Kristol: Independent Candidate on the way!

[JimBowie1958]

Kristol is a faggot. He's going to guarantee a Hillary win. PROOF that it was a good thing to kick the RINO establishment to the curb....because they are no different than liberals.

No.

That's Trump guaranteeing a Hillary win, nobody else.

That's because he isn't smart enough to know when to pull back and reach out to others.

He is only interested in feeding his ego.

He's a thin-skinned, narcissistic loser.

I am still working on our bet, and what I am going to have you put in your sig, lol.

CRUZ IS the establishment

I already have picked out what you're going to have in your sig!

Well save it for a surprise, OK? One I wont have to worry about!

 

[Toro]

Bill Kristol has been a conservative his whole adult life.

Birfer Trump has been a conservative only when it has been convenient to him.

And Birfer Trump hasn't figured out that constant personal attacks hurts, not helps, him.

If a third-party conservative runs and Trump loses, that's Trump's fault, and nobody else's.

Krystal has always been a neocon, not a real conservative. He likes making money by exporting jobs and plundering the Middle Class like his vulture capitalist buddy Romney.

Good riddance to them both.

Trump isn't a real conservative.

Anyone who is against free trade isn't a real conservative.

Real conservatives aren't for using state power to effect economic outcomes and using the government to redistribute incomes, which is what tariffs do. That's what unions and liberals want, not conservatives.

Sorry that you're a liberal.

You will happy with your sig after Trump loses, though!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bill Kristol has been a conservative his whole adult life.

Birfer Trump has been a conservative only when it has been convenient to him.

And Birfer Trump hasn't figured out that constant personal attacks hurts, not helps, him.

If a third-party conservative runs and Trump loses, that's Trump's fault, and nobody else's.

Krystal has always been a neocon, not a real conservative. He likes making money by exporting jobs and plundering the Middle Class like his vulture capitalist buddy Romney.

Good riddance to them both.

Speaking of Romney, who could this be, if not him?

He might be willing some more of his money at it.
.

Romney has said he wont run repeatedly, but he is such an arrogant ass I doubt he can refuse an enticing offer.

Perry has been mentioned, but he has endorsed Trump, and Senator Coburn, who I think is also on board with Trump.

Were I Krystal I would be working on getting a person who is well positioned to take aim at frustrated Sanders supporters but who isnt a full blown socialist, someone like Mark Kuban or a Bloomberg type. But that is if he wants to try to get maximum votes. Any conservative knows that a vote for a Krystal loser is a vote for Hillary filling about 4 SCOTUS seats in her term. And I doubt very few of them are gonna do that.

If he could recruit Senator Jim Webb that would be a catastrophe for Trump, but I doubt Krystal can think outside the box that well.

I dont see how this hurts Trump more than Hillary.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Anyone who is against free trade isn't a real conservative.

Trump is in favor of Free Trade, as long as it is also fair trade. Why have punitive measures in these treaties if we will never use them against exploitive nations?

Real conservatives aren't for using state power to effect economic outcomes and using the government to redistribute incomes, which is what tariffs do. That's what unions and liberals want, not conservatives.

Sure conservatives want that and have since 1800. They have no problem with protecting Sears, Walmart, etc, they just dont want to protect Middle Class Americans.

But then those arent really conservatives, they are neocons.

Sorry that you're a liberal.

Lol, yeah, neocons call me a liberal all the time, and liberals call me a conservative. Sounds to me like I'm hitting things just right.

You will happy with your sig after Trump loses, though!

Lol, after Trump wins, I would like you to share it with me anyway, OK?

 

[Vigilante]

• Ben Sasse, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz Not Running as Independent Against Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton
  Breitbart.com ^ | 30 May 2016 | Matthew Boyle
  Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) will absolutely not be an independent candidate for president in November, his team confirmed to Breitbart News on Monday morning. A high-placed source close to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has also confirmed that it will not be him running against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump and likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in November. Another high-placed source, this one close to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), has confirmed that the Texas senator—Trump’s last serious competitor for the GOP nomination—will also not be launching an independent bid for president in November.
  
  Sasse, an outspoken critic of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump from the beginning, has said he will not support Trump in the general election against Clinton.
  
  Sasse is still holding out against Trump, drawing criticism from even his fellow Nebraskan Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)—who told the New York Times his strategy would hand Clinton the election.
  
  “I don’t agree with his strategy,” Fischer said. “I’m not going to hand this election to Hillary Clinton.”
  
  Bush and Trump, meanwhile, tangled roughly during the primary, and he has said he will not support Trump in the general election. Trump repeatedly called Bush “low energy,” and Bush made himself the tip of the spear against Trump for some time. Trump succeeded, while Bush failed, in the primary. Bush dropped out after a dismal performance in South Carolina, but he still refuses to back Trump against Clinton. ...
  
  Sources close to several other potential high-profile independent candidates, such as 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney, have not yet confirmed one way or the other whether they are going to run.

This IDIOT had a 100% WRONG rating in 2008!

 

[whitehall]

The interesting twist to the story if you were paying attention is that Trump is the actual independent candidate and what Kristol is really hoping for is an establishment candidate willing to destroy the republican party.

 

[Vigilante]

Bill Kristol has been a conservative his whole adult life.

Birfer Trump has been a conservative only when it has been convenient to him.

And Birfer Trump hasn't figured out that constant personal attacks hurts, not helps, him.

If a third-party conservative runs and Trump loses, that's Trump's fault, and nobody else's.

Krystal has always been a neocon, not a real conservative. He likes making money by exporting jobs and plundering the Middle Class like his vulture capitalist buddy Romney.

Good riddance to them both.

Trump isn't a real conservative.

Anyone who is against free trade isn't a real conservative.

Real conservatives aren't for using state power to effect economic outcomes and using the government to redistribute incomes, which is what tariffs do. That's what unions and liberals want, not conservatives.

Sorry that you're a liberal.

You will happy with your sig after Trump loses, though!

 

[Tehon]

They are running out of time. Texas' 38 electoral votes are the only ones lost so far to an undeclared candidate.
How late is too late to mount an independent bid for the presidency?

For anyone intending to run to the right of Trump, that is a huge loss.

True, but if Kristol can enlist anyone the objective wouldn't be to win but instead cause trump to lose. Texas wouldn't matter then.

Texas is a lot of electoral votes in the Trump column for a state that doesnt matter.

I am not sure I understand what you are stating.

Kristol and whoever he enlists to his cause can't beat Trump. The only reason to run against Trump would be to derail him in an effort to nominate Hillary. All they need to do is steal votes, not win.

Agreed, but he is doomed to fail.

Scenario 1, Trump vrs Hillary. NeverTrumpers will sit at home, or vote for Hillary, some might hold their nose and vote for Trump for the sake of keeping Hillary out of the White House.

Scenario 2. Krystal's Loser gets on the ballot across the country. NeverTrumpers now can vote for a candidate that they prefer, but would any of the third category who will hold their nose and vote for Trump, will any of them vote third party instead, knowing that they are not helping to keep Hillary out of the White House?.

Does scenario 2 take any significant amount of votes at all from Trump?

The race will be close or at least given the appearance of such, I'm not sure they could pull it off but I wouldn't count them out. Stars have a way of aligning for Neocons.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The race will be close or at least given the appearance of such, I'm not sure they could pull it off but I wouldn't count them out. Stars have a way of aligning for Neocons.

Yeah, it is amazing what money can buy.

But then again, I suspect that Trump can make decent counter-offers too.

 

[JimBowie1958]

[sounds of a choir of angels singing]

 

[B. Kidd]

Kristol wants seconds on pie............

 

[JimBowie1958]

 

[DigitalDrifter]

“Kristol, along with other conservative pundits, long has been working to attract an independent candidate to run in November amid lingering concerns in some wings of the Republican Party about Trump’s conservative credentials.”

The problem is the GOP has too many ‘wings.’

And the concern should be the fact that Trump is a poor candidate, not his ‘conservative credentials.’

the concern should be the fact that Trump is a poor candidate
so is hillary but that wont stop you from helping carry her baggage....right jones?....

Yes. They are both poor.

Trump is poor because he has absolutely no knowledge of how the world works or how Washington works. He's childish and dishonest. He communicates like an imbecile and he has been entirely irresponsible in the use of rhetoric.

Hillary is poor because she's had 30 years of opposition research dropped on her, she doesn't seem like a nice person....and has a high pitched voice when speaking in front of groups. She's also very ambitious....which is somehow a bad thing.

Let's continue the false equivalencies. They are fun.

One thing I'm going to be watching for is to see in debates if Trump tries to get her off her game and get her wound up. When she does, she sounds so shrill she reminds me of the old cliche nagging wife. I have a feeling the Trump team will try to get her going in that direction.

She reminds me of this:

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bill Krystal is a well known negative leading indicator

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Bill Kristol says an Independent Conservative candidate is on the way:

Trump slams 'spoiler' bid after Kristol says independent candidate to run | Fox News

"Just a heads up over this holiday weekend: There will be an independent candidate--an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance."

In response, Trump, of course, refers to Kristol as "dummy".

Should Hillary start measuring the drapes at the White House?
.

Bill Krystal is one of the psychopathic Neo-Conservatives, of course they hate The Donald, their candidate is Hillary, she's shown herself already to be a good Neo-Conservative puppet ie. Syria, Libya, Benghazi and also she's gung-ho to bomb Iran.

Since 2002 the Neo-Conservatives have been aiming to start WWIII, Hillary will give them and the planet WWIII.

There's nothing Conservative about the Neo-Conservatives, they're Marxists if you read about their history and who their Guru was. They aren't loyal to any political party, they have no interest in domestic policy, their obsession is Foreign Policy and they've taken control of both American political parties Foreign Policy.

They just need another puppet, Obama has been a good puppet for them, as has John Kerry and as I commented Hillary is already a willing puppet.

They're insane, they're a danger to all life on this planet.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bill Kristol says an Independent Conservative candidate is on the way:

Trump slams 'spoiler' bid after Kristol says independent candidate to run | Fox News

"Just a heads up over this holiday weekend: There will be an independent candidate--an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance."

In response, Trump, of course, refers to Kristol as "dummy".

Should Hillary start measuring the drapes at the White House?
.

Bill Krystal is one of the psychopathic Neo-Conservatives, of course they hate The Donald, their candidate is Hillary, she's shown herself already to be a good Neo-Conservative puppet ie. Syria, Libya, Benghazi and also she's gung-ho to bomb Iran.

Since 2002 the Neo-Conservatives have been aiming to start WWIII, Hillary will give them and the planet WWIII.

There's nothing Conservative about the Neo-Conservatives, they're Marxists if you read about their history and who their Guru was. They aren't loyal to any political party, they have no interest in domestic policy, their obsession is Foreign Policy and they've taken control of both American political parties Foreign Policy.

They just need another puppet, Obama has been a good puppet for them, as has John Kerry and as I commented Hillary is already a willing puppet.

They're insane, they're a danger to all life on this planet.

Yeah, the neocons think that Pax Americana is our nations new destiny, no matter what anyone else thinks about it.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Bill Kristol says an Independent Conservative candidate is on the way:

Trump slams 'spoiler' bid after Kristol says independent candidate to run | Fox News

"Just a heads up over this holiday weekend: There will be an independent candidate--an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance."

In response, Trump, of course, refers to Kristol as "dummy".

Should Hillary start measuring the drapes at the White House?
.

Bill Krystal is one of the psychopathic Neo-Conservatives, of course they hate The Donald, their candidate is Hillary, she's shown herself already to be a good Neo-Conservative puppet ie. Syria, Libya, Benghazi and also she's gung-ho to bomb Iran.

Since 2002 the Neo-Conservatives have been aiming to start WWIII, Hillary will give them and the planet WWIII.

There's nothing Conservative about the Neo-Conservatives, they're Marxists if you read about their history and who their Guru was. They aren't loyal to any political party, they have no interest in domestic policy, their obsession is Foreign Policy and they've taken control of both American political parties Foreign Policy.

They just need another puppet, Obama has been a good puppet for them, as has John Kerry and as I commented Hillary is already a willing puppet.

They're insane, they're a danger to all life on this planet.

Yeah, the neocons think that Pax Americana is our nations new destiny, no matter what anyone else thinks about it.

Someone should drop the Neo-Conservatives in the middle of ISIL/ISIS/Daesh held territory, they deserve it.

How many young Western troops, male and female have already died and been maimed because of the Neo-Conservative bastards?

They want even more to die and be maimed, they're filthy Vampires, they're not even worthy of being considered human, they're just POS.

The Donald many in this world hope will drive a stake through the ugly Neo-Conservative heart.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ben Sasse, Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz Not Running as Independent Against Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton in November - Breitbart

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) will absolutely not be an independent candidate for president in November, his team confirmed to Breitbart News on Monday morning. A high-placed source close to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has also confirmed that it will not be him running against presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump and likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in November. Another high-placed source, this one close to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), has confirmed that the Texas senator—Trump’s last serious competitor for the GOP nomination—will also not be launching an independent bid for president in November.

Sasse, an outspoken critic of GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump from the beginning, has said he will not support Trump in the general election against Clinton.

Sasse is still holding out against Trump, drawing criticism from even his fellow Nebraskan Sen. Deb Fischer (R-NE)—who told the New York Times his strategy would hand Clinton the election.

“I don’t agree with his strategy,” Fischer said. “I’m not going to hand this election to Hillary Clinton.”

Bush and Trump, meanwhile, tangled roughly during the primary, and he has said he will not support Trump in the general election. Trump repeatedly called Bush “low energy,” and Bush made himself the tip of the spear against Trump for some time. Trump succeeded, while Bush failed, in the primary. Bush dropped out after a dismal performance in South Carolina, but he still refuses to back Trump against Clinton.

“In November, I will not vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton, but I will support principled conservatives at the state and federal levels, just as I have done my entire life,” Bush wrote on Facebook back on May 6. “For Republicans, there is no greater priority than ensuring we keep control of both chambers of Congress. I look forward to working hard for great conservatives in the Senate and House in the coming months.”

The race between Trump and Cruz, meanwhile, was easily one of the most vicious in GOP history, where things got personal between the candidates and their families. But Cruz is definitely not running for president as an independent now, even though he has yet to formally endorse Trump after the bruising primary.

Sources close to several other potential high-profile independent candidates, such as 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney, have not yet confirmed one way or the other whether they are going to run. Several sources from Romney’s 2012 campaign are not exactly sure either way, though they believe Romney will end up not doing it. Some Republican officials are nervous it could be him who the Weekly Standard’s Bill Kristol has drafted as an independent, and the level of quiet from Romney-land at this time is concerning to some. Two of Romney’s current staffers have not answered repeated inquiries from Breitbart News as to whether he will go down this road, and he is about the only person with the name identification necessary to launch an effective independent bid for the presidency.


Oh please, God, Let Mittens run! Clean all the neocons out of the GOP is my prayer!

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

The neocons want Hillary, she is one of them.

Dick Cheney is responsible for bringing the Neo-Conservative Satantic bastards up from the Bottomless Pit.

 

[Desperado]

This election the politicians are showing there true colors and they are not red, white and blue