large tent city in nj homeless (hope change)

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    Here is one of many tent cities Here in New Jersey that came about over the past year, people of all races and all ages come to live to together in these tent cities thats lost their jobs and their homes, waiting for Hope and Change.
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    This is are hope and change redistribute of the wealth. To young to retire unemployment runs out, no jobs out their, bank takes the house, shelters are full.
    Did hope and change come to your State yet, if not get ready its coming.
    Oh well its nice to know we bailed out the banks and interest rates are at all time lows but their just not giving loans but at least we know their getting them nice million dollar bonuses and enjoying their wealth. So we the people are just moving into these nice tent cities who should we thank Bush or Obama.
    After all if we did not bail out the banks all them poor bankers would be out of work and they would have had to move into the tent cities that would not be right, this is better they can buy properties for pennies on the dollar now. I was talking to a guy out of work could not pay his property taxes his house was almost paid off but they took it off his hands I was told.
    Change hope, redistribute the wealth well their doing it.
     
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    Actually, we bailed out the banking system to ensure that the whole damned country didn't go down in flames. Which it would have if the banks had gone down in flames - it was never about saving the bankers - it was about saving Americans bank accounts.

    Having said that, what is happening in the country is horrifying.... but, generally, there is blame enough for everyone. The banks, the politicians and each and every American who lived beyond their means and borrowed money they could not afford to repay.
     
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    You do realize the events that were set in motion to cause these people to be homeless, were set in motion before Obama became president?
     
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    It most certainly was.... interesting though that when Bush tried to get congress to actually do something BEFORE the shit hit the fan, no one listened. It's all well and good to blame one party or one person but the facts do not stand up for that opinion. Fact is, that there is blame enough for all our politicians - going back decades - and more than enough for the bankers themselves - and plenty left for the rest of us for living beyond our means.
     
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    what do you think Bush wanted to do to stop things?
     
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    and imagine how much worse it would have been if the same poor decision-makers of the prior admin were still in place.
     
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    Did he or did he not try to regulate Freddie and Fannie back in 2003?

    Did he or did he not speak on numerous occasions on the potential for economic problems - on the advice of many well respected economists - from 2003 onwards?

    Blaming Bush - or any other individual is just fucking ridiculous.
     
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    Imagine how much better it could have been if the democrats in congress had worked with the previous administration to halt the madness happening in Freddie and Fanny.

    Jillian, I am disappointed by your partisanship on this. You're not one of the koolaiders... you know damned well that Bush tried to regulate Freddie and Fanny. You know he tried to warn congress back on various occasions that we needed to take action about the banking system.

    Who blocked it? The fucking democrats. That is who. Live with it. Even given that fact, I still don't seek to blame the democrats. Why is that? Because the republicans were no better.... nor were the banks... and no one held a gun to any individual's head and forced them to borrow more than they could afford.

    Could we not, just once, be honest with each other and ourselves and say this 'perfect storm' is owned by all of us.
     
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    Stories like this are heartbreaking, but I am a pragmatist, not an idealogue. Its easy to blame the banks and the govt, but I would bet a dime to a dollar that many of those folks were living beyond their means for years. I have lived in NJ most of my life and have witnessed colleagues, friends and family living paycheck to paycheck, all the while enjoying every brand new toy that comes out.Long before the recession, I was baffled how families making six figures could afford nine figure second homes or how people making 50K could afford a new car every two years. No one saves for a rainy day anymore. Hopefully young people will learn from this. Although I'm doubtful.
     
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