PoliticalChic
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You have it completely wrong. The voters never changed their values, the parties did. Is the party of Lincoln the same party as that of Trump? I see no similarities.Although I wouldn't accuse today's GOP of embracing segregation it is unquestionably true the the two parties switched their positions on a number of issues.b. While the Republican Party was founded to fight slavery and for civil rights, at some point they reversed that perspective and embraced segregation.
During the 1860s, Republicans, who dominated northern states, orchestrated an ambitious expansion of federal power, helping to fund the transcontinental railroad, the state university system and the settlement of the West by homesteaders, and instating a national currency and protective tariff. Democrats, who dominated the South, opposed these measures. After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power.
Sound like an alternate universe? Fast forward to 1936. Democratic president Franklin Roosevelt won reelection that year on the strength of the New Deal, a set of Depression-remedying reforms including regulation of financial institutions, founding of welfare and pension programs, infrastructure development and more. Roosevelt won in a landslide against Republican Alf Landon, who opposed these exercises of federal power.
Those of us who lived through the end of segregation remember the switch on this issue. Southern Dems were segregationists and used 'States Rights' as their motto. When Southern schools were forceably desegregated by Eisenhower (the last of the old-style GOP) and Kennedy and the Civil Rights bill was passed under Johnson, Southern Dems left the party. Goldwater was a vocal opponent to desegregation and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, believing it was an overreach of federal government and changed the GOP into what we now have.
".... it is unquestionably true the the two parties switched their positions on a number of issues."
Of course, you're an imbecile.
Watch me prove how truly stupid the 'flip' myth is:
What the chances are that, after a lifetime of believing as you do, arguing DNC talking points, reading the NYTimes, and watching MSNBC, being indoctrinated...er, 'taught' in government schools, and watching Comedy Central for your news.....
.....what are the chances would be that you woke up tomorrow praising Donald Trump's election and presidency, and voting Republican......you know....'flipping.'
And that calculation represents the same chance that Republicans and conservatives, who formed a party to fight Democrats and slavery, suddenly decided to become racists.
"I see no similarities."
The list of things you don't see is endless.
That's why I described you as a dunce.
The parties never changed: the Republicans were created to fight the slavery party, the Democrats.
Even a dunce should see the consistency, as the personification of the Democrat Party....Bill Clinton....has been a racist his entire life.
Challenge me on that, dunce.