Judge declines to marry same sex on religious grounds

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Judges are public employees.

What next? They don't like Jews so they refuse to marry a Jew on religious grounds?
Or maybe their Bible tells them they can't be marrying blacks and whites.
Or...maybe they should suck it up, do their job like any of the rest of us who serve the public have to and be thankful others can now enjoy the same benefits of marriage that he can.

Funny thing about "religious" grounds - there isn't a damn thing in the scriptures about same-sex marriage.

Jude 1:7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities, serve as an example of the punishment of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Genesis 19:4Before they could lie down, all the men of Sodom and its outskirts, both young and old, surrounded the house. 5They called out to Lot and asked, “Where are the men who came to visit you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sex wit them!”

Genesis 19:23The sun had risen over the land about the time Lot reached Zoar. 24Then the LORD rained sulfur and fire out of the sky from the LORD on Sodom and Gomorrah, 25overthrowing those cities, all of the plain, and everyone who lived in the cities. He also destroyed the plants that grew out of the ground. 26But Lot’s wife looked back as she lingered behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.


Do you really believe that punishment for this country wont be forthcoming?

Of course not- because Paul tells us that authorities are annointed by God

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

1.The powers that be are ordained of God. The order of magistracy is of God; it is of his ordination and appointment, and of his ordering, disposing, and fixing in its proper bounds and limits. The several forms of government are of human will and pleasure; but government itself is an order of God. There may be men in power who assume it of themselves, and are of themselves, and not of God; and others that abuse the power that is lodged in them; who, though they are by divine permission, yet not of God's approbation and good will. And it is observable, that the apostle speaks of powers, and not persons, at least, not of persons, but under the name of powers, to show that he means not this, or the other particular prince or magistrate, but the thing itself, the office and dignity of magistracy itself; for there may be some persons, who may of themselves usurp this office, or exercise it in a very illegal way, who are not of God, nor to be subject to by men. The apostle here both uses the language, and speaks the sentiments of his countrymen the Jews, who are wont to call magistrates, "powers"; hence those sayings were used among them;

2.resisteth the ordinance of God, the will and appointment of God, whose pleasure it is that there should be such an office, and that men should be subject to it. This is not to be understood, as if magistrates were above the laws, and had a lawless power to do as they will without opposition; for they are under the law, and liable to the penalty of it, in case of disobedience, as others; and when they make their own will a law, or exercise a lawless tyrannical power, in defiance of the laws of God, and of the land, to the endangering of the lives, liberties, and properties of subjects, they may be resisted, as Saul was by the people of Israel, when he would have took away the life of Jonathan for the breach of an arbitrary law of his own, and that too without the knowledge of it, 1 Samuel 14:45; but the apostle is speaking of resisting magistrates in the right discharge of their office, and in the exercise of legal power and authority:

3.The Jews have a saying, "that a governor that injects more fear into the people, than is for the honour of God, shall be punished, and shall not see his son a disciple of a wise man.'' But to the evil; to wicked men, who make no conscience of doing hurt to their fellow creatures, by abusing their persons, defrauding them of their substance, and by various illicit methods doing damage to them; to such, rulers are, and ought to be terrors; such are to be menaced, and threatened with inflicting upon them the penalty of the laws they break; and which ought to be inflicted on them by way of punishment to them, and for the terror of others. R. Chanina, the Sagan of the priests, used to say, "pray for the peace of the kingdom, for if there was no "fear", (i.e. a magistrate to inject fear,) one man would devour another alive.'' Wilt thou not then be afraid of the power? of the civil magistrate, in power and authority, to oppose him, to refuse subjection to him, to break the laws, which, according to his office, he is to put in execution. Do that which is good: in a civil sense, between man and man, by complying with the laws of the land, which are not contrary to the laws of God.

We are not to blindly submit to man's laws, if they go against the laws of God.

To whacky for me You are ignored now

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

Judges are public employees.

What next? They don't like Jews so they refuse to marry a Jew on religious grounds?
Or maybe their Bible tells them they can't be marrying blacks and whites.
Or...maybe they should suck it up, do their job like any of the rest of us who serve the public have to and be thankful others can now enjoy the same benefits of marriage that he can.

Funny thing about "religious" grounds - there isn't a damn thing in the scriptures about same-sex marriage.

Jude 1:7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities, serve as an example of the punishment of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Genesis 19:4Before they could lie down, all the men of Sodom and its outskirts, both young and old, surrounded the house. 5They called out to Lot and asked, “Where are the men who came to visit you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sex wit them!”

Genesis 19:23The sun had risen over the land about the time Lot reached Zoar. 24Then the LORD rained sulfur and fire out of the sky from the LORD on Sodom and Gomorrah, 25overthrowing those cities, all of the plain, and everyone who lived in the cities. He also destroyed the plants that grew out of the ground. 26But Lot’s wife looked back as she lingered behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.


Do you really believe that punishment for this country wont be forthcoming?

Of course not- because Paul tells us that authorities are annointed by God

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

We are not to blindly submit to man's laws, if they go against the laws of God.

But Paul was very, very clear- man's laws are God's laws.

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
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I do respect authority, my spiritual authority, of which Paul was speaking, the authority of the leaders of the church.

In your wording, you say that Hitler was ordained by God to be the leader of Germany, and all that opposed him, as a German citizen, was breaking God's law. Do you really believe that?

 

[Syriusly]

Judges are public employees.

What next? They don't like Jews so they refuse to marry a Jew on religious grounds?
Or maybe their Bible tells them they can't be marrying blacks and whites.
Or...maybe they should suck it up, do their job like any of the rest of us who serve the public have to and be thankful others can now enjoy the same benefits of marriage that he can.

Funny thing about "religious" grounds - there isn't a damn thing in the scriptures about same-sex marriage.

Jude 1:7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities, serve as an example of the punishment of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Genesis 19:4Before they could lie down, all the men of Sodom and its outskirts, both young and old, surrounded the house. 5They called out to Lot and asked, “Where are the men who came to visit you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sex wit them!”

Genesis 19:23The sun had risen over the land about the time Lot reached Zoar. 24Then the LORD rained sulfur and fire out of the sky from the LORD on Sodom and Gomorrah, 25overthrowing those cities, all of the plain, and everyone who lived in the cities. He also destroyed the plants that grew out of the ground. 26But Lot’s wife looked back as she lingered behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.


Do you really believe that punishment for this country wont be forthcoming?

Of course not- because Paul tells us that authorities are annointed by God

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

We are not to blindly submit to man's laws, if they go against the laws of God.

But Paul was very, very clear- man's laws are God's laws.

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
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I do respect authority, my spiritual authority, of which Paul was speaking, the authority of the leaders of the church.

In your wording, you say that Hitler was ordained by God to be the leader of Germany, and all that opposed him, as a German citizen, was breaking God's law. Do you really believe that?

It is not my wording- I am quoting Paul. Please feel free to show me why you think Paul is speaking of the authorities of the church- when he refers to 'rulers'? When he refers to authorities carrying the sword? To punishing wrongdoers? When he refers to paying taxes?

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

 

[UllysesS.Archer]

Jude 1:7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities near them, which like them committed sexual sins and pursued homosexual activities, serve as an example of the punishment of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men

Leviticus 20:13 "'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Genesis 19:4Before they could lie down, all the men of Sodom and its outskirts, both young and old, surrounded the house. 5They called out to Lot and asked, “Where are the men who came to visit you tonight? Bring them out to us so we can have sex wit them!”

Genesis 19:23The sun had risen over the land about the time Lot reached Zoar. 24Then the LORD rained sulfur and fire out of the sky from the LORD on Sodom and Gomorrah, 25overthrowing those cities, all of the plain, and everyone who lived in the cities. He also destroyed the plants that grew out of the ground. 26But Lot’s wife looked back as she lingered behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.


Do you really believe that punishment for this country wont be forthcoming?

Of course not- because Paul tells us that authorities are annointed by God

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

We are not to blindly submit to man's laws, if they go against the laws of God.

But Paul was very, very clear- man's laws are God's laws.

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
.

I do respect authority, my spiritual authority, of which Paul was speaking, the authority of the leaders of the church.

In your wording, you say that Hitler was ordained by God to be the leader of Germany, and all that opposed him, as a German citizen, was breaking God's law. Do you really believe that?

It is not my wording- I am quoting Paul. Please feel free to show me why you think Paul is speaking of the authorities of the church- when he refers to 'rulers'? When he refers to authorities carrying the sword? To punishing wrongdoers? When he refers to paying taxes?

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Matthew 28:18And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Again I ask, and again you wont answer, do you believe that German citizens defying Hitler were disobeying God?

 

[Syriusly]

Of course not- because Paul tells us that authorities are annointed by God

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.

6 Pay your taxes, too, for these same reasons. For government workers need to be paid. They are serving God in what they do.

We are not to blindly submit to man's laws, if they go against the laws of God.

But Paul was very, very clear- man's laws are God's laws.

1 Respect for Authority Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God.

2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.

3 For the authorities do not strike fear in people who are doing right, but in those who are doing wrong. Would you like to live without fear of the authorities? Do what is right, and they will honor you.

4 The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

5 So you must submit to them, not only to avoid punishment, but also to keep a clear conscience.
.

I do respect authority, my spiritual authority, of which Paul was speaking, the authority of the leaders of the church.

In your wording, you say that Hitler was ordained by God to be the leader of Germany, and all that opposed him, as a German citizen, was breaking God's law. Do you really believe that?

It is not my wording- I am quoting Paul. Please feel free to show me why you think Paul is speaking of the authorities of the church- when he refers to 'rulers'? When he refers to authorities carrying the sword? To punishing wrongdoers? When he refers to paying taxes?

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Matthew 28:18And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

Again I ask, and again you wont answer, do you believe that German citizens defying Hitler were disobeying God?

According to Paul, it appears according to Christianity that they were.

Why do you disagree with Romans 13 and word of Paul?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Incorrect. Gays don't stop at marriage, they want the whole package including sucking innocent children into their selfish little world. This is extreme child abuse.

No, THIS is extreme STUPIDITY!! You have no idea what you are talking about. Gay people have had children in their care and have been adopting them for decades. It is not an issue.

Unless you're that kid that has been deliberately deprived of a mother or a father. You don't have to convince me that gay couples have been selfish for decades, considering only what they want, not what a child needs. I already know that.

Where are you getting this crap from? Someone is feeding you a load of horseshit and you're swallowing it whole. The children that gay people are caring for were already deprived of a mother or a father or both for reasons having nothing to do with gay relationships or marriage. How the hell are gays being selfish? They are providing a family for kids and now, thanks to legalized marriage those children can have two legal parents. I guess you can't fix stupid so I'm not even going to try.

Bullshit. They aren't looking for jaded teens and preteens being cycled through the system, they want a baby like everyone else. They want to create a domestic structure that's inferior to what every child needs and deserves and then subject an innocent child to it.

It won't be long before we see these children, realizing how they were fucked, murdering their fag "parents" while they sleep. I already warned Seawytch, hopefully she sleeps with one eye open.

thats a fairly harsh generalization dont you think?
I have no doubt that gay parents will raise their children the same way that straight parents do, I suspect that there will be instances of abuse and incest, however we see that in the straight population too.
My concern is the teasing and torment that the children of gay parents will be handed in school.

Or even worse, pity.

 

[Silhouette]

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Which one of those comes with the promise of eternal soul-death for failing? Like the warning in Jude 1?

Oh, that's right, none of them. Disobeying them would be a mitigatable sin, subject to review by God while disobeying Jude 1 would be the death of your eternal soul forever in no minced terms. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Let's see... Syriusly's 1-7 from Paul where if I disobey I can say a few hail Marys and still walk through the Pearly Gates or ...Jude 1 where if I fail there my soul will be crushed for eternity in the pit of fire..

hmm... this one's a toughy for sure.. If forced to choose between the two...which one would still get me in the Gates of Heaven if I disobeyed..??

BTW Syriusly, the word "Rulers" in your example from Paul in the United States are not 5 people on the US Supreme Court. They are on this question, the 300 million who self govern in the separate states. Your 5 shall bow to them and not the other way around. This game has not been played out and who "the Rulers" are on this question is being challeneged and up for grabs. We'll use Jude 1 and Romans 1 as a guideline for who God would choose between the two options..

 

[Syriusly]

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Which one of those comes with the promise of eternal soul-death for failing? Like the warning in Jude 1?

Oh, that's right, none of them. Disobeying them would be a mitigatable sin, subject to review by God while disobeying Jude 1 would be the death of your eternal soul forever in no minced terms. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Let's see... Syriusly's 1-7 from Paul where if I disobey I can say a few hail Marys and still walk through the Pearly Gates or ...Jude 1 where if I fail there my soul will be crushed for eternity in the pit of fire..

hmm... this one's a toughy for sure.. If forced to choose between the two...which one would still get me in the Gates of Heaven if I disobeyed..??

How can any of God's commandments conflict?

Jude 1 does not say 1 thing about serving cake to homosexuals.

What does Romans 13 say?

1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

Nothing ambiguous about that. Authorities have been instituted by God

Obey the law.

 

[Skylar]

Paul in the New Testament says very clearly:

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Submission to the Authorities
1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,
4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.
5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
7 Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.

Which one of those comes with the promise of eternal soul-death for failing? Like the warning in Jude 1?

Oh, that's right, none of them. Disobeying them would be a mitigatable sin, subject to review by God while disobeying Jude 1 would be the death of your eternal soul forever in no minced terms. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Let's see... Syriusly's 1-7 from Paul where if I disobey I can say a few hail Marys and still walk through the Pearly Gates or ...Jude 1 where if I fail there my soul will be crushed for eternity in the pit of fire..

hmm... this one's a toughy for sure.. If forced to choose between the two...which one would still get me in the Gates of Heaven if I disobeyed..??

How can any of God's commandments conflict?

Jude 1 does not say 1 thing about serving cake to homosexuals.

What does Romans 13 say?

1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

Nothing ambiguous about that. Authorities have been instituted by God

Obey the law.

Well since the law of the land is same sex marriage......I suppose that means its God's will.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

 

[Skylar]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Oh, obviously. You can tell by all the tens of thousands of churches, mosques, temples and synagogues throughout the country.

 

[danielpalos]

I agree to not apply for a sellers permit for marijuana as long as it is a violation of health and safety codes, regardless of our Constitutional amendment; simply for the greater glory of my immortal soul.

 

[bodecea]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

don't you mean poor liberals, so helpless?
isn't that why they all think the government should raise them?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

Their little god always needs money and laws to protect him. Why the fuck should anyone bother to worship that?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

Their little god always needs money and laws to protect him. Why the fuck should anyone bother to worship that?

Glad you think that way. It should also cover things like obamacare, welfare, food stamps free phones, housing, utilities and transportation for those too lazy and poor to get it on their own.
because, I cant see why the fuck anyone should care about those scum either.
We think alike you and I.

 

[bodecea]

Another thing that you keep ignoring is that polygamous and incestuous marriages (especially incestuous) are highly correlated with some form of child abuse! That is not the case with two gay people getting married.

And, let's say they did legalize such unions? How does that effect you?

Incorrect. Gays don't stop at marriage, they want the whole package including sucking innocent children into their selfish little world. This is extreme child abuse.

No, THIS is extreme STUPIDITY!! You have no idea what you are talking about. Gay people have had children in their care and have been adopting them for decades. It is not an issue.

Unless you're that kid that has been deliberately deprived of a mother or a father. You don't have to convince me that gay couples have been selfish for decades, considering only what they want, not what a child needs. I already know that.

Where are you getting this crap from? Someone is feeding you a load of horseshit and you're swallowing it whole. The children that gay people are caring for were already deprived of a mother or a father or both for reasons having nothing to do with gay relationships or marriage. How the hell are gays being selfish? They are providing a family for kids and now, thanks to legalized marriage those children can have two legal parents. I guess you can't fix stupid so I'm not even going to try.

Bullshit. They aren't looking for jaded teens and preteens being cycled through the system, they want a baby like everyone else. They want to create a domestic structure that's inferior to what every child needs and deserves and then subject an innocent child to it.

It won't be long before we see these children, realizing how they were fucked, murdering their fag "parents" while they sleep. I already warned Seawytch, hopefully she sleeps with one eye open.

Fascinating.

 

[bodecea]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

Their little god always needs money and laws to protect him. Why the fuck should anyone bother to worship that?

Glad you think that way. It should also cover things like obamacare, welfare, food stamps free phones, housing, utilities and transportation for those too lazy and poor to get it on their own.
because, I cant see why the fuck anyone should care about those scum either.
We think alike you and I.

RWr are you?

 

[Silhouette]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

Their little god always needs money and laws to protect him. Why the fuck should anyone bother to worship that?

The 1st Amendment already exists. And so does the 9th. That's why this black Christan judge can deny to participate in gay marriage. So far, nobody is suing HIM. Though I assume he performs other marriages..

Hmmm...interesting...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

except the U.S has thrown God out of the land.

Poor god...so helpless.

Their little god always needs money and laws to protect him. Why the fuck should anyone bother to worship that?

Glad you think that way. It should also cover things like obamacare, welfare, food stamps free phones, housing, utilities and transportation for those too lazy and poor to get it on their own.
because, I cant see why the fuck anyone should care about those scum either.
We think alike you and I.

We think nothing alike. I care about the needs of real people while you care about the needs of your imaginary little god...