Liberals vs. Leftists

[jbander]

Socialists (unlike Communists) believe in easing folks into the Socialist ideals. So many will often spoon-feed Socialism into the population step by step. Communists, on the other hand, will just bulldoze their way and force their ideal upon the populace in one, fell swoop. Biden (philosophically speaking) is closer to Sanders than he will admit. But he's far more to the left than John F. Kennedy was. So, in a hypothetical sense, Biden would likely embrace "single payer" if he was the President 10 or 20 years from now. The very idea that we were willing to force the working class to pay for others' tuition is proof that he embraces some very Socialist ideas.

You fucking clown tell me one tennent of socialism that exist in this country enough to call more then half the poulation socvialist. You are such a dumb fuck you should be ignored but their are other dumb fucks here from your hate gffroup that take therse lies and live off of them,. By they way you don't get your own definition of socialism stupid.

 

[jbander]

These maggots have to be put in their place. They are the biggest threat and enemy to this great country. Don't treat them with kid gloves , they are the lowest form of humanity , these are the same people who supported Hitler in the 30's and 40's

 

[jbander]

I consider anyone who wants to take money from one segment of society and give it to another segment (who is deemed "underprivileged") to be a Socialist. I also consider anyone who seeks to over-regulate the free market and who seeks to force the free market to bend to the whims of an over-sized government to be or lean towards Socialism.

Socialism Defined:

"any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"
"a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism (see COMMUNISM sense 2c) and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I believe Biden and the vast majority of Dems fit into the above definitions.

Stupid, litterally every civilized countgry in the wortld, all the way back to rome has taken care of the needy , that would be taking tax money and used to help them. Thes microbes get confused because the word social is put into the discription of a government program. These people have a brain the size of a microbe.

 

[jbander]

Don't give this scum a inch, their lies are heard loudly by other microbes in the hate party!

 

[jbander]

^^ Had I posted the above, it would have been deemed a "food fight" and my post would have been deleted. But I'm a conservative. ^^

By the way you are by no means a conservitive , you are a MAGA maggot!

 

[jbander]

Biden pure Socialist! Trump is a Constitutionalist.

Fucking microbe give us one tennent of socialism that makes Biden a socialist. by they way we don't give a dam about your made up defintion of socialism. It already has a defintion and that real definition makes your defintion so stupid that it is laughable. I'll give you a hint microbe , The first tennent in every list of tenents of socialism , communism is the "means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sales of that productioin is designated to the state. "Without that one tennent there is no socialism Marxism or communism.

 

[jbander]

When you see this on my post "There are more posts to display. View them?" it's because they are the best posts with the best attack on this scum you find in these forums They tried to dump three of my posts

 

[ActionJackson]

By the way you are by no means a conservitive , you are a MAGA maggot!

I guess that means I have to respond with: You're a friggin' brain-dead Demwitted LibTard. There, now that we have the name-calling out of the way, I can go do something more important than waste my time with some limp-wristed girly boy.

 

[Billo_Really]

A lot of leftist politicians have voters believing that they are liberal. Liberals believe in freedom of speech, leftists do not. Leftists are not interested in anyone's rights except their own. Divide and conquer is how they achieve that. Some of them advocate for (among other things) separate graduation ceremonies for black and white students. There is a name for that. It's called "Separate but equal". In America, liberals are patriotic Americans, leftists are not! Liberal politicians need to challenge leftists in primary elections. The future of America depends on that happening.

I am a leftist and I am a liberal. I believe in free speech for all. I also believe you can shout "fire" in a crowded theater, if, in fact, there is a fire in that theater.

 

[jbander]

I guess that means I have to respond with: You're a friggin' brain-dead Demwitted LibTard. There, now that we have the name-calling out of the way, I can go do something more important than waste my time with some limp-wristed girly boy.

Ya microbe I've asked you multiple times responding and burying your bullshit lies here, answer this "Fucking microbe give us one tennent of socialism that makes Biden a socialist. by they way we don't give a dam about your made up defintion of socialism. It already has a defintion and that real definition makes your defintion so stupid that it is laughable. I'll give you a hint microbe , The first tennent in every list of tenents of socialism , communism is the "means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sales of that productioin is designated to the state. "Without that one tennent there is no socialism Marxism or communism."

 

[jbander]

Like i said don't give this scum a inch!

 

[ActionJackson]

Ya microbe I've asked you multiple times responding and burying your bullshit lies here, answer this "Fucking microbe give us one tennent of socialism that makes Biden a socialist. by they way we don't give a dam about your made up defintion of socialism. It already has a defintion and that real definition makes your defintion so stupid that it is laughable. I'll give you a hint microbe , The first tennent in every list of tenents of socialism , communism is the "means of production is owned and operated by the state and the sales of that productioin is designated to the state. "Without that one tennent there is no socialism Marxism or communism."

Learn to read you illiterate, Marxist faggot.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

jbander owns Action Jackson

 

[MinTrut]

Socialists (unlike Communists) believe in easing folks into the Socialist ideals.

More so than any other group with values?

How does a tiny and powerless minority group accomplish these things?

So many will often spoon-feed Socialism into the population step by step.

A tiny and powerless group is doing this?

Communists, on the other hand, will just bulldoze their way and force their ideal upon the populace in one, fell swoop.

Communism and totalitarianism do have an unfortunate historical overlap, yes.

But only a tiny fraction of the tiny US left is communist, so they're essentially irrelevant.

Biden (philosophically speaking) is closer to Sanders than he will admit.

Well, Sanders is a sleazy real estate investor, but he also seems to at least have some lingering love for social democracy.

Biden is a demented warmongering fascist and conservative criminal capitalist, and a bag/hatchet man for the Democrat Party.

VERY dissimilar men in almost all ways.

But he's far more to the left than John F. Kennedy was.

No - Biden's about the same.

The US has always been a wildly conservative country with criminal capitalist opportunists/psychopaths at its highest levels, and this hasn't changed sine JFK's time.

So, in a hypothetical sense, Biden would likely embrace "single payer" if he was the President 10 or 20 years from now.

Single payer may happen in 20 years or so, once most of the Boomers die off.

But in the meantime, the US will remain the only "advanced" country w/o something like it.

The very idea that we

We?

were willing to force the working class to pay for others' tuition is proof that he embraces some very Socialist ideas.

Biden lied about wanting to do loan forgiveness to garner Democrat votes and for no other reason.

Biden is a socialist like Trump is a modest and monogamous husband.

 

[jbander]

I guess that means I have to respond with: You're a friggin' brain-dead Demwitted LibTard. There, now that we have the name-calling out of the way, I can go do something more important than waste my time with some limp-wristed girly boy.

You fucking clown tell me one tennent of socialism that exist in this country enough to call more then half the poulation socialist. You are such a dumb fuck you should be ignored but there are other dumb fucks here from your hate group that take these lies and live off of them,. By they way you don't get your own definition of socialism stupid.

 

[jbander]

jbander owns Action Jackson

Thank you, thank you, thank you, except I feel a little bit like a bully picking on a 3rd grader. I wouldn't waste my time other then the fact that kicking him when he is down is like kicking the whole scum bag group that are just like him. When I spit on this piece of shit I'm spitting on all the haters in the hate party, The MAGA Maggots.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The good patriotic members of the CoJC thank you, JBander, for kicking Action Jackson across the Ward recreation hall.

 

[ActionJackson]

More so than any other group with values?

How does a tiny and powerless minority group accomplish these things?

A tiny and powerless group is doing this?

Communism and totalitarianism do have an unfortunate historical overlap, yes.

But only a tiny fraction of the tiny US left is communist, so they're essentially irrelevant.

Well, Sanders is a sleazy real estate investor, but he also seems to at least have some lingering love for social democracy.

Biden is a demented warmongering fascist and conservative criminal capitalist, and a bag/hatchet man for the Democrat Party.

VERY dissimilar men in almost all ways.

No - Biden's about the same.

The US has always been a wildly conservative country with criminal capitalist opportunists/psychopaths at its highest levels, and this hasn't changed sine JFK's time.

Single payer may happen in 20 years or so, once most of the Boomers die off.

But in the meantime, the US will remain the only "advanced" country w/o something like it.

We?

Biden lied about wanting to do loan forgiveness to garner Democrat votes and for no other reason.

Biden is a socialist like Trump is a modest and monogamous husband.

Your description of Biden mimics the reality that is Sanders. Sanders is FOR the war against Russia and, as you say, he's a sleazy real estate investor, which makes him a capitalist. So he's a warmongering capitalist, just like Biden is. Both are career politicians who've contributed nothing for the betterment of America. Both have pushed for Socialist ideals. Both have flip-flopped on their stated beliefs depending on the political winds.

If a “small minority group” wishes to better themselves, they do it like anyone else does. They set goals, learn skills, focus, and work hard. They don't sit on their asses complaining that everyone else is “holding them down” when just the opposite is true. For many decades, they had opportunities that the majority did NOT have, yet they chose not to take advantage of them. So, at this point, they need to shut their whimpering mouths and blame themselves for their own shortcomings.

Communism IS Totalitarianism!! They're inseparable.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A lot of leftist politicians have voters believing that they are liberal. Liberals believe in freedom of speech, leftists do not. Leftists are not interested in anyone's rights except their own. Divide and conquer is how they achieve that. Some of them advocate for (among other things) separate graduation ceremonies for black and white students. There is a name for that. It's called "Separate but equal". In America, liberals are patriotic Americans, leftists are not! Liberal politicians need to challenge leftists in primary elections. The future of America depends on that happening.

Er.... this seems to be like a bullshiter's version of the political spectrum.
The problem seems to be that because the US has a Dem/Rep dictatorship, people seem to think there are only two political beliefs. Either you believe Rep or you believe Dem.

In the REAL WORLD, things work differently, on the left there are MANY different types of political belief, just as there are on the right.

 

[MinTrut]

Your description of Biden mimics the reality that is Sanders.

No.

Sanders is FOR the war against Russia

No.

He condemned the invasion, and wanted diplomacy.

But the US Deep Swamp wanted war, so war.

Sanders also opposes Biden on cluster bombs.

and, as you say, he's a sleazy real estate investor,

Yes.

which makes him a capitalist.

That behavior is capitalistic.

So he's a warmongering capitalist,

Not at all.

just like Biden is.

VERY different; see above.

Both are career politicians

Yes.

who've contributed nothing for the betterment of America.

Well, politicians...

But Biden is infinitely worse.

Both have pushed for Socialist ideals.

No.

Sanders has and does push for sanity, decency and social democracy.

Biden is a demented rapist and psychopathic criminal capitalist who may pay lip service to some ideals of the left in some cases.

Both have flip-flopped on their stated beliefs depending on the political winds.

Not often in Bernie's case.

Biden is pure criminal capitalist scum.

If a “small minority group” wishes to better themselves,

Better themselves?

they do it like anyone else does.

They do?

They set goals, learn skills, focus, and work hard.

The US left is too small and powerless to accomplish anything other than barely hanging on.

They're opposed violently by the Democrats AND Republicans.

So most of their energy is spent just surviving.

They don't sit on their asses complaining that everyone else is “holding them down” when just the opposite is true.

What?

This makes no sense.

For many decades, they had opportunities that the majority did NOT have,

Makes no sense.

yet they chose not to take advantage of them.

Makes no sense.

So, at this point, they need to shut their whimpering mouths and blame themselves for their own shortcomings.

Makes no sense.

Communism IS Totalitarianism!!

No.

They're inseparable.

No.

It's too bad our conversation has deteriorated to this level, but do take care.