Judge Bans Use Of “Illegal” and “Aliens”

[sealybobo]

Judge Bans Use Of “Illegal” and “Aliens”
Thu, 11/06/2008 - 17:10 — Judicial Watch Blog
Arizona’s Supreme Court chief justice has agreed to enforce the Hispanic Bar Association’s demands of banning the terms “illegal” and “aliens” in all of the state’s courtrooms.
Claiming that the terms are inflammatory, the president of Arizona’s Hispanic Bar Association, (known as Los Abogados) has asked state Supreme Court Chief Justice Ruth McGregor to stop using them at trials or hearings because they create perceptions of judicial bias.

Judge Bans Use Of ?Illegal? and ?Aliens? | Judicial Watch

What do they suggest we call them?

And do you know that retards thought it was offensive to call them retards so they asked us to start calling them mentally challanged, and then they got offended at that too.

Midgets wanted to be called little people and then they didn't like that term either.

They are illegal immigrants. Fine, stop calling them aliens. But illegal is what they are. Or undocumented workers, which is still illegal.

 

[catzmeow]

The suggestion is that they be referred to as "undocumented."

 

[Tech_Esq]

HAHAHA...

This bunch of patriotic clowns never fails to crack me up...

If acurate terminology was so damn important in the US the "Texan Revolution" would be called the "Texas Landgrab" and "Texas hero" S. Austin would be known as "the lowlife scumbag traitor who spent two decades in Mexico City kissing tons of Mexican asses before stabbing "his new country" in the back" he really was.

Sounds like your side lost. Sorry 'bout that, but Santa Ana gave it his best shot, what are ya gonna do?

We're just decrying the segment of the population that enjoys surrendering this country to anyone who asks. I'm sure if this judge had her way she'd give Arizona back to you. (Come to think of it, I might be willing to give California back to Mexico ) But, CA is probably like DC, they keep trying to give part of DC back to Maryland, but Maryland won't take it back.

 

[sky dancer]

Judge Bans Use Of “Illegal” and “Aliens”
Thu, 11/06/2008 - 17:10 — Judicial Watch Blog
Arizona’s Supreme Court chief justice has agreed to enforce the Hispanic Bar Association’s demands of banning the terms “illegal” and “aliens” in all of the state’s courtrooms.
Claiming that the terms are inflammatory, the president of Arizona’s Hispanic Bar Association, (known as Los Abogados) has asked state Supreme Court Chief Justice Ruth McGregor to stop using them at trials or hearings because they create perceptions of judicial bias.

Judge Bans Use Of ?Illegal? and ?Aliens? | Judicial Watch

This is a positive development for language use in trials and hearings. Now if MSM would pay attention to the Hispanic Journalists request to do the same it would help the immigration debate.

Some friends and I heatedly batted this issue of language use around for six months on a crime forum I belong to.

 

[catzmeow]

This is a positive development for language use in trials and hearings.

Why do you consider this a positive development, precisely?

 

[sky dancer]

For the reason stated in the Arizona court ruling precisely.

 

[catzmeow]

Why don't you enlighten me: Why does forbidding the use of accurate terms represent progress in your world?

 

[sky dancer]

Why don't you read the article? The point is stated quite well in the above link:

"In a strongly worded letter to the chief justice, Los Abogados’ president says attaching an illegal status to a person establishes a brand of contemptibility, creates the appearance of anti-immigrant prejudice and tarnishes the image of courts as a place where disputes may be fairly resolved.

It further points out that no human being is illegal and that a national Hispanic journalism association has roundly criticized the reference for dehumanizing a segment of the population. The letter goes on to criticize the state’s High Court for using the term “illegals” in at least two opinions and the term “illegal aliens” in dozens of others."

 

[catzmeow]

Do you disagree with the idea that these people are here illegally, and are not citizens of the U.S.? Thus, their immigration status is violation of U.S. law, and is illegal.

When you finish banning the words illegal and alien, what words will be next on your list to be stricken from the American vocabulary?

Niggardly, perhaps?

 

[Navy1960]

You know the problem with these message boards...ya can't hear the sarcasm.

Thank you Navy

So I noticed and your most welcome Sheila

 

[sky dancer]

Do you disagree with the idea that these people are here illegally, and are not citizens of the U.S.? Thus, their immigration status is violation of U.S. law, and is illegal.

When you finish banning the words illegal and alien, what words will be next on your list to be stricken from the American vocabulary?

Niggardly, perhaps?

'Illegal' describes a person's action or status. It is an adjective, not a noun.

For the record, I didn't ban a thing. The Arizona Courts decided to ban these terms in court documents.

Are you in favor of using terms to dehumanize and marginalize other human beings? The use of language is political.

Study Nazi propaganda.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Lets follow that logic and see were it takes us: Let's outlaw the word "CANCER". No matter how well intended, pretending that banning words won't make issues or concepts they embody "go away". THAT is a sign of mental illness, not of a respectable and realistic person. You can't outlaw STUPIDITY based on that same rationale because these same jerks wouldn't have a job anymore.

 

[sky dancer]

The analogy you are using would make more sense if you started calling people who have cancer as 'cancers'. We use the term cancer victim, cancer sufferer or cancer survivor. Cancer describes the condition they have not their personhood.

The term illegal is an adjective. The term 'illegals' is a noun. The term 'illegals' is dehumanizing. It also has to do with how the word is used.

Is it used as a slur?

Scottish people objected to the term 'scotch' to describe them as immigrants because of how it was used. It was used as a slur meaning 'cheap' or 'miserly'. They campaigned to be referred to as "Scots" or 'Scottish' instead of scotch.

The term 'wetback' used to be acceptable to describe a immigrant who entered the US illegally. It is not as much in fashion as a slur now.

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

Realy? You are splitting hairs. we could argue that NOBODY choses to get CANCER, either but they CHOOSE to break immigration laws. But WE digress. I think it is a perfectly fitting term and quite fitting. So, what should we call illegal aliens?

 

[Againsheila]

Realy? You are splitting hairs. we could argue that NOBODY choses to get CANCER, either but they CHOOSE to break immigration laws. But WE digress. I think it is a perfectly fitting term and quite fitting. So, what should we call illegal aliens?

How about "criminal invaders"?

 

[sky dancer]

Realy? You are splitting hairs. we could argue that NOBODY choses to get CANCER, either but they CHOOSE to break immigration laws. But WE digress. I think it is a perfectly fitting term and quite fitting. So, what should we call illegal aliens?

Call them undocumented immigrants.

Language is political. The term 'illegals' is dehumanizing. It's easier to hate people if you strip them of their humanity.

The Nazi's used language purposely in their propaganda against the Jews. They turned Jews into 'illegals'.

The term 'invader' is defined as someone who enters a country by force in order to conquer. That describes the status of our soldiers in Iraq.

Whether the term 'criminal invaders' applies in Iraq is another discussion.

 

[Againsheila]

Call them undocumented immigrants.

Language is political. The term 'illegals' is dehumanizing. It's easier to hate people if you strip them of their humanity.

The Nazi's used language purposely in their propaganda against the Jews. They turned Jews into 'illegals'.

The term 'invader' is defined as someone who enters a country by force in order to conquer. That describes the status of our soldiers in Iraq.

Whether the term 'criminal invaders' applies in Iraq is another discussion.

Calling them "immigrants" is an insult to the legal immigrants in this nation. They are not immigrants.

As for being invaders, yes, they come here by force and yes they do want to conquer. Listen to Alberto Lozano, an official of the Mexican government saying that "this has been and will be Mexico again", you don't think that's an invasion?

When those hispanics told my friend he might as well leave as this was their town now, you don't consider that to be taking our town by force?

 

[SW2SILVERQUASI]

This reminds me of Orwell's 1984. "the destruction of words is a beautiful thing". You can't kill off something because you don't like the concept behind it. Get real. These blokes are ILLEGAL and they are ALIENS. To bad that doesn't fit some of you people's popular sense of right and wrong. I live around these people, you should try it. Barrios are nothing more than self-imposed ghettos for Hispanics.

 

[sky dancer]

Calling them "immigrants" is an insult to the legal immigrants in this nation. They are not immigrants.

As for being invaders, yes, they come here by force and yes they do want to conquer. Listen to Alberto Lozano, an official of the Mexican government saying that "this has been and will be Mexico again", you don't think that's an invasion?

When those hispanics told my friend he might as well leave as this was their town now, you don't consider that to be taking our town by force?

Nope. They are immigrants sneaking into the US without documents in order to work.

It's clever to call undocumented immigrants 'invaders' in order to justify hatred and a militant stance toward them.

 

[007]

Nope. They are immigrants sneaking into the US without documents in order to work.

It's clever to call undocumented immigrants 'invaders' in order to justify hatred and a militant stance toward them.

Well, sorry pal, but you're just out to lunch. Some may be here to work, but there's a massive population of ILLEGAL ALIENS here that are nothing more than trash. They're gang bangers, drug pushers, sick people, uneducated, and the list goes on. They entered this country ILLEGALLY, that makes them ILLEGAL. They weren't born here, that makes them an ALIEN. There is NO BETTER OR MORE PRECISE TERM FOR THESE PEOPLE THAN...

..... ILLEGAL ALIEN!

Suck it up and smell the coffee. This can't say this and can't say that game isn't that hard to figure out. You criminal sympathizers want these terms banned in baby step attempts to soften their image, to make people more sympathetic to the fact that their criminals. Just like faggots wanting to be called gay. Like there was something HAPPY about two men fucking each other up the ass when it's sick, disgusting and perverted. So no, we're not going to play your stupid little word game. These people are ILLEGAL ALIENS, and there is NOTHING BETTER or more ACCURATE that you can use to describe them. If they don't like it, THEN THEY CAN GET THEIR ILLEGAL ALIEN ASSES BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM AND ENTER THIS COUNTRY THE LEGAL WAY!!!