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Why I am a Radical Liberal Progressive : Political Outcast


Think what you want....... I don't believe a Liberal Government or society (within reason) is the answer.
I say we step back and take a good look at better days and make a decision which way we should move the country forward.
The November election will speak volumes about the mind set of the majority and are they really aware of there reason for there voting decision?
 
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Kind of a cute way to explain why many people like myself use Leftist to describe the opposition in that direction.. I'M a Liberal -- in the traditional meaning of the word. And I'd like to reclaim and disinfect that label..

Leftists have an inate need for large intrusive authority as long as THEY are in charge. And their main philosophy is "how to get in charge"..
 
Edited. Simply attributing the opposite of everything you believe to the political opposition is laziness and all too common in people claiming to know the mysteries of the imponderable liberal mind.
 
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Simply attributing the opposite of everything you believe to the political opposition is laziness and all too common in people claiming to know the mysteries of the imponderable liberal mind.

Same is true of "conservatives". I don't know of a conservative. Its like they all just died. Nonetheless, it makes no sense and is actually counterproductive to treat people like they were made with a cookie cutter.

I wonder if people realize what an "editorial" is. In the case of that one, its a whole lotta lies surrounded by more lies. Just read the page its on. He does the very thing he says others do!
 
Classical liberalism is a political ideology that advocates limited government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, individual liberties including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and free markets.[1][2]

Classical liberalism developed in the 19th century in Europe and the United States. Although classical liberalism built on ideas that had already developed by the end of the 18th century, it advocated a specific kind of society, government and public policy as a response to the Industrial Revolution and urbanization.[3] Notable individuals whose ideas have contributed to classical liberalism include John Locke[4], Jean-Baptiste Say, Thomas Malthus and David Ricardo. It drew on the economics of Adam Smith and on a belief in natural law[5], utilitarianism[6], and progress.[7]

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Simply attributing the opposite of everything you believe to the political opposition is laziness and all too common in people claiming to know the mysteries of the imponderable liberal mind.

Same is true of "conservatives". I don't know of a conservative. Its like they all just died. Nonetheless, it makes no sense and is actually counterproductive to treat people like they were made with a cookie cutter.

I wonder if people realize what an "editorial" is. In the case of that one, its a whole lotta lies surrounded by more lies. Just read the page its on. He does the very thing he says others do!

Conservative and liberal were replaced with democrat and republican; parties that serve their own interests in power while sharing much the same ideology. It is where most of the breakdown in debate here comes from. There are those that are partisan hacks and others that are continually arguing against democrat or republican with people that are not actually democrats or republicans.
 
I can only note that these constant debates about WORD MEANINGS are a complete waste of everybody's time.

You want to know what people are all about, ignore the labels (the labels they give themselves or others want to pin on them) and evaluate for yourself WHAT THEY DO.

A person is what they DO, not what they call themsleves or what others call them.
 
Simply attributing the opposite of everything you believe to the political opposition is laziness and all too common in people claiming to know the mysteries of the imponderable liberal mind.

Same is true of "conservatives". I don't know of a conservative. Its like they all just died. Nonetheless, it makes no sense and is actually counterproductive to treat people like they were made with a cookie cutter.

I wonder if people realize what an "editorial" is. In the case of that one, its a whole lotta lies surrounded by more lies. Just read the page its on. He does the very thing he says others do!

Conservative and liberal were replaced with democrat and republican; parties that serve their own interests in power while sharing much the same ideology. It is where most of the breakdown in debate here comes from. There are those that are partisan hacks and others that are continually arguing against democrat or republican with people that are not actually democrats or republicans.

I do agree......... So what the hell do we do?
 
Every individual person is comprised of both liberal and conservative attributes within their own being. I myself accept that I am a Libervative.

Its a better way to be than the definitions of either/ or always being cast about and yeilding nothing but vitrial and division....but its a bit lonely to.
 
Why I am a Radical Liberal Progressive : Political Outcast


Think what you want....... I don't believe a Liberal Government or society (within reason) is the answer.
I say we step back and take a good look at better days and make a decision which way we should move the country forward.
The November election will speak volumes about the mind set of the majority and are they really aware of there reason for there voting decision?

If we could just agree on which direction is "forward", we'd have it made. "Forward" to a liberal is more government, more socialism and redistribution of wealth. "Forward" to a conservative is less government, more capitalism and fair taxing of EVERYBODY with less given away to welfare whores that have learned to vote themselves a living.
 
Why I am a Radical Liberal Progressive : Political Outcast


Think what you want....... I don't believe a Liberal Government or society (within reason) is the answer.
I say we step back and take a good look at better days and make a decision which way we should move the country forward.
The November election will speak volumes about the mind set of the majority and are they really aware of there reason for there voting decision?

This is why modern liberals aren't liberal. See at 1:10
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfdRpyfEmBE]Milton Friedman - YouTube[/ame]
 
"Progressives" share the following traits:

1. Fundamental dissatisfaction with their lives;

2. A personal sense of powerlessness to change this condition; and

3. A lack of belief in a moral universe (i.e., ultimate reward for good behavior).

As a result, they turn to an external structure (government) to:

1. Try to make their lives seem better;

2. Control others whom they envy; and

3. Give their lives a sense of purpose.

Unfortunately, there is no effective treatment for this emotional disorder.
 
Same is true of "conservatives". I don't know of a conservative. Its like they all just died. Nonetheless, it makes no sense and is actually counterproductive to treat people like they were made with a cookie cutter.

I wonder if people realize what an "editorial" is. In the case of that one, its a whole lotta lies surrounded by more lies. Just read the page its on. He does the very thing he says others do!

Conservative and liberal were replaced with democrat and republican; parties that serve their own interests in power while sharing much the same ideology. It is where most of the breakdown in debate here comes from. There are those that are partisan hacks and others that are continually arguing against democrat or republican with people that are not actually democrats or republicans.

I do agree......... So what the hell do we do?

I advocate ending parties in general. I think we would be better off if republican and democrat simply ceased to exist. Sure, you can call yourself one or the other but that practice will fade quickly with the power base propping it up as it is now.
 
Conservative and liberal were replaced with democrat and republican; parties that serve their own interests in power while sharing much the same ideology. It is where most of the breakdown in debate here comes from. There are those that are partisan hacks and others that are continually arguing against democrat or republican with people that are not actually democrats or republicans.

I do agree......... So what the hell do we do?

I advocate ending parties in general. I think we would be better off if republican and democrat simply ceased to exist. Sure, you can call yourself one or the other but that practice will fade quickly with the power base propping it up as it is now.

Good thought, but it ain't gonna happen. Those landsharks we call politicians believe that there is power in numbers and they are right. They have the power when they (and their wealth) stick together despite party affiliation, but giving up the parties is never going to happen. And we can't force them to do so... not and remain a free nation that is.

Immie
 
I do agree......... So what the hell do we do?

I advocate ending parties in general. I think we would be better off if republican and democrat simply ceased to exist. Sure, you can call yourself one or the other but that practice will fade quickly with the power base propping it up as it is now.

Good thought, but it ain't gonna happen. Those landsharks we call politicians believe that there is power in numbers and they are right. They have the power when they (and their wealth) stick together despite party affiliation, but giving up the parties is never going to happen. And we can't force them to do so... not and remain a free nation that is.

Immie

Sure we can. Not just through legislation as that will not happen but through the vote. It is not going to happen because there are too many people that are partisan hacks and see the world as an us vs them proposition. It will take the population actually realizing that the parties are toxic.
 
I advocate ending parties in general. I think we would be better off if republican and democrat simply ceased to exist. Sure, you can call yourself one or the other but that practice will fade quickly with the power base propping it up as it is now.

Good thought, but it ain't gonna happen. Those landsharks we call politicians believe that there is power in numbers and they are right. They have the power when they (and their wealth) stick together despite party affiliation, but giving up the parties is never going to happen. And we can't force them to do so... not and remain a free nation that is.

Immie

Sure we can. Not just through legislation as that will not happen but through the vote. It is not going to happen because there are too many people that are partisan hacks and see the world as an us vs them proposition. It will take the population actually realizing that the parties are toxic.

Isn't that what I just said?

Immie
 
Good thought, but it ain't gonna happen. Those landsharks we call politicians believe that there is power in numbers and they are right. They have the power when they (and their wealth) stick together despite party affiliation, but giving up the parties is never going to happen. And we can't force them to do so... not and remain a free nation that is.

Immie

Sure we can. Not just through legislation as that will not happen but through the vote. It is not going to happen because there are too many people that are partisan hacks and see the world as an us vs them proposition. It will take the population actually realizing that the parties are toxic.

Isn't that what I just said?

Immie

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You said:
but it ain't gonna happen
and:
And we can't force them to do so... not and remain a free nation that is.

The first is possible but you’re making a final statement on the matter. I don’t think change is impossible, just difficult. The second is flat out wrong. We can force them and be a free country. We just have to force them through our right to speak and our right to vote.
 

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