Let us not forget who dipped into SOCIAL SECURITY

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    Rodishi is right. Just this year, the state of Oregon determined that the Dept. of Human Services can verify identity using..not just a social security CARD...but the number itself. As long as it shows up on the SSA record screens that the state has access to.
     
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    No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.
     
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    Oh brother, no one was cheating. The stinking lying criminal ruling class passed changes to SS, allowing it.

    Don't be a dumb ass.
     
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    No, that is not how it was intended to be used. Slick tax cheats figured out how wealthy COUPLES could pervert the law for their personal gain, and Obama closed the loophole on the tax cheats. If you were not a tax cheat or were single, closing the loophole had no effect on you.
     
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    Bull shit. People were allowed to do it. It was the law.

    Stop with your foolishness.

    I could have used this loophole as could have millions of Americans. I am not of age yet, but would have used it if it were available. I am not rich or a tax cheat...fool.
     
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    The loophole applies only to COUPLES who work after retirement age and make OVER a certain threshold in adjusted income. The tax cheats worked a way around the threshold limit thus perverting the law, that loophole only was removed.
     
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    Rodishi, social security funds were not, (as you contend), "dipped" into.

    Tax revenues allocated for Social Security are not spent for other purposes. The money is held as U.S. Treasury securities earning interest on behalf of Social Security administration until the moneys are spent for their intended purposes.

    There are those uninformed and/or illogical and/or thoughtless people unable to understand or appreciate this concept; there are disingenuous politicians to placate such people.

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    Rodishi, defecation occurs; but I’m unaware of any illegal changes to our social security system. You’re not opposed to Social security simply because the systems’, (as all laws and regulations) may be subject to change?

    You apparently believe some changes to our Social Security systems are unreasonable or unjustified. Precisely identify and explain why those modifications should not have been made and what remedies are you advocating?


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    `If only Republicans had started Social Security think of the shape it would be in now.
    Of course the Republicans were afraid the USA would go communistic if passed, so those brave warriors fought it all the way. Of course the Republicans fought other programs to save America from communism, and they are now engaged in a similar battle to rid America of Obama-care.
     
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    Social Security is a constant and great irritation to the Republican Party.
    In the 9130s', Republicans were the extremely unpopular minority party; Republicans in congress couldn't possibly prevented Social Security from being enacted. Since its enactment, Republicans could not directly kill it, and their efforts to undermine or otherwise weaken it have all thus far failed. It remains a constant and great irritation to the Republican Party.

    Now due to medical technological advancements, life spans have increased; (but the quality of those increased years have not been equally improved).

    Since 1975, (despite Republicans effort to prevent it's enactment), Social Security retirement benefits have been pegged to the U-CP index and retain their purchasing powers. Social Security benefits continue to reduce poverty among the elderly, their families. Thus it continues to be of net benefit to USA's economy.

    Other than the actual amounts and method of funding Social Security retirement, I'm aware of no significant administrating fault within our federal Social Security program.

    I advocate the FICA 15.3% taxes upon payrolls be reduced to 6.2% and the tax revenue will be Increased by a replacing effective 4.55% general federal sales tax. This would net increase federal tax revenue.
    It would eliminate half of FICA payroll contributions to Social Security, FICA's entire contributions to Medicare, and reduce each employee's and employer's FICA contributions by 4.55% of payrolls.


    Refer to A populist tax proposal

    Respectfully, Supposn
     
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