Lack Of "Personal Responsibility" - A Code Phrase, Perhaps? Perhaps.

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    There is a thread out there right now asking what we should do for the children of irresponsible parents who, due to thier own failings, are unable to provide for their own children.

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/114407-what-do-we-do-for-the-children-in-need.html

    The idea is that, while the parents are irresponsible and therefore undeserving of anything, their children are innocent - so what about them?

    And thus, the conservative theme of "personal responsibility," albeit somewhat obliquely, once again rears its ugly head.

    "Personal responsibility" SOUNDS like a great thing to emphasize. Shouldn't everyone be personally repsponsible for their actions (or lack thereof)? One would certainly think so. How could anyone argue against that?

    Unfortunately, as used by so many conservatives, "personal responsibility" is nothing more than a code phrase for: "I've got mine - screw you!" "Personal responsibility" seems to be always dragged out by many conservatives whenever the subject of government programs or welfare comes up. The recipiants of such programs are vilified as being undeserving of any government aid because, if they had just had some "personal responsiblity," none of this would be necessary.

    Of course, the "this" is tax dollars going into the government programs and guess what is REALLY on the mind of those objecting to such programs - hint: it has noting to do with "personal responsibility."

    It is SO easy for the "haves" to become morally judgmental toward the "have-nots" when it comes to such things as tax dollars going out to help the have-nots. Sure, there is such a thing as welfare fraud. But there is also such a thing as people who truly need welfare, and it has NOTHING to do with a lack of "personal responsibility."

    So let's not be so hard on the "irresponsible" parents of children. It is entirely possible that the parents fall into the classification of those who really are in legitimate need of welfare - a need not caused by any perceived lack of "personal responsibility."
     
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    Hiding behind the chiiillllldrreeeennn is the lowest form of intellectual and moral cowardice.
     
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    I sure don't want to see children struggle to survive and thrive in our society however a quick check of American history will show that some of our greatest citizens lived through terrible childhoods. Instead of killing them their struggles made them stronger and led to great lives and great things for the world.
    I will always support this nations commitment to helping the weakest among us but sometimes I wonder which road is more enlightening and rewarding the smooth one or the bumpy one.
    Lets not help each other to death.
     
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    Yeah, fuck dem rugrats.
     
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    Can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em.
     
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    Yeah, too bad you wish to ignore the ones who're already here. Fuck dem rugrats.
     
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    I saw your USMC bulldog on your ID photo. I assume thats where you got your opinion that personal responsibility, tougness, and perseverance found in tough times will lead to ultimate success. I agree 100%. Although never in the military, I played college football for 4 years, and those 4 brutal football camps taught me more about life than anything I learned in a classroom. 5 weeks of hell, 4 times, pushing my body and mind to it's limits. A person learns in very difficult times how to push through, suck it up, and most importantly FIND A WAY within the rules to make it. Never quit. Never give up. And above all else, BELIEVE you will emerge victorious.

    BUT......some people believe we need to eliminate tough times altogether through social justice and a massive welfare system. Along with what football taught me, I was raised by a single mom in a borderline poor household. Lived with mother and grandparents, and aunt, in a 3 bdrm home. We got by with family and hard work. Now, all of us enjoy middle-upper middle class lives.

    But handouts never lead to success. Ever. It must be earned. In the military, in police, in sports, in business, and in life. Leftists have no concept of this ideal.
     
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    what a bullshit rant. right now 50% of Americans drag the other 50% around on our backs. now what happens when the needy outnumber the willing to works?? you sound just as judgemental about people who are actually willing to get up off their asses and work how ever many jobs it takes to make their livings and put food on the table for their families.. too many now just want some "obama money" and you assholes expect us to take care of 1/5 the population of Mexico too.. why do you think a person who goes out and works his azz off 8 to 10 hours a day owes you a damn thing??
     
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    Too bad you have no intellectual ammunition, such that you need to hide behind indigent chiiiilllldrrreeen to try and guilt trip people.

    Like I said...Moral and intellectual cowardice.
     
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    Our "poor" live better than Europes middle class.
    If taken seperate, the African American population of the USA would be among the 5 richest countries on Earth.

    Our "poor" have an obesity problem. Fat. Overfed. Poor?
    They also have cars, color TV, cell phones, washing machines, microwaves, refridgerators. They aren't living in dirt huts like Obama's relative in Africa whom he refuses to help (uncle I believe it is).

    Our problem relating to our "poor" and "irresponsible" isn't an issue of true poverty, or true hunger, or true oppression. It's an issue of ENVY. They don't have much.....compared to middle and upper class AMERICANS. If they had the same wealth in Europe or Africa, or South America, our "poor" would be middle class or upper class.

    So, drop the sympathetic pleas. It has nothing to do with poverty. It has everything to do with outright envy. Disgusting. So, yes, in fact, "Screw you, I got mine, you DON"T HAVE IT THAT BAD, stop bitching and improve your own situation yourself" is my true outlook.
     
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