Just Another Big Fat Lie From The Media

[Toro]

According to Einstein, Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results.

Yeah, Trump and his lying, cheating grifters keep filing the same retarded cases in courts, and they keep getting thrown out.

Yet here are Trump's base expecting something different

lol

 

[Concerned American]

Yes, I'm sure your leftist comrades have big plans to imprison Trump and all those that supported him.

Leftists have NO PROBLEM with a police-state, as long as they're the ones running it.

Listen you dumb rube cultist, your Orange God is attempting to turn this country into a third-world tin-pot dictatorship with his attempt to overthrow a free and fair election.

So I hope your Orange God goes to prison for a long, long time.

Triggered much? Your voter fraud for pedo Joe turned this into a third world country. You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Hidin' Biden and Kameltoe strip the shelves of stores of more than just TP. Have you signed up for your mandarin class yet?

 

[Toro]

Triggered much? Your voter fraud for pedo Joe turned this into a third world country. You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Hidin' Biden and Kameltoe strip the shelves of stores of more than just TP. Have you signed up for your mandarin class yet?

Thanks for that QAnon post, uneducated rube

lol

 

[BreezeWood]

A different perspective on Trump’s phone call with Georgia SOS Brad Raffensperger

As you all have surely heard by now, President Trump had a phone conversation with Georgia Secretary of State Saturday Brad Raffensperger that has been leaked to the media. The phone call is being …

therightscoop.com

Yep.....the media first tells us what we will hear.....setting it up to sound like something other than what it is.
Classic journalist malpractice.
Creating a story that doesn't exist.
People used to get their balls sued off over this....and editors would get fired over airing a phony story. \
Now every story is a pack of lies.

The point being is Trump had sued the State of Georgia over their handling of the election....and he was discussing terms for a settlement outside of court. He told the Secretary that all he had to do was stop doing what he was doing.....preventing a thorough investigation into voter fraud in the election.

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Now every story is a pack of lies.

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good luck the next 4 years ... the difference being your lies will only have your fellow pugs for an audience.

 

[Concerned American]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

popular vote doesn’t mean they are popular? Ok.
His approval rating was higher than Obama’s at the same time during their presidencies.
And that is despite the media trashing him 24/7 and praising Obama for anythjng and everything.
And yes, you typically fire employees who don’t do as you tell them to, or who perform in a way you are not satisfied with. You are aware that’s how it works, are you not?

Comparing the popular votes to previous elections is pointless as our nation's population grows.

trump's approval rating was a dismal 41% for four years.

trump counts loyalty over job performance. He fires people who don't kiss the ring of the autocrat.


See the light man. Go towards the light...

According to Einstein, Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results. You guys just don't get enough of those polls. You would think you'd learn after your 2016 disappointment.

Einstein never said that about insanity.

But if he did make a statement about insanity it would be in the same sentence as trump sycophants.

Please keep up. The point was that you just keep believing those polls. Only a moron like you would disregard the point of a post to point out a misquote. Run along now you insignificant waste of air.

 

[Concerned American]

Triggered much? Your voter fraud for pedo Joe turned this into a third world country. You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until Hidin' Biden and Kameltoe strip the shelves of stores of more than just TP. Have you signed up for your mandarin class yet?

Thanks for that QAnon post, uneducated rube

lol

I am uneducated and the only way you debate is with irrelevant insignificant posts. HaHaHaHaHa!

 

[otto105]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

popular vote doesn’t mean they are popular? Ok.
His approval rating was higher than Obama’s at the same time during their presidencies.
And that is despite the media trashing him 24/7 and praising Obama for anythjng and everything.
And yes, you typically fire employees who don’t do as you tell them to, or who perform in a way you are not satisfied with. You are aware that’s how it works, are you not?

Comparing the popular votes to previous elections is pointless as our nation's population grows.

trump's approval rating was a dismal 41% for four years.

trump counts loyalty over job performance. He fires people who don't kiss the ring of the autocrat.


See the light man. Go towards the light...

According to Einstein, Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results. You guys just don't get enough of those polls. You would think you'd learn after your 2016 disappointment.

Einstein never said that about insanity.

But if he did make a statement about insanity it would be in the same sentence as trump sycophants.

Please keep up. The point was that you just keep believing those polls. Only a moron like you would disregard the point of a post to point out a misquote. Run along now you insignificant waste of air.

You had a point? Where in the pile of grievance posts can I find it?

 

[Concerned American]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

popular vote doesn’t mean they are popular? Ok.
His approval rating was higher than Obama’s at the same time during their presidencies.
And that is despite the media trashing him 24/7 and praising Obama for anythjng and everything.
And yes, you typically fire employees who don’t do as you tell them to, or who perform in a way you are not satisfied with. You are aware that’s how it works, are you not?

Comparing the popular votes to previous elections is pointless as our nation's population grows.

trump's approval rating was a dismal 41% for four years.

trump counts loyalty over job performance. He fires people who don't kiss the ring of the autocrat.


See the light man. Go towards the light...

According to Einstein, Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results. You guys just don't get enough of those polls. You would think you'd learn after your 2016 disappointment.

Einstein never said that about insanity.

But if he did make a statement about insanity it would be in the same sentence as trump sycophants.

Please keep up. The point was that you just keep believing those polls. Only a moron like you would disregard the point of a post to point out a misquote. Run along now you insignificant waste of air.

You had a point? Where in the pile of grievance posts can I find it?

No time for you moron. Fifty-seven years and you act like your 7. Typical democrat.

 

[otto105]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

popular vote doesn’t mean they are popular? Ok.
His approval rating was higher than Obama’s at the same time during their presidencies.
And that is despite the media trashing him 24/7 and praising Obama for anythjng and everything.
And yes, you typically fire employees who don’t do as you tell them to, or who perform in a way you are not satisfied with. You are aware that’s how it works, are you not?

Comparing the popular votes to previous elections is pointless as our nation's population grows.

trump's approval rating was a dismal 41% for four years.

trump counts loyalty over job performance. He fires people who don't kiss the ring of the autocrat.


See the light man. Go towards the light...

According to Einstein, Insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly expecting different results. You guys just don't get enough of those polls. You would think you'd learn after your 2016 disappointment.

Einstein never said that about insanity.

But if he did make a statement about insanity it would be in the same sentence as trump sycophants.

Please keep up. The point was that you just keep believing those polls. Only a moron like you would disregard the point of a post to point out a misquote. Run along now you insignificant waste of air.

You had a point? Where in the pile of grievance posts can I find it?

No time for you moron. Fifty-seven years and you act like your 7. Typical democrat.

Run little manchild.

This discussion needs facts and you don't have them.

 

[mudwhistle]

You live in a fantasy world that you cannot escape.

And you live to suck Biden's cock 24/7.

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

And you love the taste of Obama's salty balls.

 

[otto105]

You live in a fantasy world that you cannot escape.

And you live to suck Biden's cock 24/7.

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

And you love the taste of Obama's salty balls.

Why do conservative always talk about sucking on balls?

 

[mudwhistle]

Journalists in the MSM can make anything a person says sound like they're saying something totally different if they remove the context.
An hour long phone conversation was condensed down to two 5 second soundbites.....and taken out of context they then tell us what the president is discussing with the Georgia Secretary of State.

Trump had been trying for days to get in touch with this guy....and when he finally allowed his call to get thru the sneaky bastard (Raffensperger) set him up. Recording the conversation....and then turned it immediately over to journalists so they could make Trump sound guilty of some sort of crime.

But Trump never said anything about manufacturing fake votes. He said "Find Votes"....which isn't illegal....even tho the journalists at Fox News claimed it sounds bad.

But to clear everything up....here's exactly what Trump said. You decide:

The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely &mda...

www.americanthinker.com

January 4, 2021
The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

By Andrea Widburg


The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely — showed Trump begging Raffensperger to fraudulently find enough votes for Trump to win. In fact, Trump called Raffensperger to get him to stop obstructing the fraud investigation. As Trump explained during the call, evidence proves Trump won Georgia by a massive margin, only to have victory stolen through equally massive fraud. Trump sought to avoid litigation forcing Raffensperger to do his job, which is to make at least a minimal effort to clear away enough fraud to allow Trump his actual and honest victory in Georgia.

First, Trump wasn't the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys. There isn't the slightest chance that they would have allowed Trump to beg Raffensperger for illegal votes or to threaten him.​

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Second, contrary to what the media implied, Trump was not operating off the premise that he lost Georgia. If that had been the case, it would indeed have been wrong for Trump to beg for Raffensperger to "find" votes for him.​

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Instead, Trump was operating from the assertion that he won Georgia. He opened the call with a strong recitation of the facts showing massive fraud on Raffensperger's watch. According to Trump's evidence, he didn't lose by 11,780 votes; he won by well over 300,000 votes, including votes for Trump that disappeared and illegal votes for Biden. Here are some of Trump's statements in that regard:​

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"I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia."​

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"We have ... anywhere from 250–300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls."​

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"We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures. ..."​

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Trump alluded to the faked water main break that allowed Fulton County election workers to count votes for hours after having sent observers home. He noted that the video of that after-hours voting indicated that at "the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden."​

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Trump pointed to 4,925 illegal out-of-state voters, 2,326 absentee ballots from vacant addresses, 5,000 dead people voting, and improperly handled drop boxes. And he brought up the allegations that Georgia is shredding evidence as fast as it can.​

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The bottom line, as Trump accurately said, is that these infractions were "many, many times the 11,779 margin [sic] that they said we lost by."​

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Trump hammered over and over that he won the state. No matter how you look at it, he said he won, and he's got the evidence to prove it.​

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At this point, Mark Meadows stated what Trump's team wanted — and it wasn't to fake votes for Trump. It was, instead, an honest investigation: "What I'm hopeful for is there some way that we can ... find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully." Thus, Meadows sought an agreement "that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious."​

Raffensperger pushed back, saying he'd already had to deal with lawsuits (ignoring that the courts refused to hear evidence). He also huffed that "we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election."​

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Did you get that? The biggest election fraud claim in American history, the president on the phone, massive amounts of evidence, and Raffensperger whines that he's already given up six and a half hours of his time to the issue.​

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Trump again chimes in to say, "We won the state." In response to Raffensperger's complaint that he sacrificed six and a half hours to the matter, Trump suggests that Raffensperger does not need to invest massive time in investigating all 300,000-plus problematic votes. He just needs to investigate 11,779 to give Trump his rightful victory. For, as Trump says, "Because, what's the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes? I think I probably did win it by half a million."​

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When Raffensberger pushes back again, saying his office disproved the cemetery vote contention, Cleta Mitchell, a Trump attorney, makes an important point: Georgia has been withholding records from the White House.​

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Since voting was over two months ago where was the GA Sec. of State supposed to find them?

Just say you recalculated....Hey I need 11,000 votes, Give me a break man....

Find them by doing an honest audit of course.

You don't want an honest count. You want a bias count which has trump the winner.

Try a facts, not bias falsehoods.

I'm pretty confident that if they were to do what they were supposed to in the first place....Trump would have beaten the shit out of Biden. It was turning out to be a landslide....for Trump.....and they set up before hand to make sure that Biden won the states he needed to get 270 electoral votes.

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That isn't proof of massive voter fraud.

It's a pathetic attempt to cast doubt on Biden's win.

Actually it's common-sense.
How can Biden be so unpopular and lose is so many counties, yet somehow he got 200,000 more votes than voters in PA?
How can Biden, the demented mind-numb pervert, get more votes than even Obama got?
He had to get more votes than Obama. If he got the same number of votes as Obama he would have lost by over 6 million votes to Trump.
How do you think they generated all of these fake votes, by appealing to the American People?
I saw no evidence of that.
He won the nomination by stealing it.
He screwed Bernie out of it just like Hillary did.
How is it possible that he got 16 million more votes than Hillary?

 

[mudwhistle]

You live in a fantasy world that you cannot escape.

And you live to suck Biden's cock 24/7.

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

And you love the taste of Obama's salty balls.

Why do conservative always talk about sucking on balls?

Why do faggots like you always talk about nailing people in the keester?

 

[mudwhistle]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

You assholes have been bragging since 2000 that the popular vote means more that the electoral college.
But Trump's approvals were higher than Obamas approvals when he was re-elected.

 

[otto105]

Journalists in the MSM can make anything a person says sound like they're saying something totally different if they remove the context.
An hour long phone conversation was condensed down to two 5 second soundbites.....and taken out of context they then tell us what the president is discussing with the Georgia Secretary of State.

Trump had been trying for days to get in touch with this guy....and when he finally allowed his call to get thru the sneaky bastard (Raffensperger) set him up. Recording the conversation....and then turned it immediately over to journalists so they could make Trump sound guilty of some sort of crime.

But Trump never said anything about manufacturing fake votes. He said "Find Votes"....which isn't illegal....even tho the journalists at Fox News claimed it sounds bad.

But to clear everything up....here's exactly what Trump said. You decide:

The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely &mda...

www.americanthinker.com

January 4, 2021
The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

By Andrea Widburg


The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely — showed Trump begging Raffensperger to fraudulently find enough votes for Trump to win. In fact, Trump called Raffensperger to get him to stop obstructing the fraud investigation. As Trump explained during the call, evidence proves Trump won Georgia by a massive margin, only to have victory stolen through equally massive fraud. Trump sought to avoid litigation forcing Raffensperger to do his job, which is to make at least a minimal effort to clear away enough fraud to allow Trump his actual and honest victory in Georgia.

First, Trump wasn't the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys. There isn't the slightest chance that they would have allowed Trump to beg Raffensperger for illegal votes or to threaten him.​

​

​

Second, contrary to what the media implied, Trump was not operating off the premise that he lost Georgia. If that had been the case, it would indeed have been wrong for Trump to beg for Raffensperger to "find" votes for him.​

​

​

Instead, Trump was operating from the assertion that he won Georgia. He opened the call with a strong recitation of the facts showing massive fraud on Raffensperger's watch. According to Trump's evidence, he didn't lose by 11,780 votes; he won by well over 300,000 votes, including votes for Trump that disappeared and illegal votes for Biden. Here are some of Trump's statements in that regard:​

​

​

"I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia."​

​

​

"We have ... anywhere from 250–300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls."​

​

​

"We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures. ..."​

​

​

​

​

Trump alluded to the faked water main break that allowed Fulton County election workers to count votes for hours after having sent observers home. He noted that the video of that after-hours voting indicated that at "the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden."​

​

​

Trump pointed to 4,925 illegal out-of-state voters, 2,326 absentee ballots from vacant addresses, 5,000 dead people voting, and improperly handled drop boxes. And he brought up the allegations that Georgia is shredding evidence as fast as it can.​

​

​

The bottom line, as Trump accurately said, is that these infractions were "many, many times the 11,779 margin [sic] that they said we lost by."​

​

​

Trump hammered over and over that he won the state. No matter how you look at it, he said he won, and he's got the evidence to prove it.​

​

​

At this point, Mark Meadows stated what Trump's team wanted — and it wasn't to fake votes for Trump. It was, instead, an honest investigation: "What I'm hopeful for is there some way that we can ... find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully." Thus, Meadows sought an agreement "that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious."​

Raffensperger pushed back, saying he'd already had to deal with lawsuits (ignoring that the courts refused to hear evidence). He also huffed that "we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election."​

​

​

Did you get that? The biggest election fraud claim in American history, the president on the phone, massive amounts of evidence, and Raffensperger whines that he's already given up six and a half hours of his time to the issue.​

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Trump again chimes in to say, "We won the state." In response to Raffensperger's complaint that he sacrificed six and a half hours to the matter, Trump suggests that Raffensperger does not need to invest massive time in investigating all 300,000-plus problematic votes. He just needs to investigate 11,779 to give Trump his rightful victory. For, as Trump says, "Because, what's the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes? I think I probably did win it by half a million."​

​

​

When Raffensberger pushes back again, saying his office disproved the cemetery vote contention, Cleta Mitchell, a Trump attorney, makes an important point: Georgia has been withholding records from the White House.​

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Since voting was over two months ago where was the GA Sec. of State supposed to find them?

Just say you recalculated....Hey I need 11,000 votes, Give me a break man....

Find them by doing an honest audit of course.

You don't want an honest count. You want a bias count which has trump the winner.

Try a facts, not bias falsehoods.

I'm pretty confident that if they were to do what they were supposed to in the first place....Trump would have beaten the shit out of Biden. It was turning out to be a landslide....for Trump.....and they set up before hand to make sure that Biden won the states he needed to get 270 electoral votes.

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That isn't proof of massive voter fraud.

It's a pathetic attempt to cast doubt on Biden's win.

Actually it's common-sense.
How can Biden be so unpopular and lose is so many counties, yet somehow he got 200,000 more votes than voters in PA?
How can Biden, the demented mind-numb pervert, get more votes than even Obama got?
He had to get more votes than Obama. If he got the same number of votes as Obama he would have lost by over 6 million votes to Trump.
How do you think they generated all of these fake votes, by appealing to the American People?
I saw no evidence of that.
He won the nomination by stealing it.
He screwed Bernie out of it just like Hillary did.
How is it possible that he got 16 million more votes than Hillary?

By having more people vote for him.

It's quite simple.

 

[otto105]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

You assholes have been bragging since 2000 that the popular vote means more that the electoral college.
But Trump's approvals were higher than Obamas approvals when he was re-elected.

Show your proof.

Because you have a 2-term president winning reelection and the other still whining about losing.

 

[mudwhistle]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

You assholes have been bragging since 2000 that the popular vote means more that the electoral college.
But Trump's approvals were higher than Obamas approvals when he was re-elected.

Show your proof.

Because you have a 2-term president winning reelection and the other still whining about losing.

I'm not so sure Obama really won reelection.
I think it's possible he lost and they stole the election and Romney refused to fight back.
It was a very close election so the theft wasn't so drastic....but I think they lost and they changed the vote totals in several states to help him win.
I was surprised when he won. It was a very dark day in America. It showed during the inaugural ball.
After all....Obama came up with Obamacare.
Half of America will never forgive him for that.

 

[otto105]

Nah..because you have Trump nailing you in the ass, you think everyone bends over like yourself.

Perhaps with a little luck America will become the one-party, police-state, that you so desperately crave. We're certainly going in that direction.

Believing in trump is believing in an Autocratic society.

I choose Democracy and reject the falsehoods you prop up.

I’m pretty sure it was you I’ve asked before and never got an answer, but in case it was t you....
Please explain how Trump is autocratic.
Please show us some instances of trump over stepping his legal authority. Show us instances of him abusing executive
Power.
Even when he was urged to do so, he didn’t.
Trump was one of the most self restrained presidents in a long, long time. You may not like him, but that doesn’t mean you can just pull the “dronald drumpff is a dictator” BS.

Autocratic describes a way of ruling, but not in a nice way. An autocratic leader is one who rules with an iron fist; in other words — someone with the behavior of a dictator. Autocratic rulers don't tend to be popular. They use fear and control to gain total power over their people.

trump isn't popular.

trump uses fear and retaliation to get what he wants. trump sycophancy proves this.

trump also with current election bullshit wants to disregard actual votes and have himself declared winner.

Considering Trump got the second most votes ever (assuming you believe Biden got the most), I’d say he was very popular.
His approval rating was also higher than Obama’s.
Please show us how he has retaliated against people or other officials, and no “saying something mean” doesn’t count.

Popular vote totals don't mean that he is popular. His approval ratings were for 4 years low.

Higher than Obama's? Bah Ha HA HA HA HA...

Fired anyone to told him no or crossed him. How many chief of staff people did he go thru to get his current sycophant...

You assholes have been bragging since 2000 that the popular vote means more that the electoral college.
But Trump's approvals were higher than Obamas approvals when he was re-elected.

Show your proof.

Because you have a 2-term president winning reelection and the other still whining about losing.

I'm not so sure Obama really won reelection.
I think it's possible he lost and they stole the election and Romney refused to fight back.
It was a very close election so the theft wasn't so drastic....but I think they lost and they changed the vote totals in several states to help him win.
I was surprised when he won. It was a very dark day in America. It showed during the inaugural ball.
After all....Obama came up with Obamacare.
Half of America will never forgive him for that.

You need to use your adult skills and deal with the reality that trump lost.

 

[Thoth001]

Journalists in the MSM can make anything a person says sound like they're saying something totally different if they remove the context.
An hour long phone conversation was condensed down to two 5 second soundbites.....and taken out of context they then tell us what the president is discussing with the Georgia Secretary of State.

Trump had been trying for days to get in touch with this guy....and when he finally allowed his call to get thru the sneaky bastard (Raffensperger) set him up. Recording the conversation....and then turned it immediately over to journalists so they could make Trump sound guilty of some sort of crime.

But Trump never said anything about manufacturing fake votes. He said "Find Votes"....which isn't illegal....even tho the journalists at Fox News claimed it sounds bad.

But to clear everything up....here's exactly what Trump said. You decide:

The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely &mda...

www.americanthinker.com

January 4, 2021
The media are lying about Trump's phone call with Raffensperger

By Andrea Widburg


The mainstream media and Georgia's secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, are utterly disgraceful, dishonest, and manipulative people. Raffensperger released a private phone call that the media immediately claimed — falsely — showed Trump begging Raffensperger to fraudulently find enough votes for Trump to win. In fact, Trump called Raffensperger to get him to stop obstructing the fraud investigation. As Trump explained during the call, evidence proves Trump won Georgia by a massive margin, only to have victory stolen through equally massive fraud. Trump sought to avoid litigation forcing Raffensperger to do his job, which is to make at least a minimal effort to clear away enough fraud to allow Trump his actual and honest victory in Georgia.

First, Trump wasn't the only person on the phone. Also present were Mark Meadows, Mike Pompeo, and multiple attorneys. There isn't the slightest chance that they would have allowed Trump to beg Raffensperger for illegal votes or to threaten him.​

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Second, contrary to what the media implied, Trump was not operating off the premise that he lost Georgia. If that had been the case, it would indeed have been wrong for Trump to beg for Raffensperger to "find" votes for him.​

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Instead, Trump was operating from the assertion that he won Georgia. He opened the call with a strong recitation of the facts showing massive fraud on Raffensperger's watch. According to Trump's evidence, he didn't lose by 11,780 votes; he won by well over 300,000 votes, including votes for Trump that disappeared and illegal votes for Biden. Here are some of Trump's statements in that regard:​

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"I think it's pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia."​

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"We have ... anywhere from 250–300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls."​

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"We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County you'll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures. ..."​

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Trump alluded to the faked water main break that allowed Fulton County election workers to count votes for hours after having sent observers home. He noted that the video of that after-hours voting indicated that at "the minimum it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden."​

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Trump pointed to 4,925 illegal out-of-state voters, 2,326 absentee ballots from vacant addresses, 5,000 dead people voting, and improperly handled drop boxes. And he brought up the allegations that Georgia is shredding evidence as fast as it can.​

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The bottom line, as Trump accurately said, is that these infractions were "many, many times the 11,779 margin [sic] that they said we lost by."​

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Trump hammered over and over that he won the state. No matter how you look at it, he said he won, and he's got the evidence to prove it.​

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At this point, Mark Meadows stated what Trump's team wanted — and it wasn't to fake votes for Trump. It was, instead, an honest investigation: "What I'm hopeful for is there some way that we can ... find some kind of agreement to look at this a little bit more fully." Thus, Meadows sought an agreement "that we can at least have a discussion to look at some of these allegations to find a path forward that's less litigious."​

Raffensperger pushed back, saying he'd already had to deal with lawsuits (ignoring that the courts refused to hear evidence). He also huffed that "we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going through the election issue by issue and then on the state House, the government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going back point by point on all the issues of contention. And then just a few days ago we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time talking about this past election."​

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Did you get that? The biggest election fraud claim in American history, the president on the phone, massive amounts of evidence, and Raffensperger whines that he's already given up six and a half hours of his time to the issue.​

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Trump again chimes in to say, "We won the state." In response to Raffensperger's complaint that he sacrificed six and a half hours to the matter, Trump suggests that Raffensperger does not need to invest massive time in investigating all 300,000-plus problematic votes. He just needs to investigate 11,779 to give Trump his rightful victory. For, as Trump says, "Because, what's the difference between winning the election by two votes and winning it by half a million votes? I think I probably did win it by half a million."​

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When Raffensberger pushes back again, saying his office disproved the cemetery vote contention, Cleta Mitchell, a Trump attorney, makes an important point: Georgia has been withholding records from the White House.​

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One thing to note is that the MSM DON'T have real journalists. They are simply repeaters of the "official narrative" read off the teleprompter.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Georgia has had 3 freakin audits...

Those were NOT open, transparent, independent, bipartisan, audits.

lemme guess. your definition of such an audit is an audit resulting in flipping the state to trump. lol