, but we'll just have to wait and see.

These successful sci fi producers are at such a small number that it is an incestuous creative environment. If there was a lot of healthy competition for these gigs, then how does the same dud who relaunched Star Trek also get the nod for the third Star Wars trilogy? Because you can probably count these fuckers on one hand and they all share the same world view - totallibtard.

What I read, and cant find the article now, said that Abrams was involved creatively with Episode 3, but I dont know. I find it hard to imagine that he never (at a minimum) discussed it with Lucas informally.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The problem isn't with the "worldview" of the movies, it's with your worldview - one where everything in the world is categorized by "left" and "right", and therefore you can only enjoy entertainment that falls on your side of the line. It's bizarre.

Wow, a ton of presumption, here, Doc. Maybe you need to take a prognostics course or two over again.

1. I generally enjoy movies despite their libtard elements. I would love to see a movie that isnt shoving politics at me, but the Marxists are organized and they berate creative types till they include the Marxist world view.

2. I dont categorize everything as left or right. One example is 'Walking Dead' a very well written series that has no political agenda to it that is overt. Sure you can read politics into any work of art, and if you couldnt, half the humanities department proffs around the country would not have gotten tenure. But they can, so they have, and we have to live with their bullshit seeping into all forms of art.

3. They only thing bizarre here is that you can read a half-joking post like this and come away convinced that I am on an anti-left Crusade or something. No, I am always on an anti-left Crusade, it isnt just this movie.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Neither did George Soros.

You are an idiot. No, really, you are drooling face stupid.

I simply mentioned that JJ Abrams is a big donor to leftwing causes and the Democrats like Soros. I never said Soros had anything to do with Episode 3.

Shit, how can you be that stupid?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

J. J. Abrams had absolutely nothing to do with Star Wars Episode III.

As for the rest of your predictions, they sound ludicrous, but we'll just have to wait and see.

These successful sci fi producers are at such a small number that it is an incestuous creative environment. If there was a lot of healthy competition for these gigs, then how does the same dud who relaunched Star Trek also get the nod for the third Star Wars trilogy? Because you can probably count these fuckers on one hand and they all share the same world view - totallibtard.

What I read, and cant find the article now, said that Abrams was involved creatively with Episode 3, but I dont know. I find it hard to imagine that he never (at a minimum) discussed it with Lucas informally.

Abrams didn't have anything at all to do with Star Wars until after Lucas had sold the property to Disney.

As for why the same guy is doing both Star Trek and Star Wars - he likely got Star Wars because of the job he did on Star Trek.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Abrams didn't have anything at all to do with Star Wars until after Lucas had sold the property to Disney.

Officially, no doubt, but can you say that you know that the handful of popular sci fi producers never discuss their projects with each other?

Seriously?

As for why the same guy is doing both Star Trek and Star Wars - he likely got Star Wars because of the job he did on Star Trek.

Yeah and no one else could have done it, I'm sure. It's not like there are dozens of directors/producers in Holly weird and New Yawk that couldnt have done the damned things too. /sarc

 

[theDoctorisIn]

The problem isn't with the "worldview" of the movies, it's with your worldview - one where everything in the world is categorized by "left" and "right", and therefore you can only enjoy entertainment that falls on your side of the line. It's bizarre.

Wow, a ton of presumption, here, Doc. Maybe you need to take a prognostics course or two over again.

1. I generally enjoy movies despite their libtard elements. I would love to see a movie that isnt shoving politics at me, but the Marxists are organized and they berate creative types till they include the Marxist world view.

This is what I'm talking about right here - the fact that you see politics in everything doesn't mean that there's actually any political messages there.

2. I dont categorize everything as left or right. One example is 'Walking Dead' a very well written series that has no political agenda to it that is overt. Sure you can read politics into any work of art, and if you couldnt, half the humanities departments around the country would not have gotten tenure. But they can, so they have, and we have to live with their bullshit seeping into all forms of art.

Why do you feel the need to add to it? In this thread, you're letting your bullshit seep into art.

3. They only thing bizarre here is that you can read a half-joking post like this and come away convinced that I am on an anti-left Crusade or something. No, I am always on an anti-left Crusade, it isnt just this movie.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Abrams didn't have anything at all to do with Star Wars until after Lucas had sold the property to Disney.

Officially, no doubt, but can you say that you know that the handful of popular sci fi producers never discuss their projects with each other?

Seriously?

At the time Star Wars Episode III was being made, JJ Abrams was a hollywood script doctor and TV producer with little "sci fi" experience.

As for why the same guy is doing both Star Trek and Star Wars - he likely got Star Wars because of the job he did on Star Trek.

Yeah and no one else could have done it, I'm sure. It's not like there are dozens of directors/producers in Holly weird and New Yawk that couldnt have done the damned things too. /sarc

This argument is ridiculous. Of course other people "could" have done it, but they didn't get hired for it. The only people who can say why are Disney executives.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is what I'm talking about right here - the fact that you see politics in everything doesn't mean that there's actually any political messages there.

Yeah, I'm sure that its just a coincidence that Anaken Skywalker was sounding like a neocon Pax Americana war hawk as he declared that 'Either you are for us or against us' like George Bush said in a speech he got slammed for.

And there is more, but I really dont want to go into it. I dont much like Bush either and when I end up defending him I feel like I have to take a shower.

Why do you feel the need to add to it? In this thread, you're letting your bullshit seep into art.

How is my bullshit seeping into the art? The movie is done and theya re already working on Episode 8, so I am I affecting anything regarding art?

SMH

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

I'm really not surprised.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This argument is ridiculous. Of course other people "could" have done it, but they didn't get hired for it. The only people who can say why are Disney executives.

I am not arguing, not seriously at any rate.

The sci fi directors/producers are leftwing and a small group. That leads to things you dont want to grok, apparently, so I am just going to leave it at that.

I cant connect the dots for you, dude.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

This argument is ridiculous. Of course other people "could" have done it, but they didn't get hired for it. The only people who can say why are Disney executives.

I am not arguing, not seriously at any rate.

The sci fi directors/producers are leftwing and a small group. That leads to things you dont want to grok, apparently, so I am just going to leave it at that.

I cant connect the dots for you, dude.

You're "connecting dots" that only exist in your fevered imagination. No such "group" exists.

Seriously, you sound like every other conspiracy nut. "Connect the dots", my ass - you're starting with the drawing you want, and then finding dots that fit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You're "connecting dots" that only exist in your fevered imagination. No such "group" exists.

Lol, there are no 'sci fi directors/producers'! Who'd a thunk it?

Seriously, you sound like every other conspiracy nut. "Connect the dots", my ass - you're starting with the drawing you want, and then finding dots that fit.

It is not a conspiracy, dude, and you brought that word into the discussion, not me. These people, that you think dont exist, do what is called 'networking' because there are not that many of them, and unless being a libtard is intrinsically evil (its not, its just stupid) then it cannot be a conspiracy. Conspiracy = evil networking, pretty much.

Oh, and conspiracies do exist, dont you agree? Anonymous, the Sicilian Mafia, the Russian Mafia, foreign spy networks, corporate networking to evade or break the law, etc, these are all examples of conspiracies. The dude and his friends who sell pot a few blocks down from your place is engaging in conspiracy.

Dont blame me simply because I point it out, doofus.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The problem isn't with the "worldview" of the movies, it's with your worldview - one where everything in the world is categorized by "left" and "right", and therefore you can only enjoy entertainment that falls on your side of the line. It's bizarre.

The original trilogy dealt with good and evil. The second one blurred the lines, but still held that good will eventually win.

In the age of Obama, this may be too much of an old view. We don't know all that much about the new movie, but for it to portray the Sith Lords as victims of Jedi bigots would not be a huge surprise. In a world where Socialism is renewed as something acceptable, the idea that the dark side should be presented as the good side is not too far fetched. Vader was forced to blow up Calidan because of the global warming the inhabitants were inflicting on it.

Portraying good as evil, and evil as good is a very Obamunist view point.

Really I just hope the movie doesn't suck.

 

[Godboy]

The star Wars series continued in their book line. Luke, at one point in the series, crossed over to the dark side... for a little while. These books were written long before anyone even knew about Bush W.

But they are not exactly 'canon', in the sense that if a character did something in the novels they did it in the movie time line. Lucas and Paramount decided that it is all part of a MultiUniverse environment, and though the stories did happen in a parallel universe, they did not necessarily happen in the movie timeline.

Get it?

They will do what other franchises have done... they will take certain ideas from the books and discard others. The Walking Dead is a good example of that. It's based off the comic book series, but they changed some things around for the TV series.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

OK, first assertion; JJ Abrams who has directed Star Wars is a libtard;
1. He was involved in the Episode III fiasco that polticized Star Wars, depictiing the Empire as some sort of variation on George W Bush. Star Wars saga ends with jab at Bush's empire - Film - Entertainment
2. He and George Soros give major money to Democrats exclusively in US politics. http://content.usatoday.com/communi.../08/soros-jj-abrams-super-pacs/1#.Vjo4qfmrShc
3. JJ Abrams has had nmajor success in TV and Hollyweird, which requires one to be a libtard.

But how does this impact his story line in Start Trek?
1. Luke Skywalker, being a white male, will go to the dark side and start to sound like a conservative. Expect a lot of 'law and order' rhetoric from Luke as he goes around chopping off heads and dismembering those who dissent and having words put in his mouth by libtard script writers that make him sound like a Young Republican.
2. The new primary characters of episode VII will be a black guy and a woman, maybe multiple women. The trailers have already hinted at this. The old white dudes that were heroes are almost all dead now, so expect the rest to be culled pretty darnned quick, maybe all in episode VII.
3. In the trailer Luke says 'The force is strong in my family. My father has it. I have it. My sister has it. You have that power too." So someone else is stepping in as the role of Lukes father. Now we all know that Vader is dead, but perhaps the Emperor survived? Regardless the Sith Master that is teaching Luke is like now regarded as his father. But who is Luke trying to recruit by telling them they have the power of the Force? A new Apprentice? Perhaps he recruits a new Jedi just before turning to the dark side?
4. Princess Laya is now leading a group of shadow Jedi or will be soon. One can never under estimate the value of having a vagina in wartime, in the libtard world view.
5. Luke's service to the Dark side will be rationalized eventually as some kind of 'All is gray, there is no black or white' morality that libtards espouse to. So despite Luke being dark side, he will do good with his powers to serve humanity, like Castro or Stalin did.

Yes, this trend of using science fiction to discuss real world themes must stop.

Plato's Stepchildren - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
""Plato's Stepchildren" is a third season episode of the original science fiction television series, Star Trek, first broadcast November 22, 1968. It is episode No. 65, production No. 67, written by Meyer Dolinsky, and directed by David Alexander. This episode is notable for depicting an inter-racial kiss between a white man (Kirk) and a black woman (Uhura), which was daring for 1960s US television."

 

[Agit8r]

 

[JimBowie1958]

Yes, this trend of using science fiction to discuss real world themes must stop.

A partisan filter on real world events presented as merely entertainment is not discussing real world themes, it is propagating Marxist agit prop, nothing more.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The original trilogy dealt with good and evil. The second one blurred the lines, but still held that good will eventually win.

In the age of Obama, this may be too much of an old view. We don't know all that much about the new movie, but for it to portray the Sith Lords as victims of Jedi bigots would not be a huge surprise. In a world where Socialism is renewed as something acceptable, the idea that the dark side should be presented as the good side is not too far fetched. Vader was forced to blow up Calidan because of the global warming the inhabitants were inflicting on it.

Portraying good as evil, and evil as good is a very Obamunist view point.

Really I just hope the movie doesn't suck.

Yes, and having Luke go Darkside would be the perfect narrative device to give that gray scale moral narrative.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Saw this this morning on FB.

What is so damned critical to the movie's success that they delayed the release of the novel version for 3 weeks after the movie comes out?

I cant think of a bigger plot device that would be totally spoiled by a novel than Luke going Dark Side.

‘Star Wars 7’ Book Adaptation Delayed to Stop Spoilers

 

[JimBowie1958]

Another video of fans that hink maybe Luke did go Dark Side.....see I am not going goofey over ideology. Abrams is a libtard and had to turn Skywalker into a bad guy and make a black guy and a woman into the new heroes....BECAUSE HE IS A LIBTARD.

Libtards just hate white people, though they cut some slack to white women because they too have been oppressed by wicked evil white men.

So I wonder how well this movie will do, basically labeling 70% of their target audience genetically evil?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Libtardification of Star Wars; JJ Abrams Brings A Predictable World View"

The stupidity of this speaks for itself.