Keystone pipeline spilling 200k gallons all over Dakota.

200,000 gallons is less than 1/3rd the size of an Olympic size swimming pool.
Well now, if one spills an olympic sized swimming pool all over some acreage in the Dakotas, those acres will be forever grateful. But if you spill that much oil all over the same acreage in the Dakotas, those acres are going to be a long time dead. Prairie plants don't grow so good in oil.
This is CRUDE you dumbass... it is primarily water and other minerals prior to refinement. Roughly 85% of the crude will breakdown inside a year and the rest in 3-5 years. At this point they identified the leak, turned off the flow, started repairing the leak and are collecting the crude by sucking it up in VAC trucks. less than 10,000 gallons is currently on the ground as the ground was near freezing in temp. But don't let real facts get in the way of your lies..

You keep outing yourself as a total liar..
LOL So you are claiming they pump the water and mineral content of the tar sands down those pipelines. God, you just keep making increasingly stupid statements.
You really don't know much about crude oil extraction and pumping...

The Bitumen is almost completely refined into usable petro-products that are harmful if spilled. All that is left is a small percentage of what is known as BSW. Don't know what that actually means, but we always called it bullshit and water. Even the water in the bitumen is contaminated .
 
And rail car spills are worse for the environment and happens more.
So, I dare ask, what was the point in your sarcasm?


A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
 
And rail car spills are worse for the environment and happens more.
So, I dare ask, what was the point in your sarcasm?


A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.

How about 1,5 million gallons?
Lac-Mégantic rail disaster - Wikipedia
 
Here the thing you have to remember about Republicans. They will tell you things will be OK and it's all good. Then when things aren' ok they'll tell you things aren't bad as they could be. Or if it' bad they'll compare it to a worse thing to make it seem like this thing doesn't matter or is insignificant.

So when the pipeline they wanted for years starts to spill just like what everyone told them they'll use one of the above tactics to whistle past the graveyard and ignore it.

Besides...oil comes from under the ground anyway right? See what I did there?
 
A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.

How about 1,5 million gallons?
Lac-Mégantic rail disaster - Wikipedia

Yes. The highest rail car death rate in Canada for 150 years. Hardly what can normally be expected from a tank car spill.
 
everyones favorite pipeline is doing just what everyone feared .

Probably all over some tribes burial site .

Keystone Pipeline leaks 210,000 gallons of oil in South Dakota
Conservatives mocked for years the chances of the pipeline leaking
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everyones favorite pipeline is doing just what everyone feared .

Probably all over some tribes burial site .

Keystone Pipeline leaks 210,000 gallons of oil in South Dakota
Conservatives mocked for years the chances of the pipeline leaking
Mmmmmm, no they didn't, moron. What they said is that a pipeline leak is far less harmful to the environment than a tanker spill or a train derailment.
people like winger find it important to let rich leftists like warren haphazardly transport oil all over the country
 
And rail car spills are worse for the environment and happens more.
So, I dare ask, what was the point in your sarcasm?


A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Yes but the happen more frequently and often catch fire. That's a lot of carbon :eusa_whistle:

exactly

By volume, that’s dramatically less crude than trains spilled in 2013, when major derailments in Alabama and North Dakota leached a record 1.4 million gallons -- more than was lost in the prior 40 years combined. But by frequency of spills, 2014 set a new high with 141 “unintentional releases,” according to data from the federal Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA). By comparison, between 1975 and 2012, U.S. railroads averaged just 25 spills a year.

Oil Train Spills Hit Record Level in 2014
 
And rail car spills are worse for the environment and happens more.
So, I dare ask, what was the point in your sarcasm?


A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...
 
A rail car can't spill 210,000 gallons, and Keystone was touted as the safe against spills.
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...

The line does not transport crude in the first place. It is Bitumen, a tar or asphalt like substance that has to be diluted with petroleum and heated so it will even flow through the pipe. It's not as easy to clean up as you think
 
Generally when rail cars crash it takes out 6-20 cars at 210,000 gallons each.. The pipeline acted like it was supposed to. When the in flow didn't match out flow by 100 gallons and line pressure drops it shuts down. There are pumps, valves, pressure and flow monitors every 25 miles so they can pinpoint the leak point quickly and isolate it. Residual oils in the pipe will leak due to gravity so this spill is miniscule in all aspects as compared to rail car crashes..

Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...

The line does not transport crude in the first place. It is Bitumen, a tar or asphalt like substance that has to be diluted with petroleum and heated so it will even flow through the pipe. It's not as easy to clean up as you think

nice try

--LOL
 
Rail cars hold approximately 30,000 gallons each. I need proof that 6 to 20 rail cars have ever ruptured at the same time.
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...

The line does not transport crude in the first place. It is Bitumen, a tar or asphalt like substance that has to be diluted with petroleum and heated so it will even flow through the pipe. It's not as easy to clean up as you think

nice try

--LOL

You think it is crude oil, and not bitumen?
 
LOL... the total spillage is 30,000 x 6 = 180,000....

Sue Me.... dumb ass..

actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...

The line does not transport crude in the first place. It is Bitumen, a tar or asphalt like substance that has to be diluted with petroleum and heated so it will even flow through the pipe. It's not as easy to clean up as you think

nice try

--LOL

You think it is crude oil, and not bitumen?


if it has to be heated as you stated

it does exactly as the other poster stated when it cools

you are a dumbass
 
--LOL

bitumen

a black viscous mixture of hydrocarbons obtained naturally or as a residue from petroleum distillation. It is used for road surfacing and roofing.

seems rather limiting --LOL
 
actually it would be 7 rail cars. 7 x 30,000= 210,000. Still needing that link to prove any where near that many tank cars have Ever been ruptured at the same time.
Do you have even a remote clue what happens to crude at freezing (32 deg F)? IT JELL'S. This is what has happened with this leak and why they can use VACALL trucks to suck it up easily from the surface to include any contaminated soil.

Your hyper partisan bull shit is noted...

The line does not transport crude in the first place. It is Bitumen, a tar or asphalt like substance that has to be diluted with petroleum and heated so it will even flow through the pipe. It's not as easy to clean up as you think

nice try

--LOL

You think it is crude oil, and not bitumen?


if it has to be heated as you stated

it does exactly as the other poster stated when it cools

you are a dumbass

It takes 3 to 4 days before the mixture starts to separate. Can't tell it from normal crude by looking at that stage.
 
He is holding off on that until further research.
Only thing I am pissy about with Trump is his newest ruling of allowing elephant heads/parts, his sickening sons that like to hunt animals for "fun" and his disregard to the environment. Which is quite a bit, to be honest about it.:cranky:
 
Notice that was labeled an opinion piece?
Goddamned liar. The damage from spills will be there hundreds of years from now. We learned that in Alaska
Have you been there? Have you ever gone to Prince William Sound? I have and it's as pristine today as it's ever been...fishing takes are at an all time high.
You fools sit in front of your PC's Googleing fake news stories freaking yourselves out. The oceans have an amazing way of cleaning up oil, if it didn't the shorelines of the world would be black with natural oil seepage...put the hash pipe down Old Balls and get on a ship and travel.
You are a fucking liar. May God damn your soul.

Opinion: After 25 years, Exxon Valdez oil spill hasn't ended - CNN

Twenty-five years ago on March 24, the oil tanker Exxon Valdez slammed into Bligh Reef and spilled more than 11 million gallons of crude oil into the cold, clear waters of Alaska's Prince William Sound -- one of the "last best places" on Earth. The oil charged through Prince William Sound and out into the Gulf of Alaska, damaging more than 1,300 miles of some of the most remote, wild shoreline in this country.
This happened 25 years ago, so we might note the anniversary as we do any other historical event. That, however, would imply that the oil spill is over. It's not, and likely never will be.
The sound's coastal ecosystem is permanently damaged. Thousands of gallons of Exxon Valdez oil still pollute the beaches; this oil is still toxic and still hurting the ecosystem near the shore.
The government considers, as of 2010, only 13 of the 32 monitored wildlife populations, habitats and resource services that were injured in the spill as fully "recovered" or "very likely recovered." Some are still listed today as "not recovering." This includes a pod of orcas, which lost 15 of its 22 members after the spill, and has not produced a calf since. Given only one older female is left, scientists appear certain that this unique pod of orcas will go extinct -- it's just a matter of time. The government conclusion is that "there appears to be no hope for recovery."

The "not recovering" list also includes Pacific herring, one of the sound's keystone species. Once the source of a vibrant commercial fishery, herring declined so precipitously that a fishery closed, and has not reopened.
Eight inches long, herring once swam in schools of a million or more, a sudden flash of their silver undersides confusing predators. In April, their spawning turned the bays and lagoons milky white. More than 40 species -- bald eagles, brown bears, seals, humpback whales, tufted puffins, murres -- depend on these small fish.
 

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