Let us not forget who dipped into SOCIAL SECURITY

[Dan Stubbs]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

You are not complete in as you left out that the Government has been issuing IOUs to the SS fund for many years....Or are you like me and losing information as we get older.

 

[12icer]

You need to read the actual actions not the synopsis of your links They don't exactly match the narrative by some archive employee. Just like a lot of the bills brought from the Thomas Library have a new narrative to twist the readers view to a liberal view like the second amendment narrative.

 

[edthecynic]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

 

[gipper]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

 

[edthecynic]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

 

[gipper]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

 

[edthecynic]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

 

[gipper]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

 

[RodISHI]

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

Thank you!

 

[RodISHI]

You need to read the actual actions not the synopsis of your links They don't exactly match the narrative by some archive employee. Just like a lot of the bills brought from the Thomas Library have a new narrative to twist the readers view to a liberal view like the second amendment narrative.

Creative accounting is the same as theft.

 

[koshergrl]

Rodishi is right. Just this year, the state of Oregon determined that the Dept. of Human Services can verify identity using..not just a social security CARD...but the number itself. As long as it shows up on the SSA record screens that the state has access to.

 

[edthecynic]

So typical of everything from the Right, ALL LIES!

For example:
Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Truth: There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Example # 2:
Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

Truth: The taxation of Social Security began in 1984 following passage of a set of Amendments in 1983, which were signed into law by President Reagan in April 1983. These amendments passed the Congress in 1983 on an overwhelmingly bi-partisan vote.

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.

 

[gipper]

Yet Obama cut SS and no one knows about it.

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.

Oh brother, no one was cheating. The stinking lying criminal ruling class passed changes to SS, allowing it.

Don't be a dumb ass.

 

[edthecynic]

Probably because it never actually happened.
Please link to the LAW he signed.

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.

Oh brother, no one was cheating. The stinking lying criminal ruling class passed changes to SS, allowing it.

Don't be a dumb ass.

No, that is not how it was intended to be used. Slick tax cheats figured out how wealthy COUPLES could pervert the law for their personal gain, and Obama closed the loophole on the tax cheats. If you were not a tax cheat or were single, closing the loophole had no effect on you.

 

[gipper]

You just proved once again how uninformed you are. When will you learn?

Linked it months ago when it happened. Even linked the thread I generated.

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.

Oh brother, no one was cheating. The stinking lying criminal ruling class passed changes to SS, allowing it.

Don't be a dumb ass.

No, that is not how it was intended to be used. Slick tax cheats figured out how wealthy COUPLES could pervert the law for their personal gain, and Obama closed the loophole on the tax cheats. If you were not a tax cheat or were single, closing the loophole had no effect on you.

Bull shit. People were allowed to do it. It was the law.

Stop with your foolishness.

I could have used this loophole as could have millions of Americans. I am not of age yet, but would have used it if it were available. I am not rich or a tax cheat...fool.

 

[edthecynic]

So, you are trying to pass off the removal of a loophole that was abused by WEALTHY COUPLES who try to game the SS system as a cut in benefits to ALL collecting SS. A typical CON$ervoFascist half-truth/whole-lie.

Beware of the half-truth. You may have gotten hold of the wrong half.
- Seymour Essrog

Can't you be honest about this?

I can see cutting this benefit but the fact remains, Obama CUT SOCIAL SECURITY!!!

You didn't even know about this as most Americans don't, thanks to a dishonest media.

Trick Question: If W or Trump did this, would the DNC media still have kept you in the dark?

No he didn't, he cut cheating SS by using a loophole only available to wealthy couples.

Oh brother, no one was cheating. The stinking lying criminal ruling class passed changes to SS, allowing it.

Don't be a dumb ass.

No, that is not how it was intended to be used. Slick tax cheats figured out how wealthy COUPLES could pervert the law for their personal gain, and Obama closed the loophole on the tax cheats. If you were not a tax cheat or were single, closing the loophole had no effect on you.

Bull shit. People were allowed to do it. It was the law.

Stop with your foolishness.

I could have used this loophole as could have millions of Americans. I am not of age yet, but would have used it if it were available. I am not rich or a tax cheat...fool.

The loophole applies only to COUPLES who work after retirement age and make OVER a certain threshold in adjusted income. The tax cheats worked a way around the threshold limit thus perverting the law, that loophole only was removed.

 

[Supposn]

... That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent] ...

Rodishi, social security funds were not, (as you contend), "dipped" into.

Tax revenues allocated for Social Security are not spent for other purposes. The money is held as U.S. Treasury securities earning interest on behalf of Social Security administration until the moneys are spent for their intended purposes.

There are those uninformed and/or illogical and/or thoughtless people unable to understand or appreciate this concept; there are disingenuous politicians to placate such people.

Respectfully, Supposn

 

[Supposn]

HISTORY LESSON ON YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY CARD

Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this. It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.

Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes.

Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION message was removed.

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. His promises are in black, with updates in red.

1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary [No longer voluntary],

2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program [Now 7.65% on the first $90,000, and 15% on the first $90,000 if you’re self-employed],

3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year [No longer tax deductible],

4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program [Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent], and

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income [Under Clinton & Gore up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed].

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put away’ — you may be interested in the following:

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate.

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

AND MY FAVORITE:

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants?

A: That’s right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

Now, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it! If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, though. Some Democrats are awfully sure of what isn’t so — but it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?

Actions speak louder than bumper stickers.

Rodishi, defecation occurs; but I’m unaware of any illegal changes to our social security system. You’re not opposed to Social security simply because the systems’, (as all laws and regulations) may be subject to change?

You apparently believe some changes to our Social Security systems are unreasonable or unjustified. Precisely identify and explain why those modifications should not have been made and what remedies are you advocating?


Respectfully, Supposn

 

[regent]

`If only Republicans had started Social Security think of the shape it would be in now.
Of course the Republicans were afraid the USA would go communistic if passed, so those brave warriors fought it all the way. Of course the Republicans fought other programs to save America from communism, and they are now engaged in a similar battle to rid America of Obama-care.

 

[Supposn]

`If only Republicans had started Social Security think of the shape it would be in now.
Of course the Republicans were afraid the USA would go communistic if passed, so those brave warriors fought it all the way. Of course the Republicans fought other programs to save America from communism, and they are now engaged in a similar battle to rid America of Obama-care.

Social Security is a constant and great irritation to the Republican Party.
In the 9130s', Republicans were the extremely unpopular minority party; Republicans in congress couldn't possibly prevented Social Security from being enacted. Since its enactment, Republicans could not directly kill it, and their efforts to undermine or otherwise weaken it have all thus far failed. It remains a constant and great irritation to the Republican Party.

Now due to medical technological advancements, life spans have increased; (but the quality of those increased years have not been equally improved).

Since 1975, (despite Republicans effort to prevent it's enactment), Social Security retirement benefits have been pegged to the U-CP index and retain their purchasing powers. Social Security benefits continue to reduce poverty among the elderly, their families. Thus it continues to be of net benefit to USA's economy.

Other than the actual amounts and method of funding Social Security retirement, I'm aware of no significant administrating fault within our federal Social Security program.

I advocate the FICA 15.3% taxes upon payrolls be reduced to 6.2% and the tax revenue will be Increased by a replacing effective 4.55% general federal sales tax. This would net increase federal tax revenue.
It would eliminate half of FICA payroll contributions to Social Security, FICA's entire contributions to Medicare, and reduce each employee's and employer's FICA contributions by 4.55% of payrolls.

Refer to A populist tax proposal

Respectfully, Supposn