Let's talk about POOR U.S. CITIZENS no one else is this election year!

[hortysir]

We have the richest 'poor' in the world.

That's not the point. The point is, the poor are quite poor compared to the wealthy whom they envy.

The uber-wealthy you refer to as being envied make up such a small percentage of our population.

And don't you think "envy" is too weak of a word?
When one envies something they really desire, they do what's needed to attain it.

I would use the word 'jealous'.

The opportunities are the same.
How one chooses to utilize them makes all the difference.

Before Rderp jumps and calls me callous and uncaring; I realize this probably reads that way.

I have empathy for our poor. I've been there, I still have family that are.

A lot of us are about 2 paychecks away from losing it all.

I just don't see the point in begrudging someone else's good choices/fortune.

 

[Salt Jones]

This Week in Poverty: Obama

No one, neither party, wants to talk about poor U. S. CITIZENS, yet we send bombers to Libya, troops to Afghanistan, and food to every international disaster. Why don't we take care of our own poor first?

Give them education, training, and opportunity. Prepare them for a world where we all make our own breaks. We should not allow a single immigrant into the United States until all of our CITIZENS have been given a REAL opportunity to improve themselves, (that is opportunity, not free lunch), We need to take care of our own first! Because when we do, we can tax them too!

I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but that is not the point. Neither party is addressing this issue. We need to turn our citizens who are liabilities into assets. This is not a political idea, this is an American concept. If we get everyone paying, everyone pays less! The only ones who should not have to work are the totally disabled. This is not a partisan concept, this is an American concept!

Fuck 'em.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Uh, the majority of so-called poor in this country own TVs, PS3s, etc.

If you want to see poor, go to Afghanistan, idiot.

But don't worry, Obamination and goons in Congress are making sure the "poor" get their welfare/unemployment checks extended every year so they don't feel like getting out of bed for work anymore.

This Week in Poverty: Obama

No one, neither party, wants to talk about poor U. S. CITIZENS, yet we send bombers to Libya, troops to Afghanistan, and food to every international disaster. Why don't we take care of our own poor first?

Give them education, training, and opportunity. Prepare them for a world where we all make our own breaks. We should not allow a single immigrant into the United States until all of our CITIZENS have been given a REAL opportunity to improve themselves, (that is opportunity, not free lunch), We need to take care of our own first! Because when we do, we can tax them too!

I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but that is not the point. Neither party is addressing this issue. We need to turn our citizens who are liabilities into assets. This is not a political idea, this is an American concept. If we get everyone paying, everyone pays less! The only ones who should not have to work are the totally disabled. This is not a partisan concept, this is an American concept!

 

[gallantwarrior]

! Americans are pissed and don't like anyone, but they are watching OWS.

OWS is a bunch or retards that no one listens to or cares about.

I think you could probably find a similar quote from a monarchist describing the founders. if the message is populist it is never anything to lightly dismiss. So anyway, what is it you like about Wall Street buying our politicians?

What is it you like about unions and big business buying our politicians? But why blame them, if the pols weren't for sale to begin with, we wouldn't have this situation.

 

[hortysir]

This Week in Poverty: Obama

No one, neither party, wants to talk about poor U. S. CITIZENS, yet we send bombers to Libya, troops to Afghanistan, and food to every international disaster. Why don't we take care of our own poor first?

Give them education, training, and opportunity. Prepare them for a world where we all make our own breaks. We should not allow a single immigrant into the United States until all of our CITIZENS have been given a REAL opportunity to improve themselves, (that is opportunity, not free lunch), We need to take care of our own first! Because when we do, we can tax them too!

I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but that is not the point. Neither party is addressing this issue. We need to turn our citizens who are liabilities into assets. This is not a political idea, this is an American concept. If we get everyone paying, everyone pays less! The only ones who should not have to work are the totally disabled. This is not a partisan concept, this is an American concept!

Fuck 'em.

They're the only ones that would let you?

 

[gallantwarrior]

OWS is a bunch or retards that no one listens to or cares about.

Yeah, the only thing I see OW doing is committing crimes ~shrug~ OW does not stand for anything worthwhile like the Tea Party does.

That happens when you watch trash media, the only things you see are what they want you to see.

That's quite true. But who gets to define "trash"? One man's trash is another man's treasure.

 

[Salt Jones]

This Week in Poverty: Obama

No one, neither party, wants to talk about poor U. S. CITIZENS, yet we send bombers to Libya, troops to Afghanistan, and food to every international disaster. Why don't we take care of our own poor first?

Give them education, training, and opportunity. Prepare them for a world where we all make our own breaks. We should not allow a single immigrant into the United States until all of our CITIZENS have been given a REAL opportunity to improve themselves, (that is opportunity, not free lunch), We need to take care of our own first! Because when we do, we can tax them too!

I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but that is not the point. Neither party is addressing this issue. We need to turn our citizens who are liabilities into assets. This is not a political idea, this is an American concept. If we get everyone paying, everyone pays less! The only ones who should not have to work are the totally disabled. This is not a partisan concept, this is an American concept!

Fuck 'em.

They're the only ones that would let you?

Nice retort, but untrue and I have the videos to prove it.

 

[The T]

Naturegirl... The Democrats know that, they just don't want their voting base to know that. They'd rather the poor stay put, until they are needed to be "counted" on Election day.

Not to mention being kept on the plantation and CONTROLLED.

 

[Salt Jones]

Naturegirl... The Democrats know that, they just don't want their voting base to know that. They'd rather the poor stay put, until they are needed to be "counted" on Election day.

Not to mention being kept on the plantation and CONTROLLED.

Capitalizing doesn't make your lie any truer, proven liar.

 

[hortysir]

Bill Clinton:
"When I signed the Welfare Reform Act in 1996, requiring able-bodied people who could work to do so, there was legitimate concern that there would not be jobs available for them because they tended to be under-educated and to have less experience, and tha when the economy slowed down, as it inevitably would, they would be the first laid off. While there have been some problems, welfare reform has been largely successful. The welfare rolls have dropped nearly 60%, more than 7 million people, by the time I left office, and have continued to drop since. In 2000, the percentage of Americans on welfare reached its lowest point in four decades. During the economic downturn of 2001, many of those who came off the welfare rolls were able to stay in the workforce in part due to policies designed to help them succeed",
Bill Clinton on Welfare & Poverty

In addition, Census Bureau data show that between 1993 and 2000, the percentage of low-income, single mothers with a job grew from 58 percent to nearly 75 percent, an increase of almost 30 percent.Welfare Reform in the United States Requires Welfare Recipients to Go to Work - 23k

In 1997 Obama opposed an Illinois welfare-reform bill, proposed by Republican senator Dave Syverson, which sought to move as many people as possible off the state welfare rolls and into paying jobs.
Obama's Voting Record and Policy Positions Prior to His Election As President - Discover the Networks


Despite its success, or perhaps because of it, President Obama and his allies are doing all they can to destroy welfare reform. Mr. Obama’s $862 billion stimulus package last February essentially abolished welfare reform by subsidizing the expansion of welfare rolls. The federal government now pays states 80 percent of the cost for each new family they add to their welfare rolls, a move that eliminates states’ incentive to push welfare recipients into the job force.
BAUER: Ending welfare reform - Washington Times

Partly as a consequence of the infusion of federal welfare funds, welfare rolls increased in 2009 for the first time since PRWORA was enacted, growing 5 percent as 200,000 more
Americans were added.
Welfare Reform Essays and Articles at eNotes

Why does this administration want to put more people on Welfare?

http://Cloward-Piven.com

 

[gallantwarrior]

The poor are all but invisible to Washington DC except for every four years when their vote is required. Republicans have apparently decided that they are no longer needed even for that. The social programs that help the poor and even the poor themselves are spoken of in the same tone they used to reserve for our nation's enemies, we can only conclude that the poor have been publicly abandoned by the GOP.

Not just abandoned by the GOP. You said it yourself, they are invisible to DC, ALL of the pols, except whenmit comes election time.

 

[Lovebears65]

In America we have the richest poor people out there.. I am sorry if you have a roof over your head, food in your fridge and a car to drive you are far from being poor. even the homeless in our country have it better then the poor in 3rd world countries. What is wrong with our country is everyone wants a hand out not a hand up..

This Week in Poverty: Obama

No one, neither party, wants to talk about poor U. S. CITIZENS, yet we send bombers to Libya, troops to Afghanistan, and food to every international disaster. Why don't we take care of our own poor first?

Give them education, training, and opportunity. Prepare them for a world where we all make our own breaks. We should not allow a single immigrant into the United States until all of our CITIZENS have been given a REAL opportunity to improve themselves, (that is opportunity, not free lunch), We need to take care of our own first! Because when we do, we can tax them too!

I happen to be a liberal Democrat, but that is not the point. Neither party is addressing this issue. We need to turn our citizens who are liabilities into assets. This is not a political idea, this is an American concept. If we get everyone paying, everyone pays less! The only ones who should not have to work are the totally disabled. This is not a partisan concept, this is an American concept!

 

[hortysir]

The poor are all but invisible to Washington DC except for every four years when their vote is required. Republicans have apparently decided that they are no longer needed even for that. The social programs that help the poor and even the poor themselves are spoken of in the same tone they used to reserve for our nation's enemies, we can only conclude that the poor have been publicly abandoned by the GOP.

Never been there, huh?

 

[Misty]

Let's talk about POOR U.S. CITIZENS no one else is this election year!

Wrong. Democrats want to help them.

Republicans want to:

Suppress their vote

Let them starve

Make sure they can never get an education

Let them die

Grind them down into the dirt

Not something that can be denied.

The poor are well taken care of in this country, so well in fact they pass down their welfare checks like an inheritance.

 

[The T]

The poor are all but invisible to Washington DC except for every four years when their vote is required. Republicans have apparently decided that they are no longer needed even for that. The social programs that help the poor and even the poor themselves are spoken of in the same tone they used to reserve for our nation's enemies, we can only conclude that the poor have been publicly abandoned by the GOP.

Not just abandoned by the GOP. You said it yourself, they are invisible to DC, ALL of the pols, except whenmit comes election time.

District of Criminals past due for enema.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Some "poor" have been caught selling their food stamps on Craigslist, then going back to get more claiming they lost them.

My sister works in social services in NC and says when they do visits, they see men bolting from the ghetto apartments so that the women can claim the men aren't supporting them. Also, these women just change schools and majors endlessly to stay in school so they get FREE childcare.

Taxpayers are being robbed by the poor, but are too oblivious to the scam until the whole system comes crashing down in due time.

The kicker is these assholes from the so-called "poor" will be rioting in the streets when they bring down the system from fraud.

 

[The T]

Let's talk about POOR U.S. CITIZENS no one else is this election year!

Wrong. Democrats want to help them.

Republicans want to:

Suppress their vote

Let them starve

Make sure they can never get an education

Let them die

Grind them down into the dirt

Not something that can be denied.

The poor are well taken care of in this country, so well in fact they pass down their welfare checks like an inheritance.

And get pissed when it doesn't arrive in time.

 

[flacaltenn]

The OP here is the perfect example of why I believe most "bleeding heart liberals" are clinically afflicted with co-dependency.. The concept that the power to fix the "poor" is just a check away.. That the little girl with the crack-head mom is gonna get something from the govt to guarantee her a good life.

The leftist misconception is that by "caring" we validate our inclusion in society.. And those that don't want to redistribute mere money are "selfish".. Once you actually TRY to fix someone's problem with a program or a check -- you learn how selfish and stupid that actually is..

The most effective move is "one on one" time. Not something that Washington or your state capitol excels at. And you'll find yourself being dragged lower than you can stand -- if you attempt to help someone who is NOT READY to admit to problems.

That's the co-dependent part. You find yourself searching the gutters at 3 in the morning for the one you're trying to help and discover that it makes you feel important. But it's NOT effective, or wise..
When you look FIRST to politics to help these people --- you MUST be a progressive. A philosophy with a solid track record of forced sterilizations, lost privacy rights, and deep disrespect for the integrity of those they are trying to help....

 

[WillowTree]

By the way, I think Mitt Romney has missed an important opportunity to appeal to middle class voters here. As members of the middle class slip into the low income category, Romney could have come up with alternatives not only to help the middle class, but help the poor build lives.

Not only would this have been good for the economy, and Romney's election chances, it would have been a chance to do something for someone beside the 1%. Everyone is tired of hearing about the 1% and their fictional problems.

I am sorry, but I don't see Romney worrying about me. When guys like me start turning to OWS and away from the Democratic Party, American has a problem. And, what is that you ask? Wall Street owns the Republicans, and rents the Democrats. Neither gives a damn about me. In 2009 and 2010 Democrats had the White House and Congress. We had the biggest financial crisis in history. No hearings were held, and no one went to jail.

The Tea Party has been obstructionist, and has accomplished nothing that helps the middle class. Nothing is getting done in Washington, and Americans blame the Tea Party. I predict this will be their last election. Out as fast as they came in. OWS says vote incumbents out, and so far, I agree! Americans are pissed and don't like anyone, but they are watching OWS.

you agree with ows? that makes you the moron of the year.

 

[Salt Jones]

By the way, I think Mitt Romney has missed an important opportunity to appeal to middle class voters here. As members of the middle class slip into the low income category, Romney could have come up with alternatives not only to help the middle class, but help the poor build lives.

Not only would this have been good for the economy, and Romney's election chances, it would have been a chance to do something for someone beside the 1%. Everyone is tired of hearing about the 1% and their fictional problems.

I am sorry, but I don't see Romney worrying about me. When guys like me start turning to OWS and away from the Democratic Party, American has a problem. And, what is that you ask? Wall Street owns the Republicans, and rents the Democrats. Neither gives a damn about me. In 2009 and 2010 Democrats had the White House and Congress. We had the biggest financial crisis in history. No hearings were held, and no one went to jail.

The Tea Party has been obstructionist, and has accomplished nothing that helps the middle class. Nothing is getting done in Washington, and Americans blame the Tea Party. I predict this will be their last election. Out as fast as they came in. OWS says vote incumbents out, and so far, I agree! Americans are pissed and don't like anyone, but they are watching OWS.

you agree with ows? that makes you the moron of the year.

What? Someone ended your 30 year reign?