Liberals vs. Leftists

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Biden is no more a Socialist than Trump.

But Trump and Action Jackson et al are fascists.

 

[ActionJackson]

Biden is no more a Socialist than Trump.

But Trump and Action Jackson et al are fascists.

Biden pure Socialist! Trump is a Constitutionalist.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Biden pure Socialist! Trump is a Constitutionalist.

Trump is a criminal, and Biden is a neo-liberal.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It's not “bilderbert.” It's the Bilderberg Group. Look up the WEF, WHO, IMF, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, United Nations, Tavistock Institute, etc. These organizations are all very powerful, influential, and aim for Globalism. Several of America's Presidents have outwardly spoken about moving America into “The New World Order.” Please learn to pay attention.

And where you came up with “alien overlords” is anybody's guess.

Because 'alien overlords' is no more goofy then the rest of the stuff you believe. Flat earther too?

 

[ActionJackson]

Because 'alien overlords' is no more goofy then the rest of the stuff you believe. Flat earther too?

So you're a conspiracy theorist.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

So you're a conspiracy theorist.

You certainly are, AJ.

 

[jbander]

Didn't "81 million" "vote" for Socialist Biden? Sounds like a tad bit more than a "thimble" full.

Forcing the haves to pay for the have-not's medical care is Socialism.
Forcing the working class to pay for someone else's tuition is Socialism.
Forcing Americans to pay for illegal invaders is Socialism.
Discussing the idea of whites paying reparations to blacks is Socialism.
Forcing companies to hire certain races based on skin color is Socialism.

Please try to pay attention. But for now, you're dismissed.

You to stupid to even have a clue like I said , you scum have to make up your own definition of socialism communism and Marxism to make it work for you , problem is stupid it already has a definition and that definition shoes what a dumb fuck you really are. Hey scummbag when was the last time anyone came upto you and said , You know I think it would be a good idea if the goverenment took up ownership of all businesses and the sale of their production should be designated to that government. What a hoot, love it when stupid asses step right up and verify the fact that they are stupid fucks by their own words.

 

[jbander]

Biden pure Socialist! Trump is a Constitutionalist.

you mean the guy that raped the 13 year old and then told her he would kill her if she talked , that would be a hero of yours.

 

[ActionJackson]

you mean the guy that raped the 13 year old and then told her he would kill her if she talked , that would be a hero of yours.

^^ Had I posted the above ... my post would have been deleted. But I'm a conservative. ^^

 

[ActionJackson]

You to stupid to even have a clue like I said , you scum have to make up your own definition of socialism communism and Marxism to make it work for you , problem is stupid it already has a definition and that definition shoes what a dumb fuck you really are. Hey scummbag when was the last time anyone came upto you and said , You know I think it would be a good idea if the goverenment took up ownership of all businesses and the sale of their production should be designated to that government. What a hoot, love it when stupid asses step right up and verify the fact that they are stupid fucks by their own words.

^^ Had I posted the above, it would have been deemed a "food fight" and my post would have been deleted. But I'm a conservative. ^^

 

[MinTrut]

Yeah, except that's not typical or happens all that often, it's always atheists telling Christians what they believe or how they should be behave since they're Christian.

As a person of faith myself, I've noticed that atheists seem to know the Christian Bible much better than most Christians do.

They don't like it as much, but they know it MUCH better.

 

[MinTrut]

Biden pure Socialist! Trump is a Constitutionalist.

Biden's what the left calls a "fauxcialist."

But even he says he isn't one, and it's one of the few times he isn't lying.

 

[ActionJackson]

Biden's what the left calls a "fauxcialist."

But even he says he isn't one, and it's one of the few times he isn't lying.

I consider anyone who wants to take money from one segment of society and give it to another segment (who is deemed "underprivileged") to be a Socialist. I also consider anyone who seeks to over-regulate the free market and who seeks to force the free market to bend to the whims of an over-sized government to be or lean towards Socialism.

Socialism Defined:

"any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"
"a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism (see COMMUNISM sense 2c) and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I believe Biden and the vast majority of Dems fit into the above definitions.

 

[scruffy]

The left voted for Biden (anybody but Trump}

The left and all their dead relatives and all their drug dealing friends from Mexico.

 

[OldFlame]

As a person of faith myself, I've noticed that atheists seem to know the Christian Bible much better than most Christians do.

They don't like it as much, but they know it MUCH better.

I disagree, they only know what they google, and rarely ever understand the context because they haven't read the verse they're quoting within the greater body of writing it's included in.

 

[MinTrut]

I consider anyone who wants to take money from one segment of society and give it to another segment (who is deemed "underprivileged") to be a Socialist. I also consider anyone who seeks to over-regulate the free market and who seeks to force the free market to bend to the whims of an over-sized government to be or lean towards Socialism.

Socialism Defined:

"any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods"
"a stage of society in Marxist theory that is transitional between capitalism and communism (see COMMUNISM sense 2c) and is distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done"

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

I believe Biden and the vast majority of Dems fit into the above definitions.

^ An unusually thoughtful post for this forum!

But it's a lot more complicated when you consider what REALLY motivates Biden, and what he has & hasn't done.

He & his party have no will to push for single payer for instance, and that's the single most socialist thing he/they could do.

Rather, they prefer to spend BILLIONS in Ukraine.

In 2020, Biden said "I'm not a socialist; I beat the socialist [Bernie Sanders]!"

He was telling the truth that one time, except Sanders wasn't beaten so much as outsmarted (again) by Barry O.

So yeah, Democrats will play footsie with socialist/adjacent dreams, but they will NEVER deliver on them.

Again, the ACA (rather than single payer) demonstrates this beautifully.

The ACA is a grotesque and cruel joke literally written by Big Health Care.

With politicians - and with anyone really - action & inaction speaks MUCH louder than words.

 

[MinTrut]

I disagree, they only know what they google, and rarely ever understand the context because they haven't read the verse they're quoting within the greater body of writing it's included in.

Not my experience, but YMMV.

The last time I (thought I properly) quoted the Bible to an atheist friend, they immediately & literally quoted chapter & verse back, and no electronic device was required.

Ironic.

 

[ActionJackson]

^ An unusually thoughtful post for this forum!

But it's a lot more complicated when you consider what REALLY motivates Biden, and what he has & hasn't done.

He & his party have no will to push for single payer for instance, and that's the single most socialist thing he/they could do.

Rather, they prefer to spend BILLIONS in Ukraine.

In 2020, Biden said "I'm not a socialist; I beat the socialist [Bernie Sanders]!"

He was telling the truth that one time, except Sanders wasn't beaten so much as outsmarted (again) by Barry O.

So yeah, Democrats will play footsie with socialist/adjacent dreams, but they will NEVER deliver on them.

Again, the ACA (rather than single payer) demonstrates this beautifully.

The ACA is a grotesque and cruel joke literally written by Big Health Care.

With politicians - and with anyone really - action & inaction speaks MUCH louder than words.

Socialists (unlike Communists) believe in easing folks into the Socialist ideals. So many will often spoon-feed Socialism into the population step by step. Communists, on the other hand, will just bulldoze their way and force their ideal upon the populace in one, fell swoop. Biden (philosophically speaking) is closer to Sanders than he will admit. But he's far more to the left than John F. Kennedy was. So, in a hypothetical sense, Biden would likely embrace "single payer" if he was the President 10 or 20 years from now. The very idea that we were willing to force the working class to pay for others' tuition is proof that he embraces some very Socialist ideas.

 

[jbander]

^^ Had I posted the above ... my post would have been deleted. But I'm a conservative. ^^

Poor baby so abused. Wimp ass maggot!

 

[jbander]

Yup because

As a person of faith myself, I've noticed that atheists seem to know the Christian Bible much better than most Christians do.

They don't like it as much, but they know it MUCH better.

they became athiest because they read the bible. it is a very frightening hateful crule book! Meaning the old testiment. I only believe what Jesus said and did.