Libertarians and Virginia

the point is that the libertarian candidate elected the liberal democrat. Thats what the GOP and those on the right need to learn from this election

No... A bad Republican candidate lost, you lack accountability like Obama so you blame someone else. Remember when Mitt was going to win, and Libertarians were this less than 1% meaningless voter base to appeal to... then Mitt lost despite Obama losing 4 million voters and Libertarians get blamed for electing Obama?

Many republicans voters have slowly switched parties by ideology... Spend money, grow Government, over regulate and then blame anyone and everyone else when you fail, as Republicans (voters) have.
 
About what?

That democrats planted a democrat as a libertarian and some turds bought it? You know, the democrats stole that tactic from republicans, right?


Screw off, libertarian party moron. There are more libertarians in the GoP than your joke party, so YOUR Values LOST BECUSE OF YOU

OK, fella. Well, tell that to the republicans like Corky whining about libertarians being democrat plants.

:lol:

And, I'm not a libertarian party member. And, the tactic of planting faux libertarians was originally a GOP manuever. Demcrats stole the idea and pulled the wool over republicans on it.

Has little to do with libertarians at all. Jst the corrupt snakes of the two major party.

this particular "libertarian" WAS a dimocrap plant.

ant that is just the beginning.
they will try to do that again.

So should GOP, BTW - plant distractors for leftards
 
I'm 100% ok with Republicans candidates losing. I honestly don't even care how seeing as they helped destroy the nation and the constitution, put us in massive debt and pretend Obama did it on his own. Fuck Republican candidates, their Progressive lite at best these days.

Problem is Reps had a super majority and they ran the country like Progressives... We all know in the end progressive policies will fail and the people will reject them, and that's what happened to Bush and his congress and that is what is happening now to Obama and his congress.

So the voters apparently want to try more of it in hopes to get rid of it. :lol:

There is really no choice. Bush and Reps grew Government, every single one of them ran off being fiscally conservative. Far to many of them have lied for far to many years.

This day in age there is an issue of internet, youtube and the ability to post instant filmed quotes and voting records. Reps pretended to be conservatives for years and it was easy to lie to the masses (and still is really.) But today, as you can see with Obama, you can lie and then get hammered by direct video taped quotes proving you lied again... "If you like your current insurance plan you can keep it, period." "Obamacare will not add a dime to the deficit." Obama is a dated dinosaur, he's destroying himself, just like Reps have.
 

what do you find amusing about the truth?

There is nothing truthful about sayng that those who voted for Sarvis, voted for McAwful.

that is EXACTLY what they did. They voted McAwful

as the ones who voted for a green candidate in 2000 actually voted for Bush.

That is the same scheme.
Dimocraps learned the tactic.

and placed a bait.

ignorant people took a bait.

even more ignorant GOP did not vet the "libertarian" in time.

and that is the main problem here - the establishment GOP not doing their job
 
Let me refine that statement. Actually the Tea Party has taken over all the major issues that libertarians used to rant about and all that's left in the libertarian movement are pot heads. People who claim to be libertarians today go along with the radical left and hate and fear the Tea Party while they sit around in a fog and do nothing to change the system.
 
In an election with low turn-out- the results, IMO, bode better for republicans. The money thrown around in VA by democrats was huge. No way McAuliffe would have won without all the negative pounding in ads.Based on democrats "road-map" of negative ads conservatives need to follow suit, and keep hammering how dysfunctional WA has become due to the lack of good leadership from the president.

Did you not see any of Cucinelli's ads?

At what amounted to 2 Cucinelli ads to 10 McAuliffe? What's your point? My point is that republicans need to be willing to spend just as much and go just as low- With all that spending and all of those negative ads, McAuliffe barely pulled that rabbit out of the hat.

McAuliffe and his allies used the Democrat's financial advantage in the race to flood the airwaves with negative ads saying Cuccinelli, the state attorney general, would restrict abortion and take away women's access to health care.
 
what do you find amusing about the truth?

There is nothing truthful about sayng that those who voted for Sarvis, voted for McAwful.

that is EXACTLY what they did. They voted McAwful

as the ones who voted for a green candidate in 2000 actually voted for Bush.

That is the same scheme.
Dimocraps learned the tactic.

and placed a bait.

ignorant people took a bait.

even more ignorant GOP did not vet the "libertarian" in time.

and that is the main problem here - the establishment GOP not doing their job

That is one stupid post. So your claim is you have 2 options when you vote, even if you don't like either candidate.... Republican or Democrat.

Here is something to consider, they are all plants. Reps are not fiscally conservative and Dems don't really care about you and your children.
 
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The lesson is this:

"Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends"

as are most of your posts.

:lol: Pity won't help you, Redfish.

Obamacare is a winning issue if not mired in TeaP silliness.

So worked it as hard as possible, reach out to women and Hispanics and minorities, divorce ourselves from social con positions, and don't threaten shut down and debt faulting.

The GOP can win if it follows the above. If the GOP cannot control the TeaP, then no matter how bad Obama and the ACA, Americans will vote against the Republican Party.
 
In an election with low turn-out- the results, IMO, bode better for republicans. The money thrown around in VA by democrats was huge. No way McAuliffe would have won without all the negative pounding in ads.Based on democrats "road-map" of negative ads conservatives need to follow suit, and keep hammering how dysfunctional WA has become due to the lack of good leadership from the president.

Did you not see any of Cucinelli's ads?

At what amounted to 2 Cucinelli ads to 10 McAuliffe? What's your point? My point is that republicans need to be willing to spend just as much and go just as low- With all that spending and all of those negative ads, McAuliffe barely pulled that rabbit out of the hat.

McAuliffe and his allies used the Democrat's financial advantage in the race to flood the airwaves with negative ads saying Cuccinelli, the state attorney general, would restrict abortion and take away women's access to health care.

Oh they went as low. But no they weren't anywhere close in funding.
 
The lesson is this:

"Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends"

as are most of your posts.

Jake is butthurt because he claimed McCain and Mitt would win, and they didn't... His "mainstream party" is dying and he is desperately looking to blame anyone else, like any progressive would.

I am greatly revived because of last night.

We can beat the Dems if we play this right. We continue to fight ACA, avoid TeaP foolishnesses, and reach out to women and Hispanics and minorities. And cut loose the failing social con positions.
 
Tell me what was libertarian about savis?

Not much at all. That's beside the point that people who voted for him, voted for McAwful.

It's simply that fuckin' blame game shit both parties have to commence in to skirt responsibility for their own failure. Democrats blame republicans. Republicans blame democrats and in election cycles, republicans get the extra tact of blaming those who do not vote for their candidate as an indiaction it is their fault for a republican loss.

No accountability, no repsonsibility, no credibility.
 
In an election with low turn-out- the results, IMO, bode better for republicans. The money thrown around in VA by democrats was huge. No way McAuliffe would have won without all the negative pounding in ads.Based on democrats "road-map" of negative ads conservatives need to follow suit, and keep hammering how dysfunctional WA has become due to the lack of good leadership from the president.

Did you not see any of Cucinelli's ads?

At what amounted to 2 Cucinelli ads to 10 McAuliffe? What's your point? My point is that republicans need to be willing to spend just as much and go just as low- With all that spending and all of those negative ads, McAuliffe barely pulled that rabbit out of the hat.

McAuliffe and his allies used the Democrat's financial advantage in the race to flood the airwaves with negative ads saying Cuccinelli, the state attorney general, would restrict abortion and take away women's access to health care.

yessss. finally somebody understanding that this is BLOODY MURDER, not a hight horse ride :D
 
The lesson is this:

"Tea Parties are for little girls with imaginary friends"

as are most of your posts.

:lol: Pity won't help you, Redfish.

Obamacare is a winning issue if not mired in TeaP silliness.

So worked it as hard as possible, reach out to women and Hispanics and minorities, divorce ourselves from social con positions, and don't threaten shut down and debt faulting.

The GOP can win if it follows the above. If the GOP cannot control the TeaP, then no matter how bad Obama and the ACA, Americans will vote against the Republican Party.

So, the GOP can win if it becomes as left as the dems---fuck that! Let the country fall apart under dem/lib rule and then restart it as a constitutional republic under the constitution.
 

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