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    The Democrats have the White House,and both houses of Congress. They had the sixty votes
    necessary to pass the bill. Now I see Democrat senator after senator on MSNBC complaining about the bill.

    Harry Reid on the floor of the Senate crying that while he's speaking Americans are dying
    because they don't have health care.

    Isn't it true that the full effect of this bill doesn't take effect until 4 years from now.

    This has to be a real bad movie that we are all watching. Please people we need to get these Democrats out of power as quickly as possible.:eusa_pray:
     
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    Do you want to get the Democrats out of power to put in better Democrats or to put the Republicans back in power? If the latter, how much sooner do you estimate the Republicans would be saving those lives?
     
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    Of course the bill sucks now. 40 million or so of lobbyist money has been spent to achieve on of the following goals.

    1.. Kill heealthcare reform.
    2.. Kill it by making the bill something no one wants.
    3.. Make sure if it passes it is favorable to those contributing the lobbyist monies.


    Perhaps we will likely have a mix of 2 and 3.
     
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    Did You read my post?....The people who put this bill together don't like it. and your answer to that is to point the finger at the Republicans....The leader of the Senate says we need to do this now and the bill doesn't kick in for 4 years,and you point the finger at the Republicans..

    I give up. We are doomed as a country with these guys in power. Spend,Spend,Spend.....and have it do nothing. I can't wait for the second coronation of the boy king at the State of the Union speech when the media crowns the King....again.
     
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    What... you were expecting reason....:lol:
     
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    Who created the messes they are trying to clean up?

    I dont think the republics did anything but make the messes
     
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    Jeeze. Last I heard Truth. The Dems had control of Congress for what, 50 years. You honestly don't think they are responsible for any of THIS MESS?

    LBJ unlocked the lockbox on SS and look at the mess thats in. Last I heard Medicare and Welfare were put in place by Democratics Look at the mess those programs are in.

    The Reps played their part as well by spending like drunken sailors when they had control of Congress. They aren't innocent but they sure didn't do anything by themselves. The Dems had control for the last 2 years and they did nothing but spend as well. They are still spending with money we ain't got.

    We'll just see where this clusterfuck of a healthcare bill leads us. My guess it will be right to the poor house. The only folks who won't be affected are those who are already living on the largesse of the taxpayers of America. Their little EBT cards will always have money in em.
     
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    All the western countries have single payer healthcare and they will be competeing with our corps who have to pay half of their employees health care premiums. How the fuck do you think they will fare against other western corps who are free of this cost? Universal single payer healthcare is going to happen in this country. Its a matter of how long and how we end up there. Republicans defend the exsisting insurance assholes hwo have seen under Bush unbelieveable profit. How much would healthcare cost without the profit these leaches gleen out of the sytem? You people are really fucking short sited.
     
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    where did I point the finger at republicans in particular?
    And we even got an amen or two from the right wing choir :)

    Guilty concience?

    my post you replied to:

    Of course the bill sucks now. 40 million or so of lobbyist money has been spent to achieve on of the following goals.

    1.. Kill heealthcare reform.
    2.. Kill it by making the bill something no one wants.
    3.. Make sure if it passes it is favorable to those contributing the lobbyist monies.


    Perhaps we will likely have a mix of 2 and 3.
     
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