Ken Burns Roosevelt Documentary

1. I haven't seen the film....but would like to remind that there were Democrats, who were still loyal to the Constitution...you know...prior to the current iteration of the Democrat Party, who vehemently objected to Roosevelt's power grab.

But, sadly, Roosevelt's threat worked, the Supreme Court bowed and succumbed to Roosevelt's whip.

2. To see the abject cowardice of the Justices, note that in invalidating the Guffey-Vinson Coal Act on May 18, 1936, less than a year before Roosevelt attempted to pack the court, Justice Charles Evans Hughes said that federal laws restricting local labor relations provisions were unconstitutional, that "the relations of employer and employee is a local relation" and "the evils are all local evils over which the federal government has no legislative control."

He went on to say "Otherwise in view of the multitude of indirect effects Congress in its discretion could assume control of virtually all of the activities of the people to the subversion of the fundamental principles of the Constitution." And..."...it is not for the court to amend the Constitution by judicial decision."


Atta boy, Hughes!!!

The US Constitution is inviolable!!!

Sort of......




3. Proof of Roosevelt's total control of another branch of government came just eleven months later: the very same Chief Justice Hughes, spoke for the majority in finding the Wagner Labor Relations Act constitutional.
Yes, he said...Congress could regulate labor relations in manufacturing plants.


Roosevelt destroyed the independence of the Supreme Court.



And so we became an America without checks and balances.

That is the legacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
In the first, you talk about "restricting provisions" and in the second one, you talk about "regulating relations".

There is no description of the actual details, so I have no idea if they conflict.

Just more vague cut-n-pasting.
 
The concern was that things like bridges, refineries and factories could be destroyed by sabotage...

No Japanese American was ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage throughout the war. You fail again.

Fortunately they were placed in protective custody and held at detention facilities....


No, they were deprived of their constitutional rights and thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps. Are you a US citizen? Are you up for the same treatment? You know, "for your own good." :rolleyes:
The Japanese-Americans spent a lot of time, and blood erasing the prejudice that had been directed at them in the prewar and war periods. I hope some simple whiners are not going to destroy any of those good feelings that the 442nd and others earned the hard way in erasing that prejudice. The country has apologized and admitted it was wrong, and most recognize that there were many wrongs committed in that period, and this is but one.



Just the opposite.....it is the humanity, or lack of, of Franklin Roosevelt that is in question.

. From "FDR Goes To War," Folsom and Folsom
FDR’s abuse of civil rights: wiretapping for security was expanded to tap Republicans…and his wife, Eleanor!

The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.
Of course it was largely political, many Californians wanted them out of agriculture and out of the state. The Daughters of the Golden West. and other organizations put pressure on Warren to lock em up. The San Francisco Chronicle warned of the Yellow Peril in headlines, and politicians knew there were votes there. Teddy Roosevelt had made a deal with Japan to restrict Japanese passports to America. The period is filled with those political moves.
When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we are at war, what an opportunity for evil politics, our safety was at stake. FDR was political too.
But, glory be, most or much of that prejudice was wiped out by the 442nd. No whining, and doing probably the best possible act to reduce that long period of prejudice, fight for the United States. One battalion and one regiment and lots of casualties and bingo.
 
I've been to Warm Springs, and who but the worst cynic wouldn't admire or even love President Roosevelt? He was a great icon in American history. Whatever happened to men like him, Truman, and Kennedy? That was the Democratic Party of old. Today we get America-hating shitbags like Clinton and Obama. We get Marxists who want to destroy America. Roosevelt must be spinning in his grave.

Ever heard of the "Court Packing Scheme"?

No? Neither have the people who made the documentary. Neither has any child in our public schools.

There is a method to the madness.....
But it worked. Before the bill came to a vote in Congress, two Supreme Court justices came over to the liberal side and by a majority upheld as constitutional the National Labor Relations Act and the Social Security Act.
SCOTUS Justices aren't allowed to change their mind when confronted with new information, when it favors a Democrat.
 
"Hagel"???????????


I just know that there are Democrats/Liberals slapping their palms on their foreheads, knowing that an embarrassment like you is in their camp!


Great!


Don't ever change.

In other words: You have no idea what Hegelian dialect is.



"Hagel"???????????


You imbecile.

Haven't you had enough time to do some half ass research on Wikipedia or Google yet. Or do you need to consult a blog?



Dismissed, dope.

No, school is still in session because you haven't learned anything yet.

I love the way you presume to feel qualified to school people on various subjects when your posting history demonstrates you're nothing but an ignorant baboon.
 
I watched episode #2 last night...didn't know TR got the Panama Canal built....I guess it never occurred to me.....I know who gave it away and that it's now being run by the fucking CHINESE....that would be Mr.Peanut.....now the second worst president in our history. :doubt:
Why do Right-Wingers hate democracy?

It's Panamanian land. Panamanian labor built it, for the most part.

And France started building it in 1881. The U.S. didn't take over the construction until 1904.

You're right about the Chinese taking over, but that's Panama's fault for allowing it to happen. When I was last there, in 1993, I was amazed at how many Chinese people were there, and they all hang out in the casinos, smoking cigarettes one after another.


Cool pic of the Missouri barely squeezing through:

Missouri_panama_canal.jpg
 
I said no Japanese-American was ever convicted, you idiot. And by your failed logic ALL Americans of German and Italian ancestry should have been thrown into FDR concentration camps, because they actually committed acts of treason, sabotage, and espionage.

You're an un-American moron.
Germans and Italians aren't inscrutable.
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The concern was that things like bridges, refineries and factories could be destroyed by sabotage...

No Japanese American was ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage throughout the war. You fail again.

Fortunately they were placed in protective custody and held at detention facilities so they never got the chance.
The interment of Japanese-Americans and Roosevelt's failure to support the anti-lynching bills were big compromises in principal. I can understand his failure to support the anti-lynching bills. Had he spoke out in favor of it, he would not have got a single bill through Congress because southern democrats controlled all the important committees. However, Roosevelt followed the advice of advisers who were wrong about Japanese-Americans. He got most things right, but this wasn't one of them. Protection of Japanese-Americans was an after the fact justification.
 
I've been to Warm Springs, and who but the worst cynic wouldn't admire or even love President Roosevelt? He was a great icon in American history. Whatever happened to men like him, Truman, and Kennedy? That was the Democratic Party of old. Today we get America-hating shitbags like Clinton and Obama. We get Marxists who want to destroy America. Roosevelt must be spinning in his grave.
Roosevelt was greatly hated by the Right Wing and Republicans when he was President.

They hate everything Democratic. If Jesus were to become the next Democratic President, they would hate on Him too.
 
Get out and travel a bit all you FDR detractors. His public works projects built thousands of beautiful post offices, court houses, and thousands of beautiful campgrounds for which I will ever be grateful. He put millions of people to work, including painters, writers, and poets. And look at the quality of what all those people produced. For his day, FDR probably pumped more American dollars back into America than any other president. His legacy is secure. He was a great president who loved this country. He didn't poison the wells like latter day democrat presidents. There was nothing hateful about the man.

He was the worst scumbag to ever soil the office of President of the United States of America, and one of the greatest threats to our Republic.


The fact that you will never accomplish the tiniest fraction of what he has shouldn't make you so bitter. Trying to denigrate someone who was more successful than you could ever dream of being won't change your personal shortcomings. Just accept yourself for who you are instead of lashing out at your betters in impotent rage like this. Sure, he will be a part of American history for centuries while you will be forgotten almost before the body gets cold, but that doesn't mean that your existence wasn't without purpose. Stop setting yourself up for failure like this.
 
You imbecile....that was some one else's post.


Foot in your mouth again, huh?
It's not from one of your links?




I've already exposed how 'galactically stupid' you are....and now you've added 'totally dishonest' to your resume.

I did not write what you claimed I did.

The proper response would have been an apology, and a correction.
Who taught you manners?
again: is it from one of your links?

You have difficulty answering direct questions. Every time I ask you one and you tap dance instead, it's just more proof that I'm winning the argument.



Did I write what you claimed I wrote....or did someone else?

Answer the question.
Did you post it, as corroboration for the argument you are making?

And you've got a lot of nerve asking anyone to answer a question while ignoring mine for the past 200 posts.

Here it is for the 6th time:


Which countries did NOT recognize Stalin as the leader of the USSR?



"Did you post it, as corroboration for the argument you are making?"

Of course I did not.


I answered that with a question the first time you asked it.


Now correct your post where you claimed I said it.
 
The legacy of FDR was and is one of hope....

Oh yeah, the US CITIZENS in his concentration camps must have been brimming with "hope."
Safety first.




It wasn't about 'safety'....or you'd be suggesting concentration camps for all the Muslims in the nation.

FDR did it as the request of Earl Warren....his white farmers were jealous of the success of the Japanese, and he used it as a political tool to get those votes.



So....when are you gonna correct the lie where you posted someone else's words and said they were mine?

Soon?
 
No Japanese American was ever convicted of treason, espionage, or sabotage throughout the war. You fail again.

Fortunately they were placed in protective custody and held at detention facilities....


No, they were deprived of their constitutional rights and thrown into that scumbag FDR's concentration camps. Are you a US citizen? Are you up for the same treatment? You know, "for your own good." :rolleyes:
The Japanese-Americans spent a lot of time, and blood erasing the prejudice that had been directed at them in the prewar and war periods. I hope some simple whiners are not going to destroy any of those good feelings that the 442nd and others earned the hard way in erasing that prejudice. The country has apologized and admitted it was wrong, and most recognize that there were many wrongs committed in that period, and this is but one.



Just the opposite.....it is the humanity, or lack of, of Franklin Roosevelt that is in question.

. From "FDR Goes To War," Folsom and Folsom
FDR’s abuse of civil rights: wiretapping for security was expanded to tap Republicans…and his wife, Eleanor!

The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.
Of course it was largely political, many Californians wanted them out of agriculture and out of the state. The Daughters of the Golden West. and other organizations put pressure on Warren to lock em up. The San Francisco Chronicle warned of the Yellow Peril in headlines, and politicians knew there were votes there. Teddy Roosevelt had made a deal with Japan to restrict Japanese passports to America. The period is filled with those political moves.
When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and we are at war, what an opportunity for evil politics, our safety was at stake. FDR was political too.
But, glory be, most or much of that prejudice was wiped out by the 442nd. No whining, and doing probably the best possible act to reduce that long period of prejudice, fight for the United States. One battalion and one regiment and lots of casualties and bingo.



"Of course it was largely political..."


No problem with that?


Would you suggest that Obama do the same to the Muslim Americans for the same reason?
 
Stalin refused to allow FDR to communicate with him.
If you wonder why you aren't taken seriously, it's sentences like that.



Where it not for ignorance, you'd be agreeing with me.
The series I concluded was wonderful in so many ways, in traditional Ken Burns style but according to this scholar, much was left out, that would have painted a different historical picture:

Authored by: Harvey J. Kaye is Professor of Democracy and Justice Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay.

Ken Burns’s ‘Roosevelts’ Fine But Flawed

Arguably America’s most influential historian, Burns fashions a fascinating documentary from the lives of Teddy, Franklin, and Eleanor. But his story has grave gaps.

Ken Burns s Roosevelts Fine But Flawed - The Daily Beast
 
If you watched the series and noticed the absorbing way the writer, Geoffrey C. Ward, became emotional when mentioning first of FDR's affliction of polio at 39, there is a sound reason.

As this recent NYTimes piece notes, Ward has a special connection to FDR — Ward suffered from polio as a child and still wears braces as a result — that perhaps gave him a special affinity or empathy with the president.

The lead writer of the series is the redoubtable Geoffrey C. Ward, who is probably one of the most successful, most familiar, and least known American historians of recent decades. Ward, who apparently has never had an academic appointment in a university history department, has a real knack for writing history in a way that lots of people appreciate. A graduate of Oberlin and former editor of American Heritage, Ward has an impressive track record: 18 books (including a 1989 biography of FDR, A First-Class Temperament), a National Book Critics Circle Award, the Parkman Prize for history, seven Emmys, a bunch of other prizes and the “Friend of History Award” from the Organization of American Historians

PBS Geoffrey C. Ward Prof Chris Daly s Blog
 

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